Keeper On The Bench

[Mason 47 1,921]

Based on a brief trawl, the last time I can find that Norwich were involved in a game where our sub keeper was required was 5 years ago, Mark Bunn being sent off; I can''t remember the last time before then (perhaps someone with a better memory than me can?).

My point being, the occurrence is a rare one and I wonder if, given how tightly the homegrown rules currently squeeze our squad, maybe it would be better used taking the risk and going instead with an extra outfielder that might affect a game.

Naturally this comes with risks and it would paint a target on Krul (I can remember Dion clouting the keeper several times at Charlton a few years ago as they didn''t have a backup, before the ref twigged and booked him for it) but ultimately the risk is having to play part of one game with Stiepermann in goal. Would having, say, Buendia on the bench instead gain more points over the season than it might lose?

Or would Carrow Road collectively do its nut at Farke losing the plot?

[capricorn1 18]

I guess if it became that tight you''d just put Oxborough on the bench as the backup keeper?

[ZLF 334]

I couldnt agree with no keeper on the bench, after all we can still only make three subs.

Personally I would have Oxborough on there just in case and have have him playing the u23 games (where the fixture dates dont clash) to ensure we get the best 6 subs possible.

If Krul gets injured or sent off we can then draft McGovern in to either start or keep the bench warm the next game

[lincsy88 106]

I remember years ago I think it was Sheffield United who never had a keeper on the bench when the sub rules was only 5 and I think it was Colin who was in charge. They had Paddy Kenny in goal and use to stick Phil Jagielka in if ever needed which I dont think was very often.

The argument I would say is with it not being 7 subs shouldn''t you be able to pick enough subs to effect the game even if you have a keeper on the bench?

Farke/Webber etc. knew of this rule is wasn''t introduced at the start of the season surely they should have thought about it and planned accordingly with signing players and having tactics etc that would suit or so you would think.

[Guest]

As long as Oxborough is getting games for the U23''s, I think it is a good idea.

Doubt it will happen though.

[lincsy88 106]

[quote user="keelansgrandad"]As long as Oxborough is getting games for the U23''s, I think it is a good idea.

Doubt it will happen though.[/quote]

Thats the thing though, Oxborough isnt playing for the U23s at the minute is he. He seems to be in limbo, no bench time and no U23s games. Should at least be in the bench if you ask me and get McGovern off the wage bill.

[CDMullins 498]

you have to ask yourself;

If we are swapping the GK for a 7th Outfield sub;

And we can only make 3 changes then realistically what chance is it that we would go with the 7th choice sub rather than the rest?

So no point.

[FCC 94]

Never thought I’d think this, but having seen Krul, I think McGovern needs to be the starter.

[Alex Moss 2,167]

[quote user="FCC"]Never thought I’d think this, but having seen Krul, I think McGovern needs to be the starter.[/quote]

Nothing against McGovern, but Krul made a couple of excellent saves against Sheff Utd. I think he’ll become a key player for us as this season progresses, but we shall see.

[Bill 1,788]

I think whatever gains might be made would be offset by the howls of condemnation were we to need a 2nd keeper during a game.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

[quote user="lincsy88"][quote user="keelansgrandad"]As long as Oxborough is getting games for the U23''s, I think it is a good idea.

Doubt it will happen though.[/quote]

Thats the thing though, Oxborough isnt playing for the U23s at the minute is he. He seems to be in limbo, no bench time and no U23s games. Should at least be in the bench if you ask me and get McGovern off the wage bill.[/quote]

...speaking of players on limbo...and slightly on a different tangent....why on earth wouldnt buendia and passlack have played for the U23s at Colney today vs reading?...seems a waste of a chance to have got minutes in..

[Alex Moss 2,167]

Sounds like Passlack and Buendia are maybe in contention for Preston, GJL.

[FCC 94]

Does anyone remember Sutch going in goal away at Huddersfield one time, and Forster getting sent off at Tranmere?

[kick it off 2,062]

[quote user="Alex "]Sounds like Passlack and Buendia are maybe in contention for Preston, GJL.[/quote]

That''s my logic too. I''d be surprised if they weren''t in the squad.

[SwindonCanary 457]

Team against Leeds if we don''t beat Preston will be interesting

[andyc24_uk 78]

Oxborough on the bench filling out one of the home-grown slots would make far more sense than McGovern, there can''t be that much difference in quality between the two give that McGovern is way off being good enough for our level and Oxborough would benefit from the experience of being in and around the senior squad, where he presumably has a future, instead of McGovern who will surely be off at the end of the season regardless.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

We talk about a one match situation and the how unlikely it is that there would be a need for McGovern to substitute for an injured or red carded Krul, but what about if Krul sustained a long term injury?

Who would then be the better stand in, over say half a dozen games? I should imagine that Oxborough would be far too young and inexperienced to step up.

Of course this still does not alter the match day situation and points made about the ''keeper on the substitutes bench, which are valid, but it does justify the place of McGovern on the books.

I seem to remember Gunn''s costly long term injury way in the past, but I cannot recall the details.

I do not know the current rules regarding emergency loans with regards to goalkeepers but, if this still operates, it would only cover for a series of injuries in that position rather than a deliberate attempt to trim the squad in any case.