Surfer 1,547 Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, king canary said: I did a year studying in the states and remember a couple of Republican students keenly wanting to get my opinion on the NHS in a class debate because they were utterly certain I'd be against 'socialised medical care.' They looked a bit shocked when I told them I thought the NHS was great and that British people generally look at the US healthcare system as a bit crazy. I have a lot of time for most American's and America itself but the stereotype of them being insular as to the rest of the world and how they are viewed is spot on, even amongst the more liberal types. Most seemed really surprised that I didn't have an interest in making a permanent move out there. And they aren’t even a bit interested in finding out what goes on in Canada’s healthcare system either - yes Canada, our neighbour! Be VERY afraid of US - UK post Brexit “trade” talks, the Serco T&T fiasco is the our everyday experience - say government led organizations are inefficient, outsource the work, and then pay much more for the “efficient private sector” work than you did before. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses, screw the consumer. It’s the accepted American way unfortunately. Add in healthcare insurance tied to your employer and you have the perfect storm of high costs, low efficiency and unhealthy population. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) It isn't over until the votes are cast, counted and reported, but it's effectively over folks. Rasmussen has a very consistent bias towards Republicans, so if even they show 12 points.... massive reset in UK / US relations coming. Despite what Anne Widdecome might think about it, at minimum it means some sane ambassadors appointed to UK, Germany, EU, renewed support for NATO, economic sanctions on Russia, re-entering the Paris climate and Iran nuclear restraint agreements. And then there is trade..... UK can either get on board with an expanded US / EU agreement and renewed efforts to sign the TPP (Asia) or it will be seeing what crumbs it can pick up from China, India. Edited October 7, 2020 by Surfer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted October 7, 2020 On 29/09/2020 at 20:30, Surfer said: I wonder if they will ask about this in the debate tonight Hospitalized Brad Parscale 'is under investigation for stealing up to $40million from Trump's campaign and $10million from the RNC ....... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8782463/Brad-Parscale-investigation-stealing-40M-Trumps-2020-campaign.html. A guy deeply involved with Cambridge Analytica and vote suppression in 2106 The Information Commission has finally concluded its 3 year investigation into Cambridge Analytica. Its comprehensive report, shared with the Digital, Culture and Media and Sport Select Committee, will not make happy reading for the Carole Cadwalladrs of this world. The investigation reviewed 42 laptops and computers, 700 TB of data, 31 servers, over 300,000 documents, and a wide range of material in paper form and from cloud storage devices. Guido brings you some select findings… On whether SCL Elections Ltd and Cambridge Analytica were involved in the referendum campaign: “From my review of the materials recovered by the investigation I have found no further evidence to change my earlier view that SCL/CA were not involved in the EU referendum campaign in the UK” On data practices of organisations on both sides of the EU referendum campaign: “I identified no significant breaches of the privacy and electronic marketing regulations and data protection legislation that met the threshold for formal regulatory action.” On Evidence of Russian involvement: “We did not find any additional evidence of Russian involvement in our analysis of material contained in the SCL / CA servers we obtained.” The report does highlight dodgy data practices from Cambridge Analytica, with the Commissioner writing “I have also confirmed my previous understanding about the poor data practices at the company, which, had they sought to continue trading, would likely have attracted further regulatory action against them by my office.” It’s clear Cambridge Analytica were shysters.Yet not ones who changed the outcome of the Brexit referendum. Guido can’t wait for Carole’s Codswallop's climbdown… 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) Jools - " I identified no significant breaches of the privacy and electronic marketing regulations and data protection legislation that met the threshold for formal regulatory action" " I referred details of reported possible Russia-located activity to access data linked to the investigation to the National Crime Agency." So the lack of any rigorous data protection laws tied his hands and the government failed to investigate Russia. Just so we are clear about that..... Edited October 7, 2020 by Surfer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 7, 2020 Meanwhile - your hero has spoken : if this election campaign was a boxing match they would stop it already. The incoherent rambling is turning off even his white male supporters, he lost non-white and female support last week. Not good, not good at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHRIMPER 328 Posted October 8, 2020 Lord of the LIES. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,196 Posted October 8, 2020 Exclusive footage obtained from the White House... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,698 Posted October 8, 2020 Covid makes you more orange. Who'd have thought... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,481 Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Herman said: Covid makes you more orange. Who'd have thought... Amazing isn't it....the difference in the colour of his face and his hands in that photo. Then, he has taken loads of medication and perhaps he has taken vitamin supplements too? Vitamin A gives a carrot it's colour. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) The fly images are very amusing, but it's really frustrating that mainstream media outlets are leading with that .... for goodness sake can they stay focused on the serious issues? Candidate's policies Russian originated propaganda Voter suppression Right Wing violence (yes Jools Right Wing violence) Edited October 9, 2020 by Surfer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,111 Posted October 8, 2020 It's time to ask the important yet somehow overlooked situation. How is Melania? She got ill the same as Kim Jong-Don but updates on her condition seem to be missing. I hope she recovers and is back in time to celebrate Christmas as we know it's her favourite holiday. 😀 https://news.sky.com/story/melania-trump-complains-about-work-on-christmas-stuff-in-profane-secret-tape-recording-12087659 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Although we may have to add VP Pence's situation to this important subject list.... ... there was a comment during the debate that he had red eyes, a possible symptom of Covid infection .. and today Nancy Pelosi mention that she would be talking about the 25th Ammendment (i.e. secession to the President) tomorrow. What's going on? Edited October 9, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,698 Posted October 8, 2020 Even Leave voters think he needs to go.😲 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,698 Posted October 9, 2020 Old Typhoid Mary plans to have a rally this weekend. In youthful Florida. 🤨 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHRIMPER 328 Posted October 9, 2020 Keep digging and hope you are buried Nov 3rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,111 Posted October 9, 2020 He's not sounding too good. https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-donald-trump-coughs-through-tv-phone-in-12099840 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,698 Posted October 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: He's not sounding too good. https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-donald-trump-coughs-through-tv-phone-in-12099840 Bob Fleming? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) So the President is determined to hold a campaign event tomorrow, which will be less than the 10 day isolation guidance from the Center of Disease Control. However as we all know by now rules don't matter to Donald Trump or Boris Johnson, and the CDC Director is in Trumps pocket. Another possibility though is that it is already 10 days since he was diagnosed, and the White House is lying about when he was known to be infected, a theory gaining ground because of these snippets of information aligning ..... The White House refuses to say when his last negative test was. Amy Barrett who was the guest at the pre-debate White House celebration after which so many were diagnosed as infected, brought her seven children, two of whom attended a school where she knew that a teacher and children had tested positive for CoronaVirus. So did Donald Trump's own Supreme Court candidate cause the outbreak and infect the President? Now that would be embarrassing to say the least. And a fantastic illustration of the couldn't care less about what happens to anyone else attitude of the "pro-life" Republican Party. Meanwhile V.P Pence has not been heard from today after cancelling his trip to Indiana. Neither have we heard from Attorney General Barr, despite the FBI arresting right wing domestic terrorists who intended to kidnap the Governor of Michigan. Edited October 9, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,698 Posted October 9, 2020 But, but Hilary's emails?!😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Fact is dear Nigel, that the President has driven the news cycle every day for four years, so there is no regaining "control of the agenda" - lots of lessons for the media to learn here about chasing the shiny ball, but giving more time for Trump to spout his lunacy is not going to help him at this stage. He's toast. Many lessons for Boris to learn too... voters will wise up, and not everybody has a secret police like Putin to poison or beat those who objects to your rule. The clock is ticking, it's only a question of when your power will be lost forever. Edited October 10, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,111 Posted October 11, 2020 He ain't right. IV plaster on his hand, this man is still sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
