Yellow Fever 803 Posted November 9, 2020 Just for variation a comment received just now from one of my US colleagues. "Separately, I think Mr Trump is incapable of admitting defeat (thereby making him a loser). He’ll have to stick with the “they stole it” story (thereby making him a victim of unfair practices)." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,084 Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Yellow Fever said: Just for variation a comment received just now from one of my US colleagues. "Separately, I think Mr Trump is incapable of admitting defeat (thereby making him a loser). He’ll have to stick with the “they stole it” story (thereby making him a victim of unfair practices)." That sounds about right Yellow Fever. Today's firing of the Defense Secretary being a variation of the "stabbed in the back" excuse the Germany army leadership and right wingers used at the end of WW1 - just in reverse this time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 1,600 Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Surfer said: Only a smidgen sonyc Yes a sympathetic press would be a great help, I'd take a neutral one though. Anyone who has visited America in the last decade, especially if you have driven across our great country would have been exposed to the pernicious influence of RWNJ media on TV and radio. In parts of the country that is all there seems to be. AM radio for example is all RWNJ talk shows and Evangelical grifters. It's very sad really. Only yesterday I was told in our local Vietnamese takeout that Biden is a communist and that young people want to overthrow the government Good heavens. That is so polarised! And scary. It's about time people got access to better education about binary choices (good v bad etc etc)...thinking about everything being some kind of dyadic equation is so unhelpful. I was pleased to hear that Pfizer fellow today talk about solidarity. In other words, cooperation (and interestingly that is such a major word used by EU officials ironically in policy formulation). Without solidarity we wouldn't have been able to announce the scientific breakthrough today. We need more people of position and influence talking about bringing the world together. We have witnessed 4 years of a shocking pulling apart. An attack on the values you've talked about. The young of tomorrow hold the keys. I'm trusting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 803 Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Surfer said: Anyone who has visited America in the last decade, especially if you have driven across our great country would have been exposed to the pernicious influence of RWNJ media on TV and radio. In parts of the country that is all there seems to be. AM radio for example is all RWNJ talk shows and Evangelical grifters. It's very sad really. Only yesterday I was told in our local Vietnamese takeout that Biden is a communist and that young people want to overthrow the government Haha Surfer. Thats almost the exactly the story I tell interested parties about driving across the states away from the large cities on the coasts. It's either bible studies or heavy rock. I have to oscillate between them every 30mins to keep sane. Love the grandeur of it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 421 Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) If Donald Trump is so anti mail in voting Why did he use it himself? EDIT- link added Edited November 9, 2020 by How I Wrote Elastic Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 371 Posted November 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, horsefly said: The only obtuse person here is you. Thank you for the comment, I'll take it on board. Nice of you to re read my posts, I hope they were of interest. I suspect that we actually agree on quite a lot but maybe this is not the place to really find common ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 619 Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barbe bleu said: Thank you for the comment, I'll take it on board. Nice of you to re read my posts, I hope they were of interest. I suspect that we actually agree on quite a lot but maybe this is not the place to really find common ground. How kind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 532 Posted November 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, sonyc said: His lack of humility in defeat and inability to move on, be gracious etc etc is corrosive. His lack of humility and inability to move on and be gracious!! Democrats have spent the entire term of Trumpski's Presidency trying to remove him -- There was no stone left unturned in order to take the presidency by coup, impeachment alleged Russian collusion and anything else that sprang to mind -- In this they were ably assisted by the MSM and social media, yet Trumpski survived and actually thrived. If you or anybody else seriously believe the Democrats did not apply similar underhand deceptions during the election period you are deluding yourselves and making yourselves look very stupid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 3,022 Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barbe bleu said: Thank you for the comment, I'll take it on board. Nice of you to re read my posts, I hope they were of interest. I suspect that we actually agree on quite a lot but maybe this is not the place to really find common ground. That's the sort of comment Bill would make!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 754 Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, horsefly said: Have you actually bothered to listen to this steaming pile of laughable conspiritorial cr*p? I think I can see the home-made tin-foil skull cap poking out from underneath his wig. Jesus! you've got to be seriously dumb to post this. Not one piece of evidence offered by this loon, but then that's never stopped you either. HILARIOUS!!!! Tone down the anti-Semitism, please. You're not at a Labour Party meeting now. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 371 Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Bill never accused me of being Bill. I think i might be! Some interesting thoughts here over the last couple of hours. And to YF, I completely agree with your colleague. The whole thing with Trump now is how he saves face. Let him have his excuse and he will actually probably go quietly. Edited November 9, 2020 by Barbe bleu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 754 Posted November 9, 2020 21 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: Prove it. Remember you good ole boys in Deliverance. By the way, I'm all fixed thank you. Thanks to the NHS, I have a clean bill of health. I have never encountered two more complete morons than Jools and yourself. As I said earlier, you have no grace. No compassion. And nothing to contribute. don't give it out if you can't take it. Though sounds like you've been taking it a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 1,600 Posted November 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jools said: His lack of humility and inability to move on and be gracious!! Democrats have spent the entire term of Trumpski's Presidency trying to remove him -- There was no stone left unturned in order to take the presidency by coup, impeachment alleged Russian collusion and anything else that sprang to mind -- In this they were ably assisted by the MSM and social media, yet Trumpski survived and actually thrived. If you or anybody else seriously believe the Democrats did not apply similar underhand deceptions during the election period you are deluding yourselves and making yourselves look very stupid. I was speaking of the behaviour of the president not the behaviour of other parties. You know, being presidential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,084 Posted November 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: Haha Surfer. Thats almost the exactly the story I tell interested parties about driving across the states away from the large cities on the coasts. It's either bible studies or heavy rock. I have to oscillate between them every 30mins to keep sane. Love the grandeur of it though. The USA is a fantastic country, filled with generous and patriotic people. Also filled with crooks and grifters and extremists of all persuasions. Driving across it you can't help being exposed to the physical wonder of it, the immense size of it, the abundant resources within it. I told my wife on one such drive across Tennessee - passing mile after mile after mile of maize, soy beans and cattle - "this is just one state, how could anyone possibly screw this up?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 619 Posted November 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jools said: His lack of humility and inability to move on and be gracious!! Democrats have spent the entire term of Trumpski's Presidency trying to remove him -- There was no stone left unturned in order to take the presidency by coup, impeachment alleged Russian collusion and anything else that sprang to mind -- In this they were ably assisted by the MSM and social media, yet Trumpski survived and actually thrived. If you or anybody else seriously believe the Democrats did not apply similar underhand deceptions during the election period you are deluding yourselves and making yourselves look very stupid. Give the straws back to your in-mates and stop clutching at them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 1,732 Posted November 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said: Tone down the anti-Semitism, please. You're not at a Labour Party meeting now. I would love to see you at one. Ridicule wouldn't capture it properly. You could bring up your Nazis were Socialists theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 754 Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: I would love to see you at one. Ridicule wouldn't capture it properly. You could bring up your Nazis were Socialists theory. No theory, but glad you remembered it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 1,732 Posted November 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said: don't give it out if you can't take it. Though sounds like you've been taking it a lot. I must admit the camera wasn't too bad. I watched it all on screen. Recognised you when I saw the image of an asreole. How you getting on in lockdown? Snitched on all your neighbours yet? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 1,732 Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, Rock The Boat said: No theory, but glad you remembered it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 619 Posted November 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, Jools said: His lack of humility and inability to move on and be gracious!! Democrats have spent the entire term of Trumpski's Presidency trying to remove him -- There was no stone left unturned in order to take the presidency by coup, impeachment alleged Russian collusion and anything else that sprang to mind -- In this they were ably assisted by the MSM and social media, yet Trumpski survived and actually thrived. If you or anybody else seriously believe the Democrats did not apply similar underhand deceptions during the election period you are deluding yourselves and making yourselves look very stupid. Only one person looks very stupid here. I think I'll take the word of a Republican election commisioner over your conspiritorial bullsh*t. You backed a loser again, get over it (and perhaps you should remove that ridiculous video you posted that was put together by a convicted child-**** abuser) https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/republican-election-commissioner-says-counting-votes-not-a-bad-thing/ar-BB1aPKkT?ocid=msedgntp A Republican election commissioner in Philadelphia has dismissed claims of “rigging” by president Donald Trump, saying that “counting votes is not a bad thing”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 1,600 Posted November 9, 2020 "Make America Rake Again" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/four-seasons-total-landscaping-trump-gardening-merchandise? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 1,600 Posted November 9, 2020 4 hours ago, BigFish said: Nothing lamer than one-term Trump sulking in the White House, $400 million in debt, heading for divorce and unable to work out what to do now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 498 Posted November 9, 2020 I so want this to be true as well 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 1,375 Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, sonyc said: "Make America Rake Again" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/four-seasons-total-landscaping-trump-gardening-merchandise? Between a c0ck and a hard place was another one I’ve heard. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 391 Posted November 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Between a c0ck and a hard place was another one I’ve heard. A-s-s-e-s to ashes. I don't think I ever threw this amusing German satirist into the mixer. Mind you, he also ended up in a serious diplomatic crisis with another thin-skinned despot in Erdogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 532 Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) It's begun... Edited November 9, 2020 by Jools Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 619 Posted November 9, 2020 57 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Between a c0ck and a hard place was another one I’ve heard. Perhaps, between a stiffy and a stiff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 1,732 Posted November 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, horsefly said: Perhaps, between a stiffy and a stiff. Thats Rudy and you know it Which New York Family will get to him first. Gambino I reckon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 619 Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) Actually thinking about it, it seems very apposite that Rudy stood there between a stiffy and a stiff because that seems to be precisely where he was fiddling with his genitals in that embarrassing Borat clip. Edited November 10, 2020 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 619 Posted November 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, Jools said: It's begun... What? your breakdown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
