Flakesnow Generation Confirmed

[Big Vince 318]

It just goes to show how soft we have become as a nation since 1945 that it is now generally accepted that a few flakes of snow mean that normal life has to be abandoned.

Suddenly schools are shut and people don''t work; trains, planes, cars and buses don''t work, football head coaches are left tellyless for a week and professional footballers can''t be expected to make a 9am start on a Wednesday.

You now have a Flakesnow Generation that have only ever known mild winters. You only have to go back to the 1980s to see that harsh winters were quite normal and that people went about their normal routines regardless.

Back then, it used to be the case that the condition of the pitch was the only consideration as to whether a match went ahead or not. Now however, our risk averse society has to take into account the roads leading to the ground, the condition of the areas in and around the ground and the general well-being of fans and staff.

It was very telling indeed that the German players and staff were able to make it by 9am on Wednesday, but the British players (with some exceptions) thought that travel in the snow was against their human rights. I find myself in total agreement with the boy Farke''s sentiments on the matter.

Verdict: when the going gets tough the soft get softer.

[JF 694]

Being self employed I tried to make it to work every morning for the last 3 mornings this week and failed each time. It’s got nothing to do with a snowflake generation, it’s more to do with the fucking roads being blocked....

[Rock The Boat 1,323]

In 1963 it started snowing on Boxing Day and we had snow until March. Norfolk was completely cut off. I don''t remember missing school for a single day.

[Rock The Boat 1,323]

[quote user="JF"]Being self employed I tried to make it to work every morning for the last 3 mornings this week and failed each time. It’s got nothing to do with a snowflake generation, it’s more to do with the fucking roads being blocked....[/quote]

I don''t know how far you travel by car but back in the day we used to WALK!

[JF 694]

Rock The Boat wrote the following post at 02/03/2018 4:47 PM:

In 1963 it started snowing on Boxing Day and we had snow until March. Norfolk was completely cut off. I don''t remember missing school for a single day.

We’re you Bonnie Tyler’s inspiration?

[JF 694]

You would walk 30 miles with building tools. Good luck with that one....

[Badger 2,405]

RTB - I don''t know how far you travel by car but back in the day we used to WALK!The modern economy has changed things greatly however. Increased specialisation and concentration has meant that fewer facilities and jobs are in a small radius. We used to have far local shops and facilities and people lived much closer to work - Norwich still had a thriving manufacturing industry back then largely served by the population of North Norwich. Now most people have to drive to work and to the shops etc + to schools etc etc. We have also failed to invest properly in our infrastructure properly for at least 40 years - hence the difficulties when anything goes wrong. Economic efficiency = no spare capacity!

[Guest]

In 1963 it started snowing on Boxing Day and we had snow until March. Norfolk was completely cut off. I don''t remember missing school for a single day.

That, along with the fogs we used to get with everyone burning coal, was something I don''t miss.

That winter was so frozen that I don''t recall ever feeling warm. I used to eat my porridge breakfast sat beside a paraffin heater.

But you are right, I didn''t miss a day off school and I don''t recall my parents not going to work. People used the buses of course as most places didn''t need car parks as not many had cars.

And there are so many self employed people nowadays of course.

[JF 694]

That, along with the fogs we used to get with everyone burning coal, was something I don''t miss.

That winter was so frozen that I don''t recall ever feeling warm. I used to eat my porridge breakfast sat beside a paraffin heater.

But you are right, I didn''t miss a day off school and I don''t recall my parents not going to work. People used the buses of course as most places didn''t need car parks as not many had cars.

And there are so many self employed people nowadays of course.

How far did the teachers and pupils have to travel to get to school? How far did your parents travel to get to work? I traveled 25 of the 30 miles to where I was working this week to be stopped by drifts across the country road and cars stuck in it blocking the way. You can’t drive through snow drifts and cars, it’s nothing to do with generations

[JF 694]

Also in 1963 how man lorries were there on the roads compared to today? I sat in traffic for 3 hours on the a11 at wymondham Wednesday morning thanks to a jack knifed lorry. It’s like comparing football from the 60 to today’s game. Different ball park

[nutty nigel 7,506]

[quote user="Rock The Boat"]In 1963 it started snowing on Boxing Day and we had snow until March. Norfolk was completely cut off. I don''t remember missing school for a single day.[/quote]

My buddy Lapps says exactly the same thing about the 1928 floods.....

[Van wink 2,994]

utty nigel wrote the following post at 02/03/2018 5:43 PM:

Rock The Boat wrote:

In 1963 it started snowing on Boxing Day and we had snow until March. Norfolk was completely cut off. I don''t remember missing school for a single day.

and those outside bogs

[Bill 1,788]

I recall my mother telling me about the winter of 1947 when there was an enormous amount of snow.It affected badly a Scots regiment who were stationed at Stiffkey camp, what with them having to wear kilts and all.... and the snow being waist deep.And my poor grandfather couldn''t do much work either, not that he did much before, though in fairness he did fight with Ritchie and Montgomery out in the desert...

.... argumentative bu gger, he couldn''t get on with anyone.

[Van wink 2,994]

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[Guest]

Also in 1963 how man lorries were there on the roads compared to today? I sat in traffic for 3 hours on the a11 at wymondham Wednesday morning thanks to a jack knifed lorry. It’s like comparing football from the 60 to today’s game. Different ball park

Not having a pop at anyone or anything.

But we do think attitude is very different today.

That is just our opinion.

The fact is in 1963 you had two chances: none and a dogs.

[JF 694]

It’s a completely different world and set of circumstances. It’s nothing to do with attitude

[JF 694]

In fact if I had a fiver for every accident or broken down vechile or jack knifed lorry I saw on my 3 hour 10 mike round trip Wednesday morning I’d have made my days money. Fact is that there is a hell of a lot more traffic on the roads today that’s causing the problems

[JF 694]

Mile not Mike! Bloody predictive text on mobile phones! Wasn’t like that in 1963....

[Van wink 2,994]

JF wrote the following post at 02/03/2018 6:05 PM:

It’s a completely different world and set of circumstances. It’s nothing to do with attitude

Its the same world JF

[JF 694]

Yes the world is clearly the same place today as it was in 1963...

[JF 694]

So how exactly did you heroes of 1963 tackle a 30 mile car journey through snow drifts that have made the roads impassable. and get past jack knifed lorries with literally thousands of motionless cars in front it you in your 1960s cars? I’m all ears!

[Van wink 2,994]

Yep and we still inhabit one tiny bit of it JF, for the hungry and oppressed peoples of Africa for example, the world today is very much the same as it was then. We seem to have elevated ourselves to super human where we should be excused from dealing with the basic challenges of human existence.

[JF 694]

I wasn’t aware that held any relevance to the topic of the thread?

[Van wink 2,994]

You raised the different world point, didn''t you?

[JF 694]

Different world within the circumstances of the topic of this thread. You’ve gone off on one about Africa, according to Bob Geldof they don’t have snow there! It’s been said that this is a generation attitude problem so I’ll ask again, in 1963 how did you heroes undertake a 30 mile car journey past Jake knifed lorries, thousands of motionless cars and impassable roads in your 1960s cars? Because listening to the harping on about back in the day I’d imagine it was a breeze...

[Van wink 2,994]

People were harder, tougher and in many ways more resourceful JF.

[Guest]

And there was you saying it hadn''t anything to do with attitude

[Bill 1,788]

The reality is that most communities were far more self contained than they are now, so travel was not so much a part of most folks lives.The problem we have in this country is that at the first sign of snow, flood or weather caused disruption out come the usual " we can''t cope in this country", "why is it we are not prepared"..... blah blah blahHowever with the advice being given to stay at home where possible, poor old pig mince (OP) has not been to his Day Centre as usual - so without a few hours weaving baskets he is on here all rather over excited. Perhaps when the snow melts away... so will he.

[JF 694]

Van wink wrote the following post at 02/03/2018 6:50 PM:

People were harder, tougher and in many ways more resourceful JF.

And back in reality there just wasn’t anywhere near the amount of people on the roads making a long daily commute. Harder, tougher back in the day five of us would have just picked that lorry up....

[Guest]

Four would have sufficed. We needed five when Millwall came.