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The President will continue to spew out authoritarian rhetoric (fascist or communist feel free to pick your label) over the weeks before (and for sure after) the election.

But everyone should stay focused. If votes follow polls he will lose. 

This democracy can thrive again IF Joe Biden is elected AND Republicans lose control of the Senate, but if he loses it's all over. If Republicans retain control of the Senate it's almost as bad, but it's not existential. That's a concern - voters like seperated powers. 

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On 20/09/2020 at 17:29, Surfer said:

The President will continue to spew out authoritarian rhetoric (fascist or communist feel free to pick your label) over the weeks before (and for sure after) the election.

But everyone should stay focused. If votes follow polls he will lose. 

This democracy can thrive again IF Joe Biden is elected AND Republicans lose control of the Senate, but if he loses it's all over. If Republicans retain control of the Senate it's almost as bad, but it's not existential. That's a concern - voters like seperated powers. 

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But there may well be a 6-3 rightwing majority on the Supreme Court, and it is very easy to make a list of what they will gun for, such as Roe vs Wade and Obamacare.

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44 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

But there may well be a 6-3 rightwing majority on the Supreme Court, and it is very easy to make a list of what they will gun for, such as Roe vs Wade and Obamacare.

And now with Romney caving in that looks certain. Ginsburg should have retired when Obama asked her to.

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45 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

But there may well be a 6-3 rightwing majority on the Supreme Court, and it is very easy to make a list of what they will gun for, such as Roe vs Wade and Obamacare.

Roe v Wade would be a target for definite and that is why he pick a Catholic.

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If Biden wins the Presidency, and Republicans lose control of the Senate the Supreme Court can be expanded and that outcome avoided.

if either one of those don‚Äôt happen the the US is committing itself to a 1960‚Äôs style Peru. I.e. everyone except the¬†rich +¬†white +¬†‚ÄúChristian‚ÄĚ can GFY....unfortunate that also implies the GFU is not just limited to the US, climate change and existing NATO will condemn everyone else to the same fate eventually.¬†

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2 hours ago, Surfer said:

If Biden wins the Presidency, and Republicans lose control of the Senate the Supreme Court can be expanded and that outcome avoided.

if either one of those don‚Äôt happen the the US is committing itself to a 1960‚Äôs style Peru. I.e. everyone except the¬†rich +¬†white +¬†‚ÄúChristian‚ÄĚ can GFY....unfortunate that also implies the GFU is not just limited to the US, climate change and existing NATO will condemn everyone else to the same fate eventually.¬†

The trouble with that solution is that the next time there is a Republican president with a Republican senate they can expand it back to a clear rightwing majority.

But the real problem is that justice - and not just the supreme court - in the US has become politicised. That has been the case for decades but is more extreme now, not least because of the lurch to the far-right of the Republican party, if that is what one should still call it.

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Both of the things you say are true Purple, but if you have to fight a war you have to fight it now,. The mission is to save democracy, and if a SC dismantles not just one but multiple policies a majority of the country supports, the SC needs to be amended. We have a constitution of three equal branches of federal government, not a Congressional dictatorship, nor a Presidential dictatorship nor a Judicial dictatorship. 
 

The goal has to be restoring balance within the system, it’s being exploited to lock in one party control at every level of government, and the other party can’t just sit around and complain about bad faith. That is how 1930’s Germany got Hitler - as we have discussed before. 
 

Republicans are already publicly stating that they want the courts to declare postal votes to be invalid if not counted by the end of Election Day. Or failing that measurement postal votes must be invalidated if not delivered by the Post Office by Election Day - One reason why the USPS is being sabotaged - or failing that States can declare their local election results to be corrupted so they can send State legislator appointed voters to the Electoral College. 
 

The country’s entire I nfrastructure so clearly needs an overhaul, and it can only start with a clear Joe Biden victory and Democratic Party taking over the Senate. Then incompetence, corruption and collusion can be rooted out and a proper set of checks and balances put back in place. 
 

So think of us, pray for us, whatever you feel is appropriate.... dark days are ahead but we still hope for dawn. 

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But his most outrageous attack was on Democratic congresswomen of colour Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, singling out the former by saying: ‚ÄúShe‚Äôs telling us how to run our country. How did they do where you came from?‚ÄĚ

This evil wnaker is just playing to the racist audiences. He is no different to any other racist.

And now he has the gall to go to Ginsbergs memorial even though he knows he is dishonouring her by announcing a shoed in nomination at the weekend.

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Also dishonoring her by saying she didn't ask for her seat not to fulfilled until after the next president is elected - that somehow Nancy Pelosi got her family to say that.... then attacking the Democratic opposition to an appointment of "bias against Catholics" because his leading choice is an ardent anti-abortion Catholic. Which is quite a feat when Nancy Pelosi is - Catholic, and Joe Biden is  - Catholic, and Kamila Harris's husband is - Catholic. Trump chosen one is not being chosen because she is Catholic, she is being chosen because she is a RWNJ and anti-abortion. 

None of this is a surprise, the only regret is the Republican Party are all in for this vile person and apparently will do anything to cheat and steal and maintain power. And not maintain power to do anything remotely useful, like grow the nation's wealth, upgrade the obsolete infrastructure, build a universal telemedicine based replacement for broken healthcare , just power for power's sake. 

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16 hours ago, Surfer said:

Also dishonoring her by saying she didn't ask for her seat not to fulfilled until after the next president is elected - that somehow Nancy Pelosi got her family to say that.... then attacking the Democratic opposition to an appointment of "bias against Catholics" because his leading choice is an ardent anti-abortion Catholic. Which is quite a feat when Nancy Pelosi is - Catholic, and Joe Biden is  - Catholic, and Kamila Harris's husband is - Catholic. Trump chosen one is not being chosen because she is Catholic, she is being chosen because she is a RWNJ and anti-abortion. 

None of this is a surprise, the only regret is the Republican Party are all in for this vile person and apparently will do anything to cheat and steal and maintain power. And not maintain power to do anything remotely useful, like grow the nation's wealth, upgrade the obsolete infrastructure, build a universal telemedicine based replacement for broken healthcare , just power for power's sake. 

The senate are worried alright. They see their futures restricted by this idiot but they also see his re-election providing at least another four years of their dominance.

Its six or two threes for them at the moment.

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Probably why his goons tear gas protestors so the news media can't show what people really think of him. He so obviously hated it when it happed at baseball before. Apparently a huge row erupted when he got back to the White House...public ridicule (especially coming from women) is kryptonite to a wannabe strongman.

BTW - the latest Quinnipiac poll has him still down by 10% ...... with the following qualifiers. 

"Ninety-four percent of likely voters who selected a candidate for president say their minds are made up, while 5 percent say they might change their minds"

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us09232020_ufth12.pdf

 

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1 hour ago, Surfer said:

Probably why his goons tear gas protestors so the news media can't show what people really think of him. He so obviously hated it when it happed at baseball before. Apparently a huge row erupted when he got back to the White House...public ridicule (especially coming from women) is kryptonite to a wannabe strongman.

BTW - the latest Quinnipiac poll has him still down by 10% ...... with the following qualifiers. 

"Ninety-four percent of likely voters who selected a candidate for president say their minds are made up, while 5 percent say they might change their minds"

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us09232020_ufth12.pdf

 

What shocked Trump the most was that he could hear booing coming from inside the casket.

 

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blob:https://www.nbcnews.com/e92b6e26-2b63-45f1-a2f7-ceec193f18d9

This while "honouring the Bay of Pigs" illegal invasion of Cuba.

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I'm looking forward to the live debates -- Will they happen? Will the Demonprats utilise a stand in? Will Sleepy all of a sudden contract Covid?

To be continued....¬†¬†ūüôÉ

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38 minutes ago, Jools said:

I'm looking forward to the live debates -- Will they happen? Will the Demonprats utilise a stand in? Will Sleepy all of a sudden contract Covid?

To be continued....¬†¬†ūüôÉ

Shame for Trump that his voters will need subtitles.

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RWNJ's are getting increasingly desperate now.. the clock is ticking down to Election Day - the polls all tell the same story. The latest one from Fox News (RWNJ propaganda channel for sure, but it's polls are very good) 

In each of the three states, majorities disapprove of the job Trump is doing as president, pluralities say coronavirus is ‚Äúnot at all‚ÄĚ under control, and Biden is the preferred choice when it comes to handling the virus. Plus, he‚Äôs favored over Trump to nominate the next U.S. Supreme Court justice.¬†¬†There are few undecided voters, and Biden‚Äôs support is 50 percent or better in each state.¬†¬†

https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-tight-race-in-ohio-biden-tops-trump-in-nevada-and-pennsylvania

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On 23/09/2020 at 14:52, Surfer said:

Both of the things you say are true Purple, but if you have to fight a war you have to fight it now,. The mission is to save democracy, and if a SC dismantles not just one but multiple policies a majority of the country supports, the SC needs to be amended. We have a constitution of three equal branches of federal government, not a Congressional dictatorship, nor a Presidential dictatorship nor a Judicial dictatorship. 
 

The goal has to be restoring balance within the system, it’s being exploited to lock in one party control at every level of government, and the other party can’t just sit around and complain about bad faith. That is how 1930’s Germany got Hitler - as we have discussed before. 
 

Republicans are already publicly stating that they want the courts to declare postal votes to be invalid if not counted by the end of Election Day. Or failing that measurement postal votes must be invalidated if not delivered by the Post Office by Election Day - One reason why the USPS is being sabotaged - or failing that States can declare their local election results to be corrupted so they can send State legislator appointed voters to the Electoral College. 
 

The country’s entire I nfrastructure so clearly needs an overhaul, and it can only start with a clear Joe Biden victory and Democratic Party taking over the Senate. Then incompetence, corruption and collusion can be rooted out and a proper set of checks and balances put back in place. 
 

So think of us, pray for us, whatever you feel is appropriate.... dark days are ahead but we still hope for dawn. 

That's not balance, lol.

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1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

And Biden voters will need Prozac

You still don't get it do you. It doesn't matter who the Democrat candidate is. As long as the lying, racist, homophobic mysoginist is ousted is all that matters.

Boris will be next. The world has faced a crisis and two most powerful men in the world are responsible for too many deaths because of the fcukin arrogance and people like you who put them in power.

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Eric is trying SOOO hard to earn Daddy's approval . ... is this guy permanently stoned? It's pretty obvious the knowledge they are going to lose big time is getting to them ... and the suggesting he's making is pretty fascist... an out and out call to all those self appointed "militia" to "oversee" the election.... 

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1309558435818737664

Meanwhile his girlfriend and campaign consultant is robocalling to encourage Republican voters to use the very same mail in ballots Eric is complaining about.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/fact-check-rnc-robocalls-misinformation/index.html

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19 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Shame for Trump that his voters will need subtitles.

I've heard that normal subtitles will be too difficult for them, so they have hired the guys from Sesame Street to explain them

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10 minutes ago, Surfer said:

Eric is trying SOOO hard to earn Daddy's approval . ... is this guy permanently stoned? It's pretty obvious the knowledge they are going to lose big time is getting to them ... and the suggesting he's making is pretty fascist... an out and out call to all those self appointed "militia" to "oversee" the election.... 

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1309558435818737664

 

I reckon he has had about a kilo of Columbian Marching Powder in the hours before he made that clip.

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7 minutes ago, SHRIMPER said:

I reckon he has had about a kilo of Columbian Marching Powder in the hours before he made that clip.

Well it won't be Cuban cigars anymore. Thats the way to handle the commie pinko bastrads

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Trump's 12 Step Program for Making Russia Great Again"


1. Alienate the US from its allies

2. Weaken NATO

3. Weaken the EU by praising Brexit

4. Don't remind anyone of MH-13 shoot down

5. Call for Russia to be returned to G-7

6. Make Kim Jong un a respected leader

7. No criticism of Putin

8. No criticism of Russia in Eastern Ukraine

9. Discredit Russian election meddling

10. Trade wars between US, China and EU

11. Try to weaken Russia sanctions

12. Get US recognition for Crimea annexation

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21 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Trump's 12 Step Program for Making Russia Great Again"


1. Alienate the US from its allies

2. Weaken NATO

3. Weaken the EU by praising Brexit

4. Don't remind anyone of MH-13 shoot down

5. Call for Russia to be returned to G-7

6. Make Kim Jong un a respected leader

7. No criticism of Putin

8. No criticism of Russia in Eastern Ukraine

9. Discredit Russian election meddling

10. Trade wars between US, China and EU

11. Try to weaken Russia sanctions

12. Get US recognition for Crimea annexation

I don't think Trump has got round to number 12 yet has he, or did I miss something?

Still 11 out of 12 is pretty good going, and certainly well ahead of his zero delivery of his 2016 election campaign promises - I wonder if he's got time to at least finish off that wall before he gets booted out. ūüėāūüėā

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