Well b back 3,139 Posted July 5, 2018 We scouted Seb Bassong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 317 Posted July 6, 2018 In the absence of any other plausible explanation, I have concluded that most of these West Africans were fished out of the Med by the Italian coastguard.Nigeria is a former British colony with a population of 180m so it should be easier for them to get a work visa if Purple''s musings are correct?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,656 Posted July 6, 2018 Did i actually just read that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 I know this isn''t a serious post, but I''ll bite.Different countries have different rules regarding work permits/visa obviously, and also obviously, if a player receives a work permit/visa for one European country it doesn''t mean they can then play in any other country in Europe. The FA have always had very restrictive work permit regulations. For a non-EU player to be able to get a work permit from the home office they have to receive something that is called a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE), these endorsements also apply to other sectors for Tier 2 or Tier 5 visas.The rules for receiving such a GBE can be found on the here;http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-for-players-2017-18.ashxBasically have represented their nation in a proportion of games that increases the lower ranked the nation with players for nations ranked below 50th not eligible through category A.There is an appeals process which looks at Cat B, which then takes into account the fee paid compared to the average fee paid for players in the Premier League or the wages the player is going to receive relative to other players within their own team. The league the player comes from is also taken into consideration if it is one the top 5 leagues in Europe or top 2 in South America.The appeals process use to be less objective and more subjective and clubs and experts appointed by the club would have to give evidence as to the players ability. This once lead to Gordon Strachan saying Koki Mizuho was ''the best winger he had ever seen'' in order to successfully get him a work permit. Such bare faced lies have lead to the FA changing to the current system.Other nations will often just defer to national visa rules, which generally say if a player has a job promise with wages over a certain level then they will be granted a visa for the length of the contract. Professional footballers are obviously paid more than the level required.So, looking at your examples and discounting Iwobi, Igahlo and Drogba who all have dual nationality and held EU passports, you have Ahmed Musa. When Leicester signed him he was a regular Nigerian international and was a high value transfer on high wages - he easily passed the FA''s work permit requirement. However when he was signed by VVV Venlo as an 18 year old, he would not have meant any of the FA''s requirements and would have been refused a work permit. However as a player signed as a first team regular for a Dutch Eredivise club he easily meant the Dutch requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 6, 2018 Hmm, that got posted a few more times than I expected... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 317 Posted July 6, 2018 So if I have read that correctly, the FA will allow in the footballer fat cats, but not the promising youngsters you would be looking for as a scout?It sounds like NCFC need to set up a sister academy in Europe so that these players can be "processed" to meet the requirements. But of course Brexit may turn everything on its head............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,583 Posted July 6, 2018 [:D]What will come first, new forum software or Vince understanding your post(s)?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites