Herman 9,716 Posted January 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Surfer said: He managed to lose a re-election for a second term, lost the majority for his Party in the House and also lost the majority for his Party in the Senate all within a single 4 year term. A political land mine this one... be very careful where you step Republicans. I just read that he is the first to lose them all since Herbert Hoover in 32. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted January 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Herman said: I just read that he is the first to lose them all since Herbert Hoover in 32. I question how much Trump cares about all that other than the hit to his ego.... At least Hoover gave a dam... I'll get my coat. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 6, 2021 BBC Reporter For many of the people here, this is about more than President Trump. It's an existential crisis for the United States. They tell me they need to protect the constitution and stand up for American freedoms. They believe that the Democrats have "stolen" the election and that the country's institutions have been complicit. When I point out there's no evidence of fraud, they say yes there is, but the courts are not listening and the mainstream media isn't reporting on it. They're afraid the Democrats will bring socialism, are in cahoots with China, will crush their individual freedoms, and so on. Some have told me they're afraid of civil war. Some have said they're ready to fight, and one has indicated vaguely that he and his group are planning resistance. Admittedly, these are the most dedicated Trump supporters and some believe fringe conspiracy theories. But polls show a majority of Republicans don't accept Joe Biden's win as legitimate. So political tension will continue, and possibly political violence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,150 Posted January 6, 2021 Is anyone watching BBC News 24, somewhat disturbing scenes on there right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) That illustrates the power of propaganda Well b back. Yes there will be violence. It has already started and the Capitol Building is now in lockdown and VP Pence has been evacuated from the Senate chambers by the Secret Service. Traitors to democracy like Senator Cruz, cloak their objections around "States Rights" but like all such arguments it is nothing of the sort. It is simply we object to anyone but ourselves holding power. They will fail. Unfortunately people will get hurt in the process, and responsibility lies with Trump. Edited January 6, 2021 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 6, 2021 Where are RTB, Jools and cronies tonight? Funny that its terrorism if you are antifa but the second amendment if you are one of that bustards followers. He knew what he was doing winding up the white thickos who are probably all related and carrying assault rifles. They say the rifles are for protection. There is only them on the streets. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) These goons are very lucky they are not Muslim or black. This may not end well, but it will end. p.s. IMO the Capitol Police Chief should resign after this, how he/she could not have anticipated this and prepared properly is simply unbelievable. p.p.s Maybe Mike Pence and the Cabinet can invoke the 25th Amendment now? Edited January 6, 2021 by Surfer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowfuture 71 Posted January 6, 2021 The final thrashings, what a despicable bunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted January 6, 2021 Truly shocking! Lyndsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and all the Republican Party sedition caucus should hang their heads in shame. They are more responsible for this than anyone. They enabled Trump to bring the US into this parlous state. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowfuture 71 Posted January 6, 2021 One mans attempt to destroy a democracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted January 6, 2021 I've been receiving breaking news stories all day (NYT) and rioting was predicted. This will bring only shame to Trump and more so the Republicans. It has been stoked and stirred by a narcissist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,347 Posted January 6, 2021 If only they had a proper system of elections. Vote on a Thursday by scrawling an X on a ballot paper, count and declare overnight. The loser moves out of Downing St by Friday teatime. Only the Yanks could over complicate such a simple system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted January 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, ricardo said: If only they had a proper system of elections. Vote on a Thursday by scrawling an X on a ballot paper, count and declare overnight. The loser moves out of Downing St by Friday teatime. Only the Yanks could over complicate such a simple system. True, it's one weird system and yet it's worked for a good few years! It feels from the outside that Trump has turned the US into some kind of third world country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted January 6, 2021 If these scenes were happening in Downing Street would we not be bringing in the army? Etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 6, 2021 Cold day. Wheres the water canon? I didn't expect law and order to do much. So they have to disperse the crowd. Trump hasn't told them to go home. Of course, its going to happen all over the country by the end of the day. And that piece of dog siht will declare martial law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,150 Posted January 6, 2021 Astonishing, pro Trump protesters INSIDE the Senate. CNBC news live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 6, 2021 Not sure if this one been posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sonyc said: If these scenes were happening in Downing Street would we not be bringing in the army? Etc National guard there Sonyc but not sure if they are controlled by Trump or whoever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,716 Posted January 6, 2021 Suspiciously weak police response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sonyc said: If these scenes were happening in Downing Street would we not be bringing in the army? Etc I doubt it would happen ever in this country Sonyc. The US is not a stable country with citizens who cannot accept they lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donald J Trump 24 Posted January 6, 2021 I'm the best bad guy 24 never had!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 6, 2021 These scenes are playing out around the world. America's allies and adversaries are watching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted January 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: I doubt it would happen ever in this country Sonyc. The US is not a stable country with citizens who cannot accept they lost. I think he might be in trouble for this (understatement). Incitement by a President?!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHRIMPER 328 Posted January 6, 2021 First protester, a lady has just been shot in the chest. Reported on CNN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,181 Posted January 6, 2021 Trump. Ramps up the hate, then tweets for peace https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346912780700577792 What a cúnt 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,181 Posted January 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, SHRIMPER said: First protester, a lady has just been shot in the chest. Reported on CNN. I hope nobody dies tonight, because of the shíte the outgoing president has come out with today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted January 6, 2021 People in office and the media are imploring Trump to give stronger messages than he has been giving. Asking him to call it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,347 Posted January 6, 2021 American Civil War part 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 6, 2021 I bet Gump is sat with his feet up eating popcorn and watching live on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) To use Trump's term, the USA looks like a proper s-h-i-t-hole country right now. Edited January 6, 2021 by TheGunnShow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites