Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted September 2, 2018 Are you drunk Nutty ? With respect . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted September 2, 2018 Haven''t had a drink since we last lost a derby. Record for the wagon.What was it about my post made you think I''d fallen off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted September 2, 2018 re that shots on target stat. So someone hits the inside of the post and it rebounds out, and that''s not a shot on target? But you hit the inside of the post and it goes in and then it is? What if you hit the inside of the post and it rebounds out, hits the goalkeeper on his back and it goes in? Does that count?The point is you can complain that "we had no shots on target" but if the way they measure it ignores shots that hit a post or bar, it''s not properly measuring genuine attacking attempts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted September 2, 2018 Abysmal is pretty much spot on. Very poor game of football that neither team deserved to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted September 2, 2018 If a shot hits the post or bar then no statistically it’s not counted on target Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,531 Posted September 2, 2018 It''s more entertaining when it hits the bar than if it hits the post. Don''t ask me why though.🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treacletown07 3 Posted September 2, 2018 It should be known as the under achievement Derby. I would have been really disappointed to lose to a team that will be lucky to stay up this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coops 0 Posted September 2, 2018 Was there. We were awful. Ipswich better second half. Did well to scramble a point. Papers over the cracks. We are a terrible team going nowhere. Farke is clueless. We have signed some dross players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted September 2, 2018 Seemed to me, it was two poor playing teams who finished even, thank you Leitner for having a shot outside the box, when everyone else was trying to walk it into the net ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,228 Posted September 2, 2018 Two tough away games in a matter of days and we remain unbeaten. Derbies are seldom good games whatever clubs are involved and there hasn''t been a decent Norwich Ipswich game for several years now. Really nothing to moan about and we now have a couple of weeks to regroup and prepare for Boro.OTBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 751 Posted September 2, 2018 Trying to move the goalposts here, Surfer...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted September 2, 2018 Well maybe a couple of inches 47.It does annoy me though that you can have a game where you can be "all over the opposition" and hit the bar and post a couple of times, put a header just over etc, and the stats will say "no shots on targets". Time to retire that statistic, it''s junk and offers no insight to what really happens in a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted September 2, 2018 Surfer wrote the following post at 02/09/2018 5:50 PM:Well maybe a couple of inches 47. It does annoy me though that you can have a game where you can be "all over the opposition" and hit the bar and post a couple of times, put a header just over etc, and the stats will say "no shots on targets". Time to retire that statistic, it''s junk and offers no insight to what really happens in a game. That’s because there would have been no shots on target! The stats for what you’re talking about are counted in the off target stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted September 2, 2018 If any stat needs to be retired it’s possession Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted September 2, 2018 In isolation a draw away in a derby game has to be acceptable even though they probably had the best of the game. More worrying after 6 games we already have early evidence that has to be concerning and less than a point a game is relegation form. We will just have to see but the early season optimism of some has been blown away and looks like being a long hard season. Even if farke does not get the pre Christmas chop I cannot see even this board extending his contract which runs out in the summer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted September 2, 2018 Actually if there is any one stat that needs retiring it is assists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 751 Posted September 2, 2018 Yes. Probably all stats are so much junk in isolation, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted September 2, 2018 The only stat that matters is goals. Everything else is opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 755 Posted September 2, 2018 agree Re possession - according to skysports the possession was 44.7-55.3 in our favour.Yet despite having less possession, ipswich had eight shots more than us (19 vs 11), three times more shots on target than us (6 vs 2), the same amount of key passes (9 each), and more corners (7 vs 6). We needed to make over twice as many clearances (29 vs 69) and we had an equal amount of clear cut chances (1-1). Goals might be all that counts, but the rest of those stats above tell you far more about who was likely to score more goals than any possession stats do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted September 2, 2018 Funny that if we get a result the whingers turn into football connoisseurs. If we lose but play well they are happy to moan about the result.Good result today except if you''re stupid enough to think there are easy games or an Ipswich fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 501 Posted September 2, 2018 We can paper over the cracks but one thing is certain we will not be challenging for Premiership Football in the near future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted September 2, 2018 We have some really good footballers but we are not getting the best out them.The Leeds game really demonstrated how far off the pace we are, for every touch they took we took 2, the attacked with pace and were solid. I’ll accept that they will be there or there abouts but they are essentially the same squad do clearly the coach/manager does matter and shows you can get results from the same group of players.Today was a derby, it’s always a tense affair so it’s not a great gauge of the team, however, something has to change and quickly.We just need to be thankful that even though we were dreadful, they were just as bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted September 2, 2018 Stats are only any good if ''read'' correctly: shots on/off target are horribly misleading - an open goal missed is clearly a far better chance than a 30-yard dribbler that my mum would stop, but ''stat'' wise you''d think the opposite.As the home side you''d generally expect to be more on the front foot, and be pretty worried if a reasonable amount of stats didn''t favour you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites