New season yet sadly some things never change

[hampton canary 24]

West Brom took a corner and all eleven City players were in the box against 7 opponents; yet once again we conceded a goal. I just cannot get my head around why Farke insists on playing this way for corners. Even if by chance we managed to head the ball away there were 3 West Brom players unmarked outside the box waiting to pick the ball up.

[Clint 221]

Farke seems painfully unable to adapt to English football, repeatedly sticking with the same failings.

I dread to think how many goals we’ve conceded from set pieces since he’s been in charge. This is something that he could put right on the training ground but just seems unable to see the problems.

[Robornio 106]

Were you expecting anything to change for the better?

- Same guy in charge, who hasn’t shown any inclination of being a good manager at this level.

- Having sold our two best players and replacing them with cheap, unproven mercenaries who haven’t played in the English league before.

- Same woefully inept board members, who are more interested in keeping the nepotist status quo than reaching an ambition and acquiring additional money to spend on the club.

- Last year of parachute payments; having completely wasted our financial advantage over the two previous seasons.

- A chairman who is more interested in building his tv career as a bafoon - wrestling in America and dancing Gangnam Style.

- No clear idea of where we should be, how to get there or why it’s all going so horribly downhill.

Alas.

[Mello Yello 2,273]

It''s the Webberlution......and we''re all part of it......WAHOO!

[Branston Pickle 3,631]

Yes, everything was dire yesterday. I don''t know why anyone would bother. We had eleven clueless players just lumping the ball around, we should have lost by tonnes more.

If anyone really thinks that they were at a completely different game to me.

We lost, and were unlucky to do so. Our play most of the time was very good. There''s clearly things to work on, but get over it!

[JF 694]

If you concede four goals at home you haven’t lost unluckily

[Alex Moss 2,165]

I think some positive changes have been made, now that we mix it up with long balls etc, there is no denying we are far more of a threat going forwards, and for me the signings will prove to be very good over the course of the season. 2 games in, I’m not panicked whatsoever by yesterdays bizarre game as it’s so rare to see such an unusual match. The way people have been talking on FB then you’d think Rhodes and Krul will be making such mistakes week in week out. I don’t think so somehow. And we know Klose and Hanley are very capable defenders, I would imagine if Zimmermann comes back in (as i’d like to see) to a back 3 with Lewis returning then we’ll be far more solid, the trick will be to see if we can retain such a threat going forwards, I suspect with the new signings and the emergence of Hernandez then we will, that boy is flying with confidence. That first half was the best I’d seen us play for a long time, West Brom were as lucky they weren’t smashed off the park by half time as we were unlucky with unusual errors, and I didn’t feel we looked particularly vulnerable or threatened whatsoever until they shellshocked us. I’m confident we’re in for a good season, but each to their own. I reckon we’ll win against both Stevenage and Sheffield Utd and things will look rosier again.

[norfolkngood 1,086]

You hear that a lot since Farke has been here though

we had more of ball or we played them off the park in 1st half or we had so much possession or even we had better chances the fact is we lost and many other times when we have been the better side

no panic yet only two games in but same story after 10 and we have to start looking at Farke

[hogesar 9,606]

If you think Farke has changed nothing from last season then may I suggest youve either never watched football or have a serious visual impairment.

[Mike 0]

[quote user="hogesar"]If you think Farke has changed nothing from last season then may I suggest youve either never watched football or have a serious visual impairment.[/quote]

ah... the childish insults... seems somethings definitely do not change.

we are exactly as I thought we would be..

[Clint 221]

The OP is talking about set-piece defending, as was I. If you think either post relates to the team or performance as a whole, then you have a visual impairment.

[hogesar 9,606]

I was replying to Robornio. That should have been obvious from the content of my post, apologies if not.

Mike, its not being childish. Its being factual. If Robornio thinks our style of play or tactical decision making is identical to last season then he is wrong. Plain wrong. No point beating around the bush.

[Mike 0]

Facts are we can still not defend set pieces, facts are that we continue to drop points at home to poor sides, facts are we are not good enough to challenge at the top of the league.

Your boorish insults are dull and that my friend is 100% fact.

[Alex Moss 2,165]

[quote user="Mike "]Facts are we can still not defend set pieces, facts are that we continue to drop points at home to poor sides, facts are we are not good enough to challenge at the top of the league.

Your boorish insults are dull and that my friend is 100% fact.[/quote]

Poor sides? As we’re on 100% facts, you do know that West Brom are one of the favourites for the Championship title?

[Mike 0]

[quote user="Alex "][quote user="Mike "]Facts are we can still not defend set pieces, facts are that we continue to drop points at home to poor sides, facts are we are not good enough to challenge at the top of the league.

Your boorish insults are dull and that my friend is 100% fact.[/quote]

Poor sides? As we’re on 100% facts, you do know that West Brom are one of the favourites for the Championship title?[/quote]

Yesterday they were poor imo... I go on what I see not pundits opinion on paper.

Post 100% stands

[hogesar 9,606]

Wow Mike, throwing the towel in after 2 games basically. Good job youre not playing for us. No bottle. None whatsoever.

[Alex Moss 2,165]

[quote user="Mike "][quote user="Alex "][quote user="Mike "]Facts are we can still not defend set pieces, facts are that we continue to drop points at home to poor sides, facts are we are not good enough to challenge at the top of the league.

Your boorish insults are dull and that my friend is 100% fact.[/quote]

Poor sides? As we’re on 100% facts, you do know that West Brom are one of the favourites for the Championship title?[/quote]

Yesterday they were poor imo... I go on what I see not pundits opinion on paper.

Post 100% stands[/quote]

Not bothered by pundits opinions myself, I also go by what I see - and I see a West Brom team that has managed to maintain most of their Premier League squad. That’s undeniable, and this is the reason why they’re one of the favourites to go back up. But there’s a good reason they looked poor as you admitted yourself - it’s just a shame we committed a few costly errors as that was our undoing rather than anything else.

[Robornio 106]

It is, as always, amusing how the intellectually lacking state something as ‘fact’, yet give no clue as to substantiation. That could be argued to be 100% fact. I see nothing that makes me think we are any better than last year, nor does logic state it would be when very little has changed... regardless of what your opinion or your cheap insults say. Thank you.

[Mike 0]

[quote user="hogesar"]Wow Mike, throwing the towel in after 2 games basically. Good job youre not playing for us. No bottle. None whatsoever.[/quote]

Webber and Farke are in their second season not two games in hence the "new season yet sadly some things never change" title to the thread.

You know nothing about my character whatsoever and that''s why I am surprised by your snidey silly little comment... I just you lied when you talked about only going on facts... Sad really.

[Mike 0]

PS Bottle? I''ll bet you 250 quid we do not make the top six by the end of the season... Let''s see your bottle eh!

[JF 694]

Just over one season now Farke hasn’t shown any signs that he is capable of adapting to and delivering a successful championship team. If after 10 games we are still asking the same questions then I would suggest it’s Farkes bottle that needs questioning.

[hogesar 9,606]

I cant say im shocked that someone with your bottle wants to bet against his own team. Just when I thought we couldnt stoop another level...

[Mike 0]

Ah so you are just hot air... Thought so... There is supporting your team every week like I do and there is burying you head in the sand and refusing to see what is plainly in front of yo.

Now I will say it again, you obviously think we are good enough to be top six as you have spent all preseason praising Farke and Webber and slagging off anyone with a differing view, back it up and prove you meant it.... 250 quid top six.

[Mike 0]

[quote user="Alex "][quote user="Mike "][quote user="Alex "][quote user="Mike "]Facts are we can still not defend set pieces, facts are that we continue to drop points at home to poor sides, facts are we are not good enough to challenge at the top of the league.

Your boorish insults are dull and that my friend is 100% fact.[/quote]

I thought we played reasonably well first half and should have gone in front at half time. Then the mistake knocked us for six...

Onel looked a really handful and thought McLean had a decent game.

Poor sides? As we’re on 100% facts, you do know that West Brom are one of the favourites for the Championship title?[/quote]

Yesterday they were poor imo... I go on what I see not pundits opinion on paper.

Post 100% stands[/quote]

Not bothered by pundits opinions myself, I also go by what I see - and I see a West Brom team that has managed to maintain most of their Premier League squad. That’s undeniable, and this is the reason why they’re one of the favourites to go back up. But there’s a good reason they looked poor as you admitted yourself - it’s just a shame we committed a few costly errors as that was our undoing rather than anything else.[/quote]

[Mike 0]

thought we played reasonably well first half and should have gone in front at half time. Then the mistake knocked us for six...

Onel looked a really handful and thought McLean had a decent game.

[Mike 0]

[quote user="hogesar"]I cant say im shocked that someone with your bottle wants to bet against his own team. Just when I thought we couldnt stoop another level...[/quote]

Remember you hating the "I hope I am wrong" quotes... Now is you chance to prove to everyone you were right and we were all wrong... Back up your statements or don''t you believe them? Simple choice really...

[River End Canary 18]

I have a Farke face mask going for free if anyone wants one

[A Load of Squit 5,108]

[quote user="hampton canary"]West Brom took a corner and all eleven City players were in the box against 7 opponents; yet once again we conceded a goal. I just cannot get my head around why Farke insists on playing this way for corners. Even if by chance we managed to head the ball away there were 3 West Brom players unmarked outside the box waiting to pick the ball up.[/quote]

I asked a coach about this and he said, although it wasn''t a philosophy he adheared to, that the thinking behind this is that if the ball is cleared it invariably does not go to the player you leave up and the other thing is that the shape of the defensive set up fragments as players don''t move as a unit. By having all of your players defending the corner you can operate as a unit and move up the field by pressing the opposition players who retrieve the ball that was cleared.

Whether you belive in the plan or not it''s what some coaches believe and they also believe that the stats back it up.

I''m not here to defend it I''m just reporting what the coach I asked said.

[TIL 1010 4,717]

[quote user="Jim Bell"]I have a Farke face mask going for free if anyone wants one[/quote]

I heard yours made you look like a gay German pornstar.

[TIL 1010 4,717]

Oh forgot to say i am with Mike on this one........we won''t be bothering the Top 6 this season.