The Never-President Trump

[horsefly 4,287]

14 minutes ago, Herman said:

Who "allowed" Jools et al to believe such horse****??

Clearly old Nige was his main enabler, but now they've had a fundamental falling out over the merits of the CPTPP he's going to have to find another racist mentor.

[Jools 584]

Didn't need 'Time' magazine to admit the election was rigged against Trumpski, but last Thursday they did just that:

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

You have to be seriously dim or more accurate a liar of the highest order to believe the election wasn't rigged in favour of dementia Joe.

[BigFish 1,986]

15 minutes ago, Jools said:

You have to be seriously dim or more accurate a liar of the highest order to believe the election was rigged in favour of dementia Joe.

Fixed your typo Jools

[horsefly 4,287]

37 minutes ago, Jools said:

Didn't need 'Time' magazine to admit the election was rigged against Trumpski, but last Thursday they did just that:

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

You have to be seriously dim or more accurate a liar of the highest order to believe the election wasn't rigged in favour of dementia Joe.

So what has Nige said to you about your support for the CPTPP? And why are you still using his ugly mug for your avatar? He really won't be happy that a supporter of world domination through a big corporate bureaucracy called the CPTPP, is using his image in this way.

[Jools 584]

5 hours ago, horsefly said:

Indeed! He just let the Russians tell him what was in them.

I see your precious EU is now kissing Russia's @rse to make up its shortfall in vaccine supplies 😀

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,182]

1 minute ago, Jools said:

I see your precious EU is now kissing Russia's @rse to make up its shortfall in vaccine supplies 😀

I wonder if there is a video of that somewhere!

[Jools 584]

47 minutes ago, BigFish said:

Fixed your typo Jools

The only thing you Lefties can fix is elections 😄

[Herman 9,717]

I think the Pink Un is going to have to write disclaimers for all of Jools's posts.

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

23 minutes ago, Jools said:

The only thing you Lefties can fix is elections 😄

If really believe what your saying you should share it this with these guys, just send an email to

security@dominionvoting.com

They would love to hear from you.

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

25 minutes ago, Jools said:

The only thing you Lefties can fix is elections 😄

Still, we can be magnanimous in victory Jools. Whats it like to be out and about again? How long were you in hiding?

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, Jools said:

I see your precious EU is now kissing Russia's @rse to make up its shortfall in vaccine supplies 😀

They should get in touch with your hero loser Donald, he has a hotline straight to Putin.

Still waiting to hear about your fall out with Nige.

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, Jools said:

I see your precious EU is now kissing Russia's @rse to make up its shortfall in vaccine supplies 😀

Let's hope the UK don't require imports of vaccines from Europe... Oh dear!!!

[Thirsty Lizard 3,155]

7 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9230169/Joe-Biden-says-Donald-Trump-NOT-receive-intel-briefings-slip-say-something.html#comments

Joe Biden says Donald Trump will NOT receive intelligence briefings

Trump never paid attention during intelligence briefings when he was President so there's really no change.

 

It's the only time you'll find the words 'Trump' and 'intelligence' together in the same sentence. 

[horsefly 4,287]

1 minute ago, Thirsty Lizard said:

It's the only time you'll find the words 'Trump' and 'intelligence' together in the same sentence. 

They always come in a triumvirate with the word "sub-normal"

[PurpleCanary 5,554]

9 hours ago, Jools said:

Didn't need 'Time' magazine to admit the election was rigged against Trumpski, but last Thursday they did just that:

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

You have to be seriously dim or more accurate a liar of the highest order to believe the election wasn't rigged in favour of dementia Joe.

Exactly how was it rigged then? It would need to have involved millions of votes being transferred from Trump to Biden, while somehow ensuring that if this was done by machines, which seems the only way such a large number of votes could have been illegally switched, that the fraudulent machine count somehow matched the genuine paper vote.

Yet no-one, up to and including the crazed Sidney Powell, who with that other moron Mike Lindell, says it definitely was the machines, has explained how these separate tallies could match if there was fraud. They could only match, as they do, if there was no fraud.

A supplementary question, when Jools hasn’t answered that one, is this. If the Dems illegally switched votes in the presidential election, why at the same time didn’t they switch votes in the House and Senate races? The Dems actually lost seats in the House and failed to win seats in the Senate, with only the Georgia run-offs giving them equality plus  a casting vote. Much simpler to have rigged the Senate races from the outset.

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, PurpleCanary said:

Exactly how was it rigged then? It would need to have involved millions of votes being transferred from Trump to Biden, while somehow ensuring that if this was done by machines, which seems the only way such a large number of votes could have been illegally switched, that the fraudulent machine count somehow matched the genuine paper vote.

Yet no-one, up to and including the crazed Sidney Powell, who with that other moron Mike Lindell, says it definitely was the machines, has explained how these separate tallies could match if there was fraud. They could only match, as they do, if there was no fraud.

A supplementary question, when Jools hasn’t answered that one, is this. If the Dems illegally switched votes in the presidential election, why at the same time didn’t they switch votes in the House and Senate races? The Dems actually lost seats in the House and failed to win seats in the Senate, with only the Georgia run-offs giving them equality plus  a casting vote. Much simpler to have rigged the Senate races from the outset.

Have you watched any of the Lindell video, it's hilarious. One of its main claims is that multiple thousands of dead people voted Democrat in key states. But the great thing about that, of course, is that it would be very easy to prove in court if it was indeed true. All you need do is roll up to court with the easily available public records, job done! So it raises the rather obvious question why Trump's team of top-notch lawyers never provided evidence to court of a single case of a dead person voting. There is, of course, only one answer; they had no such evidence. It's one thing to make a video claiming there were thousands of such incidents, but quite another to make the same claim in court. Even Trump's Adams Family lawyer collective understood that to make such claims in court would open them to the serious criminal charge of lying under oath. Thus even they were not stupid enough to book themselves a certain trip to prison this way. And likewise for the claims about rigged Dominion voting machines. Again no evidence produced in court because they had none. Indeed! every case brought to court was distinctive in that it never provided evidence of voter fraud, but instead attempted to show that millions of voters should be disenfranchised because of procedural flaws in the voting regulations (e.g. that postal votes should be disqualified). That strategy was so egregiously corrupt that even the courts stacked with Trump appointed Republican judges refused to be so disgracefully used to steal the election for the fat orange one. Thus we all enjoyed the spectacle of Giuliani becoming increasingly swivel-eyed and literally melting down as case after case was contemptuously dismissed.

As such Lindell's video turns out to be a double-edged sword. He knows that willing idiots like Jools will lap it up like the dumb obedient poodles they are, and post the lies all over the web. But, of course, that level of exposure will also provoke anyone with even the slightest capacity for critical thinking to ask why he hasn't presented any of that "evidence" in court.

Thus it is such great news that Dominion are suing Fox News, Giuliani, Lindell, and Powell for billions. It will force them in a court of law to put up, or shut up and pay up. 

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2021 by horsefly

[Surfer 1,547]

40 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Thus it is such great news that Dominion are suing Fox News, Giuliani, Lindell, and Powell for billions. It will force them in a court of law to put up, or shut up and pay up. 

Not just Dominion, Smartmatic too. It's the only thing "propaganda for profit" entities understand - empty their corporate wallet.

[horsefly 4,287]

4 hours ago, Surfer said:

Not just Dominion, Smartmatic too. It's the only thing "propaganda for profit" entities understand - empty their corporate wallet.

Indeed! It will be great to see each of those arrogant liars go bankrupt. But without a doubt, the most important thing of all is that they will be required to defend their claims of voter fraud in court. So far not one of them has done so. So far they have disingenuously repeated their claims of fraud ad infinitum outside of court without providing any substantive evidence for their claims. Now they will be forced to defend their claims in a court of law with punishments relating to purjury and financial recompence becoming a very real threat to their personal futures.  I can't wait. 

[horsefly 4,287]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-launches-pillow-company-to-put-trump-supporter-s-firm-out-of-business/ar-BB1dqb8d?ocid=msedgntp

Activist David Hogg, who co-founded the March for Our Lives organisation in response to the 2018 Parkland school shooting, has set up a pillow company to rival the firm MyPillow. 

Hogg, together with software engineer William LeGate, announced the company following comments by made by CEO Mike Lindell on Donald Trump’s presidency.

Of course I wouldn't dream of suggesting to people that they might consider contacting mypillow.co.uk to enquire from where one might source the new David Hogg pillow. Certainly you shouldn't submit anything like the following which I did by accident:

Your name:mikelindellisatwat@gmail.com  Spike Lindell

Your email: mikelindellisatwat@gmail.com mikelindellisatwat@gmail.com

I was very impressed by that lovely young man David Hogg who has just announced that he is entering the pillow making market. What an outstanding example he is of the sort of tolerant, open-minded thinking that the pillow making market has been crying out for.  So I am enquiring to see if you will be stocking this fine individual's product. If not could you kindly direct me towards another outlet that does intend to supply them.
Thank you for your help

Heil Trump!
Heil Mike!

Enquiry: 

I was very impressed by that lovely young man David Hogg who has just announced that he is entering the pillow making market. What an outstanding example he is of the sort of tolerant, open-minded thinking that the pillow making market has been crying out for.  So I am enquiring to see if you will be stocking this fine individual's product. If not could you kindly direct me towards another outlet that does intend to supply them.
Thank you for your help

Heil Trump!
Heil Mike!

Edited February 7, 2021 by horsefly

[Bill 1,788]

The rounding up of the righties continues - 235 as of yesterday. With the thought that some of these dimwitted hillbillies might have finally grasped the seriousness of the charges against them.

"The mob of fervent Maga acolytes who broke into the US Capitol following an incendiary rally headlined by Trump could face prison for up to 20 years.

“Sedition is the most serious crime that anybody could be accused of from 6 January,” Gomez said. “It’s advocating the overthrow of the US government. It involves not just talking about overthrowing democracy but having the means and wherewithal to carry out those actions.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/06/us-capitol-insurrection-fbi-investigation

meanwhile

In what some may regard as an act beyond satire Fox News has cancelled the show of one it's front men for.....lying

"The cancellation comes after Fox News and Mr Dobbs were named in a $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit by Smartmatic, which alleges the company’s earnings were “decimated” by false accusations of rigging the election."

Actions have consequences as the righties are about to find out - be they lengthy prison sentences, or hefty financial sanctions

 

[horsefly 4,287]

What a fantastic difference it makes to have a presidential press secretary who allows difficult questions to be asked and answers them intelligently:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/companies/jen-psaki-mocks-reporter-asking-about-keystone-pipeline-job-losses/vi-BB1dw6VB?ocid=msedgntp

[Surfer 1,547]

The impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump has started. 

I won't bother to re-post any of the craven apologies presented by Republicans seeking to minimize and deflect from the attack on our democratic system. Their cowardly words speak for them. 

This is what happened Senators. 

 

[Surfer 1,547]

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

The Republican Senators chosen for the jury have already aid they will not find him guilty.

What kind of fair trial is that?

[Surfer 1,547]

It's not just a trial of Donald Trump. it's a trial of the Republican Party at this stage... do they believe in democracy and respecting the will of the people? Do they? 

 

[horsefly 4,287]

18 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

The Republican Senators chosen for the jury have already aid they will not find him guilty.

What kind of fair trial is that?

A Trumped up one.

[Surfer 1,547]

9 minutes ago, horsefly said:

A Trumped up one.

Here's your "secession / sedition" list - Senators who want to inherit the mantle of Donald Trump to destroy the United States of America. Notably absent from that list are Mitch McConnell and (surprise) Lindsey Graham. 

Edited February 9, 2021 by Surfer

[horsefly 4,287]

13 hours ago, Surfer said:

It's not just a trial of Donald Trump. it's a trial of the Republican Party at this stage... do they believe in democracy and respecting the will of the people? Do they? 

 

Spot on! the dilemma they have is nothing to do with the impeachment itself. They all know what Trump did and has been doing since before he became President. That he is guilty is obvious. This is simply about how to manipulate the huge support that Trump has cultivated. The horrible truth is that the majority of the GOP is now in thrall to the Trumpian mob who have no regard whatsoever for democracy or the US Constitution. A few like Kinziger recognise that, if the GOP is to remain a political force within the democratic process enshrined by the Constitution, then it must disavow the Trumpian base. Sadly he is in a minority. The rest of the party is a melange of unprincipled spivs willing to obsequiously appease the deplorables in whatever way is required to keep their fat grubby butts on seats within the Capitol. 

You are right that the impeachment is more to do with the Republican Party's choice of it's own future identity than it is a judgement of Trump's guilt. They have the opportunity to distinguish themselves from the descent into an anti-democratic party that Trump has precipitated. A vote to impeach would very clearly do just that, and begin a process of reclaiming the party back from the white supremacists, militia men, conspiracy theorists, and assorted bigots that threaten its very existence. Sadly, it is a combination of lack of political foresight, lack of moral integrity, and naked personal ambition that characterises the majority of Republican politicians in the Capitol. This guarantees that Trump will not be found guilty, but much worse it guarantees a very dark future for a Republican Party that will find it impossible to restrain the anti-democratic impulses that lead to the insurrection of January 6th. That insurrection may come to look rather tame in comparison to what is to follow in the future. Trump has eviscerated the constituional principles that once formed the very heart of the Republican party, and now the the void in leadership which represents his main legacy presents a pitiful and ominous future for both it and the country.

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by horsefly

[Surfer 1,547]

So McConnell, by refusing to recall the Senate and hold the trial while Donald Trump was President, now votes against holding the trial at all because Donald Trump is no longer President. Which means the outcome of this trial is now moot, as well as pre-determined, irrespective of public opinion and the battle for democracy will shift to Congressional and Presidential voting rights. 

Republicans currently in control of State legislators are already moving to further restrict the voting rights of anyone who does not vote for them. The Democrat controlled House has already passed two voting rights restoration acts but the Senate under McConnell has refused to debate either one.

Now it's up to Democrats like Manchin and Republicans like Romney in the Senate. There is a 50-50 tie, therefore you must kill the Filibuster rule in order to bring these voting rights acts to the Senate floor for a vote or McConnell will kill that yet again via the Fillibuster rule. 

So do you support democracy or not? We know from their actions, re-enforced today that the majority of Republican Senators do not. If they get the House and a 51 - 49 Senate majority again, kiss that supposedly sacrosanct Fillibuster rule and democracy goodbye. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by Surfer

[horsefly 4,287]

Truly shocking stuff!

Even more shocking is that Republican politicians watched this video yesterday and still voted against impeachment.

Edited February 10, 2021 by horsefly