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[quote user="TIL 1010"]I must have missed those posts giving any or all of the reasons.[/quote]
I missed those ones too Tilly. But I didn''t miss the ones suggesting reasons which was what I posted[;)]

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My thoughts - he has maybe fallen out with others at the club for quite specific reasons. 
One scenario is that financial situations may have been made against his advice, ie - he may have tried to put his foot down about them and found those decisions made anyway.  He was in charge of finances - so maybe he was undermined  and made too much fuss. 
The other reason may be the opposite - he may have got things wrong financially himself and has paid with his job.
The most recent happenings at the club have been the contracts to Lewis, Thompson and Aarons.   Welcome, yes - but only if the club can afford them - maybe he thought the club can''t afford them......or again, the opposite - maybe he ok''d them and someone else thought we couldn''t afford them.
Either way something must have happened to warrant him being allegedly sacked as someone has said on here. That implies something fairly important given his position and with the accounts being revealed soon, then it in all probablity has something to do with them - makes the release of those accounts a bit more interesting to look forward to.......if "look forward" is the right phrase.....

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The word sacking did not get mentioned until page 10 and up until then all i had read was conjecture covering countless scenario''s as to why SS had left.
Yours
Mr Pedantic.

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[quote user="TIL 1010"]
The word sacking did not get mentioned until page 10 and up until then all i had read was conjecture covering countless scenario''s as to why SS had left.
Yours
Mr Pedantic.
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Which is why I said it was an interesting development.
You obviously read none of my post but that''s nothing unusual and I''ll make more allowances now you''ve reached your seventies...

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[quote user="norfolkngood"]Believe me Purple this person knows the story as i imagine so does the media

i might add i do not know the Reason just yet also it is very unlikely i will be able to post on here when i do[/quote]
You''re welcome to PM me in confidence, norfolk, if you want to. What I am querying is that he was outright sacked, irrespective of what he felt or wanted, as opposed to the usual arrangement of leaving by mutual consent. Since he was a director any compensation for him will show up either in the post-balance sheet events for 2017-18 or in the 2018-19 accounts.
I think the shock is mainly because Stone by all accounts was very approachable and built up relations with supporters back up post-Moxey. But the reality is that there was no career progression path for him, and will not be while the club keeps the sporting director model. I don''t know which came first, but the creation of this triumvirate of Webber et al  emphasises that. There was really not much of a job left for someone who had been acting CEO.
Whether Stone realsied that and decided he wanted to leave, or whether the board made that plain to him, or a combination of both, it adds up to the same outcome.

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Circumstances and factors adding up to a parting (as outlined) - even where one side may be happier than the other, would have liked things to be different, is a bit frustrated, has an argument and says things in a heated moment, or NDAs are subsequently in place - does not consitute a sacking, which has a very distinct meaning and implications.

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I think it is down to what he had on his toast for breakfast.

Confucius say constant dripping wears away stone.

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Someone needs to get up at the AGM and demand to know what is the common thread in the mysterious departures of the following individuals:

1. The Turners

2. Bowkett

3. McNasty

4. Moxey

5. Stone

We have still not been given satisfactory explanations in every case and the strong suspicion must be that the Suffolk Socialists are brazenly using confidentiality clauses to cover up their inability to work with people with whom they disagree.

Bowkett''s departure was particularly insulting to shareholders, as he had been re-elected in good faith, only to resign 2/3 weeks later with no explanation at all.

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Bowkett became an isolated figure as McNally would always side in with Delia, so got the stage where he had had enough. Equally Stone was brought in to ''sort the finances out'', so both figures in a way become obsolete once they had competed their objective.

I miss Bowkett as he was the only member of the board who I believed what he was saying was actually sincere. Dealing with The Smiths must be a thankless task.

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Must be true Komakino, after all so many managers, board members, CEO''s have commented on how hard it is to work with The Smiths, haven''t they?
I mean I presume they must have done; otherwise it would appear you''re making things up.

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It''s an arrogant fairytale Hoggy. Not even preceded by "IMO". Just stated as fact. Yet we don''t know what evidence there is for this ''fact''.
For what it''s worth I believe that Bowkett left to spend more time with is family. I believe that because MWJ said so at the last but one AGM.

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No club, or business or that matter, would admit that a board member had left because of dubious reasons. “Spending time with family” or “seeking new cballenges” are classic PR spins. It could be that they’re absolutely true of course, but it’s incredibly naive to believe everything the Norwich City board is 100% honest.

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[quote user="hogesar"]Must be true Komakino, after all so many managers, board members, CEO''s have commented on how hard it is to work with The Smiths, haven''t they?
I mean I presume they must have done; otherwise it would appear you''re making things up.
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But that is the whole thrust of what I have argued.

They are not allowed to say what they would like to say because of confidentiality clauses.

And you would not expect anything other than deceit when dealing with that socialist woman.

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@hoegsar

Not that I agree or believe Kominko but you''ll rarely find senior figures slagging off their previous bosses on record as it makes them look bad and could easily hinder future employment, not to mention there will usually be clauses about what people can and can''t say.

It does seem like we have a lot of turnover in the boardroom but I don''t know if that is unusual for a football team.

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I love Bowkett, how he came in and just how much he did to shore up this club when needed.

I couldn’t believe when he left and the manner which he left just after being re-elected, very strange.

But that’s history as is Stone now, I can’t get too excited about things outside my control, as far as I’m concerned those in charge have a plan and are executing this, if it produces good football and brings through our own youngsters, great.

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I Know why Moxey left and i back Delia and the Board totally !

i was getting text updates as it happened and i told a couple of posters on here as it was happening via PM ,

i am not one for posting news first as it is to obvious but posters who can remember at the time it was Dealt with very quickly by the Board and Delia and the Axe fell all in one afternoon

A quite rightly too !

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Norfolk, I really appreciate any info you post on here, it’s clear you have a internal contact.

I know Mr Ferrari from a few meetings and have to say he’s always been very good to me, though I did get into trouble with him once posting on the original NCFC forum.

I was lucky enough to know Stringer through his daughter many moons ago, through work.

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[quote user="king canary"]@hoegsar

Not that I agree or believe Kominko but you''ll rarely find senior figures slagging off their previous bosses on record as it makes them look bad and could easily hinder future employment, not to mention there will usually be clauses about what people can and can''t say.

It does seem like we have a lot of turnover in the boardroom but I don''t know if that is unusual for a football team.[/quote]
I suspect Norwich City are actually more stable than most clubs. I have been selecting the PUPs choice so I just picked Nottingham Forest at random, We have had 10 comings and going at board level in the last eight years and Forest have had 14.

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Whilst I agree that the board level changes are not something to be too concerned with I''m not sure that forest are a yardstick we want to be judged against in this regard, have they not been through 2 takeovers and a period of tinpottery during that time?

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[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="TIL 1010"]
The word sacking did not get mentioned until page 10 and up until then all i had read was conjecture covering countless scenario''s as to why SS had left.
Yours
Mr Pedantic.
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Which is why I said it was an interesting development.
You obviously read none of my post but that''s nothing unusual and I''ll make more allowances now you''ve reached your seventies...
[/quote]
TBH, after the first 28,000 posts most people stopped reading what you had to say.
My old man used to say that those that talk a lot don''t usually have much interesting to say. You confirm what a wise old head he was.

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[quote user="Iwans Big Toe"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="TIL 1010"]
The word sacking did not get mentioned until page 10 and up until then all i had read was conjecture covering countless scenario''s as to why SS had left.
Yours
Mr Pedantic.
[/quote]
Which is why I said it was an interesting development.
You obviously read none of my post but that''s nothing unusual and I''ll make more allowances now you''ve reached your seventies...
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TBH, after the first 28,000 posts most people stopped reading what you had to say.
My old man used to say that those that talk a lot don''t usually have much interesting to say. You confirm what a wise old head he was.
[/quote]
You''re old man probably took everything at face value without thinking on. Like father like son...

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[quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]No club, or business or that matter, would admit that a board member had left because of dubious reasons. “Spending time with family” or “seeking new cballenges” are classic PR spins. It could be that they’re absolutely true of course, but it’s incredibly naive to believe everything the Norwich City board is 100% honest.[/quote]
This is how the world seems to work now Hoola. Everybody can have their own truth and nobody has the right to challenge it. I''ve heard three versions of truth about Bowkett. They can''t all be true. So you can choose one of the following. (Or concoct your own).
Truth 1: -
Bowkett became an isolated figure as McNally would always side in with Delia, so got the stage where he had had enough.
Truth 2. : -
Mcnally totally embarrassed Bowkett in an incident at Vicarage Road. So Bowkett resigned.
Truth 3 : -
Bowkett resigned to spend more time with his family.
I have never seen a club statement about this. But I watch things closely at AGMs. And at the AGM in 2017 when this was brought up I saw MWJ say to others on the top table "I thought he left to spend time with his family". It wasn''t an answer or a statement. Just something I saw and heard. Now I''m not saying that''s what happened. I''m just saying that''s what I heard. 

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[quote user="Iwans Big Toe is going to sue"]
TBH, after the first 28,000 posts most people stopped reading what you had to say.
My old man used to say that those that talk a lot don''t usually have much interesting to say. You confirm what a wise old head he was.
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Was that really necessary? (it''s a rhetorical question)
Do I get to insult you if my post count is lower?

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Anyway.......Mr Stone''s departure conveniently occurred just before the international break.....Also, a couple of good young footballing prospects have extended their NCFC stay. Next week against Forest, folk can now discuss on how many board changes and upheavals they''ve had in relation to our very open ''community club''.....Oh, and the comment ''Like Father, like Son''......Yep, you betcha!.....

Oh, and does anyone think that Dogs, sometimes look a lot like their owners?.....

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[quote user="Icecream Snow"][quote user="Iwans Big Toe is going to sue"]
TBH, after the first 28,000 posts most people stopped reading what you had to say.
My old man used to say that those that talk a lot don''t usually have much interesting to say. You confirm what a wise old head he was.
[/quote]
Was that really necessary? (it''s a rhetorical question)
Do I get to insult you if my post count is lower?
[/quote]

You get use to it on here.... It seems acceptable to some.

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[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Iwans Big Toe"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="TIL 1010"]
The word sacking did not get mentioned until page 10 and up until then all i had read was conjecture covering countless scenario''s as to why SS had left.
Yours
Mr Pedantic.
[/quote]
Which is why I said it was an interesting development.
You obviously read none of my post but that''s nothing unusual and I''ll make more allowances now you''ve reached your seventies...
[/quote]
TBH, after the first 28,000 posts most people stopped reading what you had to say.
My old man used to say that those that talk a lot don''t usually have much interesting to say. You confirm what a wise old head he was.
[/quote]
You''re old man probably took everything at face value without thinking on. Like father like son...
[/quote]
Nah, unlike you, he always thought about his answer before responding.
You should conisder taking a page out of his book. It''d keep your post count down.

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