So, how many players do we have...

[nutty nigel 7,509]

... who are cheap, German & from the third tier?

[Tired 102]

Two years ago, how many players did we have that were expensive, old and from the Premier League?

[king canary 7,577]

Cheap- loads

German- a few

From the third tier- just the new forward I think.

What I like about them is they are all reasonably young with the potential to improve.

[Molly Windley 76]

Squad and numbers from start of 2015/6 season1. John Ruddy (GK)

2. Steven Whittaker

3. Andre Wisdom

4. Bradley Johnson

5. Russell Martin

6. Sebastien Bassong

7. Lewis Grabban

8. Jonny Howson

10. Cameron Jerome

11. Gary Hooper

12. Robbie Brady

13. Declan Rudd (GK)

14. Wes Hoolahan

15. Harry Toffolo

17. Elliott Bennett

18. Graham Dorrans

19. Kyle Lafferty

20. Tony Andreu

21. Youssouf Mulumbu

22. Nathan Redmond

23. Martin Olsson

24. Ryan Bennett

26. Michael Turner

27. Alex Tettey

28. Gary O''Neil

29. Ricky van Wolfswinkel

31. Jake Kean (GK)

32. Vadis Odjidja Ofoe

[Guest]

Thing is, the German third tier may be full of loan players from Bayern and the like, so these guys could have been playing top players each week.

[AJ 1,218]

Interesting post Molly, shows so very clearly how much of an overhaul has taken place since relegation. Bearing in mind all 3 of those highlighted players are out of contract at season end and will likely all depart.

[Guest]

Revolving doors at Carrow Road and no coat pegs either.

[Mr Apples 1,317]

Things could be much, much worse than German third tier players...apparently Sunderland want to sign Kyle Lafferty...Apples

[Woodman 92]

No number 9 in that squad Molly? Is that when we signed Oliveira?

[AJ 1,218]

It must have been between Dieumerci Mbokani leaving and Oliveira signing.

[king canary 7,577]

The 15/16 season was the one in the Premier League wasn''t it? So the 9 would have been Mbokani but this is pre Klose/Pinto/Naismith.

[nutty nigel 7,509]

So does nobody know the answer? That''s amazing! I read on here so often about players that are cheap, German AND from the third tier. Kingo''s offered one new one. So how many does that make?

[king canary 7,577]

It is one- the new striker.

Zimmerman was from the German fourth tier so wouldn''t count.

Franke, Hernandez, Vrancic, Steipperman and Leitner were all playing at a higher level.

[nutty nigel 7,509]

Thanks Kingo. Just the one then. And one from the fourth that. Who''d have thought it!

[king canary 7,577]

Yes, the influence of the lower tiers of German football has been somewhat overstated.

[nutty nigel 7,509]

It''s definitely overstated on here. I wonder if the overstaters are ill-informed or ridiculous drama queens...

[Rich T The Biscuit 562]

The reality is.......none of us know whether these signing will turn out well or not.

They want to be here, that for me counts for a lot.

I don’t believe anyone on here is an expert in German football and Farke is he would know what type of players these guys are and what type of people they are, Leitner clearly has the talent but has gone wayward but who had heard of Trybull before he came here?

And let’s be honest, if Srbeny wins one header during a game, it’s one more than Olive manages to achieve 😂

[AJ 1,218]

It''s no different from signing guys like Raggett who many regarded as a ''coup'' or ''great signing.

Zimm is from a similar level and has been immense for us. Yes they are gambles, but no different from gambling on lower league players in the UK - they''re just a damn site cheaper having come from overseas.

[lake district canary 4,531]

The one player from the lower tiers has proved so far to be a real gem of a player in attitude and capability and a player who has taken his chance when he got it.    Farke knew what he was doing getting Zimbo in.