keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 13, 2020 Now he is saying that the CDC are lying and his ex cronies, Fox News are lying and not to believe what they say yet posts a video when Fox praises him for commuting Stone. These are the actions of someone unfit for any public office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted July 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Now he is saying that the CDC are lying and his ex cronies, Fox News are lying and not to believe what they say yet posts a video when Fox praises him for commuting Stone. These are the actions of someone unfit for any public office. Think a tad deeper, Grandad 🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bill said: There is a thought that many US voters split their votes so as to ensure (hope) that no party has absolute control However I think in this election Trump is so toxic that a lot of Republicans will hold their nose and vote Democrat, or simply not vote at all. Whereas the other side seems to be people saying how they voted Obama, skipped Hilary but will definitely vote this time to remove Trump. And that is going to be the message - get rid of Trump It's true they often do that Bill.  But I sense this year is different. He's really lost the plot, and voters have come to understand how the rest of the world sees America under this President. The CoronaVirus fiasco is the straw that broke the camel's back. And he won't quit digging his own political grave - witness today for another example. And also trying to blame Biden for the testing shortfalls.  Edited July 14, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 14, 2020 Trump has been claiming that his popularity and poll ratings have been climbing     however it was pointed out to him that it is not as simple as just turning the charts the up side down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 14, 2020 Think a tad deeper, Grandad Please don't try and tell me there is some subliminal reason for his nonsense. Why don't you give up? You had your day in the sun with the Brexit result (we'll wait and see about the outcome) but you are back in the shade with this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 14, 2020 More fool you for wasting your time on him KG, I'm afraid His odious stuff on the now taken down thread on abuse posted to Zara should tell you all you need to know about the response you will get from this obnoxious bigot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Another on brand answer - ill-informed (misdirection) and racially tinged (white pity party) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-black-americans-killed-police-white-too/ Edited July 14, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 15, 2020 Scary figures for Trump as the slide continues Safe seats Biden 198 Trump 115 add most likely to win seats Biden 308 Trump 132 so, if Trump won all of the 'undecided' 98 seats it would still leave him well short (230) of the 270 needed for a majority today’s poll https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) To be fair, the President has only just started his advertising campaigns...... so maybe those polls with change. The self proclaimed  "Law and Order" President is selling the storyline that nobody will be safe under Joe Biden.  As some have pointed out, this is recent footage, so this projection is actually happening under Donald Trump  Edited July 15, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 15, 2020 Some across like a sketch from The Day Today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 15, 2020 And as we have discussed before, the Presidents team believe that chaos in the streets will HELP them not hurt. So they, and Fox News, are peddling this fantastical story that American cities are on fire and only Trump can save us. This second clip, is a prelude to action "promised/ threatened" to happen next week (we'll see what really happens)  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted July 15, 2020 On 14/07/2020 at 14:20, Bill said: More fool you for wasting your time on him KG, I'm afraid His odious stuff on the now taken down thread on abuse posted to Zara should tell you all you need to know about the response you will get from this obnoxious bigot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 15, 2020 Freedom of Speech Jools. Not a catalogue of lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,698 Posted July 16, 2020 Selling beans. What the actual ****??!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) As stated, the slide continues by the week... even the day "Joe Biden has opened up his biggest poll lead over Donald Trump since securing the nomination, with a new nationwide survey showing him with a 15-point advantage in the race for the White House. Registered voters back the former vice president over the incumbent 52 – 37 per cent, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released on Wednesday. The same poll one month ago gave Mr Biden a lead of eight points, 49 – 41 per cent." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-poll-latest-donald-trump-approval-rating-independents-quinnipiac-a9621546.html there is no way back from this polls that (as in the UK) move around a bit always suggest that there could be a late spurt for one side or the other but a slow continuous slide points to only one result how big will Biden's win be ? Edited July 16, 2020 by Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHRIMPER 328 Posted July 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Herman said: Selling beans. What the actual ****??!! There is a saying that if.. someone does not measure up to a hill of beans.. they are not worth a hill of beans. Nail hit on head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 16, 2020 This should be free to read this ( yes, it is an opinion piece ) without a subscription i.e it is free to read at least in the US. In sum, the price of appealing so heavily to his far-right, white, evangelical and mostly male base is that Trump has alienated everyone else. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/16/here-are-reasons-trumps-losing-so-badly/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) In the middle of a pandemic and economic implosion, this is what the minority leader of the House is focused on i.e. Kevin is leader of the Republican Party in the House. Note the "mob's" and "restore order" projection again.  Edited July 16, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 16, 2020 It rather reminds me of the sick spectacle of seeing German soldiers being hanged from lamp posts as 'cowards'in the last few weeks of WW2 by SS soldiers Utterly meaningless in the context of what was happening around them - and carried iout with no sense of irony that these soldiers were hunting deserters, not fighting themselves. The US is suffering the worst death rate from the virus, jobs are being lost by the hundred thousand and here is this nutter bleating about statues while his leader promotes baked beans. No more clear evidence is needed that they have not the slightest idea of what to do, and like our government, not that bothered either To paraphrase ............ 'who the gods wish to destroy they first make totally incompetent' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Surfer said: This should be free to read this ( yes, it is an opinion piece ) without a subscription i.e it is free to read at least in the US. In sum, the price of appealing so heavily to his far-right, white, evangelical and mostly male base is that Trump has alienated everyone else. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/16/here-are-reasons-trumps-losing-so-badly/ it's free to read in the UK if you use the Firefox add on, Bypass Paywalls which allow you to read up on a wide ranch of opinions, and well researched and written articles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted July 17, 2020 On 15/07/2020 at 10:30, Surfer said: And as we have discussed before, the Presidents team believe that chaos in the streets will HELP them not hurt. So they, and Fox News, are peddling this fantastical story that American cities are on fire and only Trump can save us. This second clip, is a prelude to action "promised/ threatened" to happen next week (we'll see what really happens)   This is clearly more than a trend. We will see what they come up with next week, but what's happening in Portland, Oregon is very disturbing... the Governor has not requested their help, this is the Federal Government "taking the initiative" and probably violating the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.  A reminder that Joe Scarborough is a former Republican Congressman.   https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/#.XxD9y_CwH4w.twitter  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 17, 2020 Trumpo will need to come up with something His approval/disapproval rating is now showing a 15 point negative gap and voting gives Biden 50%, Trump 40% that voting would give Biden a huge majority in the lower house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 17, 2020 I didn't realise that Scavino, Trumps twitter and speech writer had no other qualifications for WH Communications Director than he managed one of Trump's golf courses. FORE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,112 Posted July 18, 2020 Nothing says one term Trump more than getting 'fact checked' during an interview by Fox News. 🤣 The idiot then challenged the interviewer and still lost out, it's over Donnie, time to play more golf.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 19, 2020 "I am leading in all the real polls" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,112 Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said: "I am leading in all the real polls" Bidens got a bit of work to do with the white voters. 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
