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33 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

You are massively underestimating the number of stupid people in America who rationalise everything that Trump ever says or does.

$750 tax bill? That's because he's really smart. 

Grabbing people by the Kitty? Oh just locker room talk. 

Etc, etc, etc.

The democrats need to get black communities out voting to win this election, and the pandemic is not going to be helping that aim at all. 

I don't think so, I agree (and said) that he has a core support that will vote for him come what may but they are not enough to win him the election this time.

Not sure why you think why the pandemic will suppress black voting - it hasn't held back BLM one iota and I would think the recent revelations about Trump's 2016 campaign tactics of voter suppression will provide additional motivation for them to get rid of him.

I do agree that there are a huge number of very stupid (or perhaps very poorly educated would be kinder) people in the US but Trump is nevertheless losing ground in the race and I don't see the pandemic turning it around for him.

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9 hours ago, SHRIMPER said:

I have zero sympathy for trump at all. He has no sympathy for 1000s that have died because he would not mandate masks. His lies and deceit about the virus have caught up with him. I will not be a hypocrite and wish him well.. because I do not.

An increasing number of US Citizens are with you there Shrimper. What would normally be a "rally around the President / Flag" moment is being met with utter indifference to the fate of Donald. 

The only thing that is clear at this moment is the White House brought this on themselves, has acted with indifference to the safety of the people who work for it or with it, and failed in even the most basic courtesy of informing potential contacts they could have been exposed to infection.

The public relations hole they have dug is getting deeper by the hour. Trump's doctor just reported he is 72 hours into his diagnosis - which implies he tested positive Wednesday i.e. immediately after the debate, after which he went to a fund raiser on Thursday - and he was given a cocktail of antibodies 42 hours ago, not yesterday i.e. before the tweet announcing Trump was infected.

Just now Chief of Staff Meadows just effectively contradicted the doctor's summary that overall the President was doing fine, by suggesting "the next 48 hours will be critical"

We also heard that former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has now tested positive - he was not warned either - as has campaign manager Bill Stepian and also Senator Ron Johnson. Two other Senators were at the White House event last weekend, one refuses to get tested despite being 87. We only heard about Hope Hicks because on e of her friends said she complained of having flu like symptoms, we only heard that Kellyanne Conway tested positive because her daughter busted her. Now Attorney General Barr who is seen standing next to and talking to Kellanne has said he does not intend to quarantine, directly ignoring CDC guidance. 

So we are left with the conclusions a) we can't trust any medical information coming out of the White House as what is coming out is contradictory, b) the President probably knew he was infected before at least one of two post-debate public events he attended, c) the President may also have been infected before the presidential debate, d) the WH seems intent on covering up who is infected including the possibility they knew Trump was infected but hoped he would be asymptomatic so they wouldn't have to admit it e) nobody is communicating with senior Democratic Party leaders about what is happening - specifically no communication to Joe Biden or to Nancy Pelosi.

It paints a shocking (but not unexpected) pattern of incompetence and malice from all involved. 

So no wonder there is no groundswell of good will toward Donald and Melania. Not sure many WANT them to die, but there is certainly massive indifference to their fate given their actions. 

 

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In this picture - Front row foreground - so this could get a whole lot worse very quickly.... 

Vice President Pence, 2nd Lady Karen Pence, Attorney General Bill Barr, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, White House Lawyer Pat Cipollone. 

 

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Now this "clarification" from the President's White House Doctor. 

It has misspellings of the treatment, corrects two timeframes, one of which was not his and is not signed - he has always signed anything released before. So is this actually from him?

 

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4 minutes ago, Herman said:

They just can't stop telling porkies.

It is quite a remarkable feature of Trump's reign that he has been able to corrupt so many professionals into serving the needs of political expediency over their commitment to the principles of their vocation.  I have taught medical professionals in this area and was quite astonished and embarrassed by the scene played out in front of the hospital. They came across as spin doctors rather than medical doctors, and I'm sure their fellow professionals will appalled at that performance. 

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On 02/10/2020 at 22:44, Herman said:

The first time I've felt sympathy for him.

It didn't last.

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This is a former congressional candidate with 400000. I'm not going to post the link and Gove her anymore traffic. If you need cheering up/terrifying tho some of the comments really are off the wall. It's all a democratic conspiracy you know. Theyll  do anything to fix the election...

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Lady Shrimp was saying last night about how many conspiracy would be out before the weekend was over. Have no idea, but would think very many.

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Just let this sink in for a moment. The president of the USA has not only presided over the worst mortality record of any world leader in responding to Covid-19, but has also turned that country's HQ into an epicentre for (super) spreading the virus. The utter irresponsibility of this is staggering. The White House should have been the strongest bastion against Corvid-19, protecting those individuals essential to running the most influential country in the world. Instead, Trump and his sycophants have flouted all the scientific advice, and engaged in practices with a very obvious (and oft predicted) outcome, throwing the US political system into chaos. It was not some unfortunate accident that brought Covid-19 into the White House, but naked arrogant stupidity. In a morally ordered universe these facts alone should be enough to impeach the president and rid America of this 4 year pestilence.

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Only a few weeks to election day and Trump is trailing Biden.  Are they desperate enough to stage this to try for sympathy votes?  Yes they are, but they probably haven't.  He has most likely tested positive and they're milking it.  Or am I being naive?

It's yet to be established whether he was awaiting results or knew he was positive when he went to a rally in Minneapolis a few days ago.  Faint echoes of Watergate - "What did the President know, and when did he know it?"

 

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They have repeatedly shown us who they are. They are not gong to change, and most voters see right through the spin machine. 

He's sick (in more ways than one) and they can't tell us otherwise. And they brought this on themselves, so no "heroic" recovery. 

Latest WSJ / NBC poll has Biden increasing his lead post-debate to 14%. No Trump sympathy bounce overcomes that. 

Plus Biden may have broken the back of Trump's support - men over 50 swung from +13 Trump to +1 Biden. 

This election is done, it's now about the Senate majority, Supreme Court vote v Covid, and voter suppression activities   

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They're capable of anything. 

Wouldn't surprise me if he was responsible for Covid in some elaborate ploy to mess up China. And it completely backfired

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Not one for conspiracies but I have heard that it was started by Princess Diana's chauffeur on a grassy knoll with a vial of Pangolin sweat.

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There is so much crap to wade through that you sometimes forget things that they got up. Like hawking a miracle covid cure....

 

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I am sure the staff at Walter Reed, which is a forces' hospital, appreciate the irony of giving priority treatment to someone who dodged the draft with 'bone spurs'...

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1 hour ago, Herman said:

A drive-by infecting is a new one for America. 

A sign of weakness by Trump.

Putin would've ridden bare chested on a horse whilst biting the head off a live tarantula, dismounted, puched the horse unconcious and the sprinted off to the Kremlin.

 

 

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Outside danger, inside safe.

The Optics of Stilettos. Are heels appropriate #HurricaneHarvey… | by  Georgi Boorman | Iron Ladies | Medium

Inside danger, outside safe.

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Trump has made Bush's worst moment look like the act of a 'Jeeenuis'.

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2 hours ago, Herman said:

A drive-by infecting is a new one for America. 

It is astonishly irresponsible behaviour but it seems on this occasion he has been outdone by our very own Home Office https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/02/home-office-moved-covid-affected-asylum-seekers-against-orders

What's one (soon to be replaced) President doing a short spin round the hospital compared to driving dozens of people (some confirmed Covid and all supposed to self-isolating) 120 miles - good to know that we can still beat the Yanks at some things 😀 

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On 04/10/2020 at 11:41, horsefly said:

Just let this sink in for a moment. The president of the USA has not only presided over the worst mortality record of any world leader in responding to Covid-19, but has also turned that country's HQ into an epicentre for (super) spreading the virus. The utter irresponsibility of this is staggering. The White House should have been the strongest bastion against Corvid-19, protecting those individuals essential to running the most influential country in the world. Instead, Trump and his sycophants have flouted all the scientific advice, and engaged in practices with a very obvious (and oft predicted) outcome, throwing the US political system into chaos. It was not some unfortunate accident that brought Covid-19 into the White House, but naked arrogant stupidity. In a morally ordered universe these facts alone should be enough to impeach the president and rid America of this 4 year pestilence.

There's no need to crow about it.

 

Sorry,  but I couldn't resist.

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4 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

There's no need to crow about it.

 

Sorry,  but I couldn't resist.

Love your attention to detail and quick wit (And me being a bird watcher too)

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THE TRADITIONAL DUNCE CAP IS NOW ONLY FOR USE BY KKK MEMBERS WHO ARE WARNED TO SEEK HELP FROM THEIR MOMMY WHEN CUTTING EYE-HOLES AS THIS TASK WILL OVEREACH THEIR INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY

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31 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

Yeah, she got it. Stupid person.

From her super spreader moronic boss.

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Probably 😞

Here's a similar quote from Kelly Anne Conway.  "It is being contained, do you not think it's being contained" 

https://www.c-span.org/video/?470121-1/kellyanne-conway-coronavirus-contained

You can add two of Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany's assistants to the infected list too.

And two White House housekeepers 

And Pastor Greg Laurie from Riverside, California. 

 

We haven't heard anything about a negative test result for Ivanka Trump... or Jarred. Or Rudy Guliani. 

The worry for the country is Vice President Pence. As next in line for the Presidency, why is he not in DC? Will he test positive too in the next few days? He was at both the Rose Garden event and the Prayer March at the Mall event that Paster Laurie attended too. 

 

Lincoln Project (Republicans against Trump) hammering on this subject - the following ad suggests Trump tested positive on Wed the day after the debate. It's the first time I have heard that stated. Do they know a fact we don't yet?

 

 

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