The Never-President Trump

[king canary 7,558]

On 10/10/2019 at 00:34, Surfer said:

Latest Fox News Poll : Fox is the President's and Republican Party's biggest supporter - 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment

 

Worth noting that while Fox are awful, they do proper polling. So this isn't a survey of Fox viewers, just a poll commissioned by them.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

The Kurds were not at Normandy so they are of no importance.

Diplomacy at its most radical. Taking his thread then, they only came in because of Pearl Harbour which is in Hawaii so where are they on the ladder of impotence, let alone importance.

[Surfer 1,547]

The former US Ambassador to Ukraine is testifying to Congress today: the administration's efforts to prevent testimony is failing.

" Yovanovitch appeared before Congress on Friday under a subpoena from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, after the White House tried to block her from coming voluntarily" 

Said said in part - 

"We also believe that... our gov't will have our backs and protect us if we come under attack from foreign interests. That basic understanding no longer holds true. Today, we see the State Dep't attacked and hollowed out from within."

[Surfer 1,547]

The current US Ambassador to the European Union, who is at the center of the Ukraine investigations and who was blocked from testifying to Congress by the administration earlier this week, has now agreed to testify to Congress next week according to his lawyers.

“Notwithstanding the State Department’s current direction to not testify, Ambassador Sondland will honor the Committees’ subpoena, and he looks forward to testifying on Thursday,” 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/e-u-ambassador-sondland-testify-impeachment-inquiry-defying-state-department-n1064966 

Edited October 11, 2019 by Surfer

[Surfer 1,547]

Latest news:

Like climate change events, this just a coincidence, or is there an underlying pattern we can detect? 

Yesterday US Attorney General, William Barr, had dinner with Rupert Murdoch.

Today : Shepard Smith leaves Fox News channel 

https://apnews.com/6b9f26f305ba4846b35bd8aa165d9959?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

[Herman 9,691]

Rupert Murdoch, a toxin poisoning the Anglosphere for decades.

[Surfer 1,547]

Fox daytime staff reaction sounds more like Shep Smith had suddenly died. 

But back to the agenda, top news story is stocks, not Turkey or Impeachment. 

 

[Surfer 1,547]

This is Fox Business network later on the same day - the protesters are outside a Donald Trump rally in Minnesota. 

Click the Play button on the attached - does the accusation of civil breakdown and risk of civil war sound familiar? 

 

[Herman 9,691]

...and ISIS is back in the game. Well done Trump. Well done Trumpsters.😐

[Herman 9,691]

Well, it looks like the mods finally had enough of the other one. 🤣😳🇪🇺🇪🇺

[Van wink 2,994]

4 minutes ago, Herman said:

Well, it looks like the mods finally had enough of the other one. 🤣😳🇪🇺🇪🇺

They know it’s over...deal done 😀 

At the very least there should have been a non binding vote!

Edited October 12, 2019 by Van wink

[Herman 9,691]

Relieved I won't ever have to talk with you again. Some small mercies.😀

[Van wink 2,994]

13 minutes ago, Herman said:

Relieved I won't ever have to talk with you again. Some small mercies.😀

Well for my part its been a pleasure (cant speak for anyone else though) 😊

Edited October 12, 2019 by Van wink

[Surfer 1,547]

On 11/10/2019 at 01:35, king canary said:

Worth noting that while Fox are awful, they do proper polling. So this isn't a survey of Fox viewers, just a poll commissioned by them.

Ah. Now the Murdoch owned New York Post turns on the Murdoch owned Fox News poll. 

https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-news-pollster-braun-research-misrepresented-impeachment-poll-analysis/amp/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons&__twitter_impression=true

[Rock The Boat 1,322]

On 09/02/2019 at 10:37, Herman said:

 

So let's see the EU step up to the plate and move their troops in to protect the Kurds. Of course they won't because they are full of p iss and wind and expect the US to take care of everything. 

[Rock The Boat 1,322]

On 12/10/2019 at 08:02, Surfer said:

This is Fox Business network later on the same day - the protesters are outside a Donald Trump rally in Minnesota. 

Click the Play button on the attached - does the accusation of civil breakdown and risk of civil war sound familiar? 

 

What's familiar is the sight and sound of the fascist Antifa attacking people as they leave the conveñtion. The left always resort to violence to get what they want. 

[Surfer 1,547]

6 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

So let's see the EU step up to the plate and move their troops in to protect the Kurds. Of course they won't because they are full of p iss and wind and expect the US to take care of everything. 

The US were there. They have been told to stand down, not fly air cover, and now pull the 1,000 troops out. Oh and now sending 1,800 to Saudi Arabia. This is nothing to do with the EU and you know it, it’s about US deliberately stabbing the Kurds in the back after they fought ISIS for us. The Kurds have been betrayed before and now have allied with Assad and de facto with Russia. Maybe that’s the outcome the President wanted, although he now says he didn’t, but we know he has a serial history of lying every day, and ISIS that he claimed he had defeated, is back.

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by Surfer

[Herman 9,691]

6 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

So let's see the EU step up to the plate and move their troops in to protect the Kurds. Of course they won't because they are full of p iss and wind and expect the US to take care of everything. 

But, but, what about..... **** off. This is entirely on Trump, his corruption and the people that have enabled his corruption. Own it. 

[Jools 584]

4 hours ago, Herman said:

But, but, what about..... **** off. This is entirely on Trump, his corruption and the people that have enabled his corruption. Own it. 

The usual knee-jerk response by Hermione on a subject of which he obviously knows little to f*ck all about (conical hat emoticon)

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

The usual knee-jerk response by Hermione on a subject of which he obviously knows little to f*ck all about (conical hat emoticon)

That is still far more than Trump. Yes, you are a Tory boy but surely you cannot believe that Trump is anything other than an egotistical, lying, selfish schmoe. And if you have to look that up then you ain't worthy.

[Herman 9,691]

It's not really knee jerk is it. It's quite clear what chain of events the fat oaf started. Jools will never accept any responsibility. 

[Surfer 1,547]

Meanwhile, the former administration Russia policy advisor Fiona Hill is testifying in closed sessions in Congress today. 

Like others before her, the White House has been trying to block testimony. 

Fiona Hill was subpoenaed, per official working on impeachment inquiry, because of “attempts by the White House and the Administration to direct witnesses not to cooperate with the House’s impeachment inquiry and efforts by the White House to limit any testimony that does occur.”

 

And - 

Republican congressman Matt Gaetz, one of the most aggressive supporters of the President, has been prevented from attending that meeting as he is not a member of any of the relevant committees -  just one more small sign that the rules of law and procedure are starting to exert themselves, albeit very slowly and very late. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/gop-rep-matt-gaetz-ejected-from-secret-impeachment-meeting

" .... my constituents want me actively involved in stopping the #KangarooCourtCoup run by Shifty Schiff ."

[Rock The Boat 1,322]

On 14/10/2019 at 06:34, Surfer said:

The US were there. They have been told to stand down, not fly air cover, and now pull the 1,000 troops out. Oh and now sending 1,800 to Saudi Arabia. This is nothing to do with the EU and you know it, it’s about US deliberately stabbing the Kurds in the back after they fought ISIS for us. The Kurds have been betrayed before and now have allied with Assad and de facto with Russia. Maybe that’s the outcome the President wanted, although he now says he didn’t, but we know he has a serial history of lying every day, and ISIS that he claimed he had defeated, is back.

 

But you people yell when the US gets involved with other countries and now you cry because the US walks away. So where is the EU. Why do they not step up to the plate and take over the role if the Americans wish to withdraw. Where's the EU leadership? Why aren't the Europeans putting together a multi-national military task force to support the Kurds instead of all this hand-wringing.

Because the EU are a bunch of pathetic wimps who can't do a thing unless the yanks or the Brits are involved.

[Rock The Boat 1,322]

18 hours ago, Surfer said:

Meanwhile, the former administration Russia policy advisor Fiona Hill is testifying in closed sessions in Congress today. 

Like others before her, the White House has been trying to block testimony. 

Fiona Hill was subpoenaed, per official working on impeachment inquiry, because of “attempts by the White House and the Administration to direct witnesses not to cooperate with the House’s impeachment inquiry and efforts by the White House to limit any testimony that does occur.”

 

And - 

Republican congressman Matt Gaetz, one of the most aggressive supporters of the President, has been prevented from attending that meeting as he is not a member of any of the relevant committees -  just one more small sign that the rules of law and procedure are starting to exert themselves, albeit very slowly and very late. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/gop-rep-matt-gaetz-ejected-from-secret-impeachment-meeting

" .... my constituents want me actively involved in stopping the #KangarooCourtCoup run by Shifty Schiff ."

We are all waiting for them to subpoena Hunter Biden. When will the real crooks get investigated?

[king canary 7,558]

1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

But you people yell when the US gets involved with other countries and now you cry because the US walks away.

It's almost as if different situations require different responses....

[Rock The Boat 1,322]

4 minutes ago, king canary said:

It's almost as if different situations require different responses....

So what is the EU response?

[Herman 9,691]

Instead of trying to distract attention away, you could just admit that Drumpf really dropped a ****. We wouldn't think any less of you. 

[Surfer 1,547]

“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” ~John Bolton. " means we can add John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney to the list of Cabinet level staff as witnesses in the Ukraine "give us political dirt on Biden or we'll withhold military aid" scandal. So plenty of important and relevant people to get before we need to worry about Republicans creating a prime time television tantrum over Hunter Biden... 

[Surfer 1,547]

Reuters now reporting on this Rudy Giuliani claim about who was paying him re Ukrainian work, as the US Government was not paying him and he says the President was not either. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-giuliani-excl/exclusive-trump-lawyer-giuliani-was-paid-500000-to-consult-on-indicted-associates-firm-idUSKBN1WU07Z

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Anyone who can remember Watergate and the lengths that had to be taken before Nixon finally gave in, will know that Trump will get away with this. And all the good ole boys will say good luck to him and he will get back in if Bernie Sanders is all the Democrats can offer.