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We are looking at Paul Heckingbottom if things go tits up ( thought they already had) Do it now

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Is he likely to come here and play second fiddle under Webber? This set up we have, will rule out the majority of candidates and leave us with options like Farke. Irrelevant anyway as Farke’s position will remain safe unless we look like going down

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If farke goes Webber is in mortal danger his pick his signings and he must have sanctioned tactics. Heckingbottom would be an upgrade he has cut his teeth and deserves his chance at a bigger club

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Honestly don’t know what it would achieve doing this now. We are a hell of a long way off top 6. You could bring Guardiola in tomorrow and we still ain’t going up. We need to just persist with Farke while we coast around mid table and hope we are better next season when Farke has had time to get his ideas bedded in.

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it would achieve a Manager bedded in for next season maybe lifting the players and showing the what can be done if they stick together my worry is the better players Murphy Madision Pinto Klose Pritchard will soon get tired of playing this brand of football and leave

if a new manager could show them better football they may give us another year

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"According to Sunday Sun"yes of course there is no problem with City tapping up another manager.Nor the idea that we don''t actually want you now but we may do in a few months.. or a year, perhapsSo could you be available .. err, just in case ?

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Tettey''s Jig wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 12:15 AM:

Honestly don’t know what it would achieve doing this now. We are a hell of a long way off top 6. You could bring Guardiola in tomorrow and we still ain’t going up. We need to just persist with Farke while we coast around mid table and hope we are better next season when Farke has had time to get his ideas bedded in.

Persisting with Farke does not guarantee coasting around mid table at all? In fact I would suggest current form and results more than suggest a real relegation battle.

Heckingbottom has more than proved himself at Barnsley, losing several senior players (including Watkins) in the summer, he has put together a very young side, (who outplayed Norwich City last week) on a very very limited budget! And no doubt NCFC will have a very very limited budget next season with the current debt of £2. 7m!

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Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 12:49 AM:

wot debt ?

This one:

Norwich City Football Club have released their accounts for the financial year ended June 30, 2017.

Key points of note:

Income down to £75.9m (£100.6m in 2015-16) as a result of a season in the EFL Championship (broadcasting revenue down £18.6m).

Operating loss of £2.6m (operating profit of £14.2m in 2015-16).

Loss after tax of £2.7m (profit after tax of £9.4m in 2015-16).

Loss in the year driven by decreased broadcasting revenue.

As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8m (£2.7m as at 30th June 2016).

Where have you been?!

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FenwayFrank wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 1:05 AM:

There are loads of clubs that would love to have debt of £2.7m

Absolutely, could not agree with you more. And where are they?p now?

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[quote user="City 2nd"]Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 12:49 AM:

wot debt ?

This one:

Norwich City Football Club have released their accounts for the financial year ended June 30, 2017.

Key points of note:

Income down to £75.9m (£100.6m in 2015-16) as a result of a season in the EFL Championship (broadcasting revenue down £18.6m).

Operating loss of £2.6m (operating profit of £14.2m in 2015-16).

Loss after tax of £2.7m (profit after tax of £9.4m in 2015-16).

Loss in the year driven by decreased broadcasting revenue.

As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8m (£2.7m as at 30th June 2016).

Where have you been?![/quote]And no doubt NCFC will have a very very limited budget next season with the current debt of £2. 7m!

As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8mFirstly your figures as of our last accounts are wrongSecondly a bank working capital facility is no more than a facility to allow the club to have working capital for day to day costs to bridge any gaps between income and expenditure - it is not  a liability that we cannot meetThirdly much has happened since 30th June, if only transfer income, lower wage costs , TV and gate money

ps I haven''t been anywhere, just not looking to find something to attack the club with

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[quote user="Rhubarb"][quote user="City 2nd"]Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 12:49 AM:

wot debt ?

This one:

Norwich City Football Club have released their accounts for the financial year ended June 30, 2017.

Key points of note:

Income down to £75.9m (£100.6m in 2015-16) as a result of a season in the EFL Championship (broadcasting revenue down £18.6m).

Operating loss of £2.6m (operating profit of £14.2m in 2015-16).

Loss after tax of £2.7m (profit after tax of £9.4m in 2015-16).

Loss in the year driven by decreased broadcasting revenue.

As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8m (£2.7m as at 30th June 2016).

Where have you been?![/quote]And no doubt NCFC will have a very very limited budget next season with the current debt of £2. 7m!

As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8mFirstly your figures as of our last accounts are wrongSecondly a bank working capital facility is no more than a facility to allow the club to have working capital for day to day costs to bridge any gaps between income and expenditure - it is not  a liability that we cannot meetThirdly much has happened since 30th June, if only transfer income, lower wage costs , TV and gate money

ps I haven''t been anywhere, just not looking to find something to attack the club with[/quote]bless. How do you think things will look next season without parachute payments? Might want to stop the paupers comment before you''re looking a bit silly and we''re signing free transfers...

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Nnice try bin boyHowever the claim was NCFC has £2.7m debt which even at the last accounts was a lie.No one was making projections about next season, however whatever happens to us in between will not alter the fact that our impoverished neighbour are the ''parish paupers''.No ground that is theirs, no training ground that is theirs around 390m in debt, a grubby stadium that is falling apart and a playing squad worth tuppence ha''ppenny So I suggest you a few other farmhands set yourself a mission to try and nick as many charity collection boxes as possible to help bail out your work house club.

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Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 1:19 AM:

City 2nd wrote:

Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 12:49 AM: wot debt ? This one: Norwich City Football Club have released their accounts for the financial year ended June 30, 2017. Key points of note: Income down to £75.9m (£100.6m in 2015-16) as a result of a season in the EFL Championship (broadcasting revenue down £18.6m). Operating loss of £2.6m (operating profit of £14.2m in 2015-16). Loss after tax of £2.7m (profit after tax of £9.4m in 2015-16). Loss in the year driven by decreased broadcasting revenue. As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8m (£2.7m as at 30th June 2016). Where have you been?!

And no doubt NCFC will have a very very limited budget next season with the current debt of £2. 7m!

As at June 30, 2017, external debt, in the form of a bank working capital facility, totalled £1.8m

Firstly your figures as of our last accounts are wrong

Secondly a bank working capital facility is no more than a facility to allow the club to have working capital for day to day costs to bridge any gaps between income and expenditure - it is not a liability that we cannot meet

Thirdly much has happened since 30th June, if only transfer income, lower wage costs , TV and gate money

ps I haven''t been anywhere, just not looking to find something to attack the club with

Actually, these figures dear chap are not mine at all! They were taken in s straight copy from the Official NCFC website. Search it on google and you can view them for yourself!

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I should stop digging if I were youI''m not questioning the figures - just your inability to read them correctlyCheck your claim of the club being £2,7m in debt then check where you got that figure from

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Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 5:56 PM:

I should stop digging if I were you

I''m not questioning the figures - just your inability to read them correctly

Check your claim of the club being £2,7m in debt then check where you got that figure from

You, dear chap, were questioning the figures - which you referred to as “mine”. Just pointing out dearheart that they are the clubs official figures! And to be honest, I don’t really care about the ***** you wish to spout, or the figures. Should the club go down be ask f debt, I don’t look the fool! Apt. rhubarb fool!

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[quote user="City 2nd"]Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 5:56 PM:

I should stop digging if I were you

I''m not questioning the figures - just your inability to read them correctly

Check your claim of the club being £2,7m in debt then check where you got that figure from

You, dear chap, were questioning the figures - which you referred to as “mine”. Just pointing out dearheart that they are the clubs official figures! And to be honest, I don’t really care about the ***** you wish to spout, or the figures. Should the club go down be ask f debt, I don’t look the fool! Apt. rhubarb fool![/quote]The guy is a binner spouting garbage and changing his name when he gets found out

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[quote user="City 2nd"]Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 5:56 PM:

I should stop digging if I were you

I''m not questioning the figures - just your inability to read them correctly

Check your claim of the club being £2,7m in debt then check where you got that figure from

You, dear chap, were questioning the figures - which you referred to as “mine”. Just pointing out dearheart that they are the clubs official figures! And to be honest, I don’t really care about the ***** you wish to spout, or the figures. Should the club go down be ask f debt, I don’t look the fool! Apt. rhubarb fool![/quote]oh dear, you are in a stropa simple apology would have been much easierand the figure is yours, as you chose to post it up (that''s how libel works)so to clarify - you posted up a claim that NCFC were £2.7m in debt - which was not true, as that was the figure for the loss in 2016a loss does not mean a debtI can walk into a casino with £100, loose £20 at the roulette wheel, I am not in debt to that casino as I have already paid them, I am not in any other debt as I still have £80, all that amounts to is that during that period in the casino I lost £20now don''t swear any more or you might scare off you new binner friend, and it does come rather across as if you are angry about being wrong

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Rhubarb wrote the following post at 2017-11-27 5:56 PM:

I should stop digging if I were you

I''m not questioning the figures - just your inability to read them correctly

Check your claim of the club being £2,7m in debt then check where you got that figure from

Dear heart, read your own post and the innuendoes (hope you understand that word) within it! When someone disagrees with you why do you always resort to calling them a binner. Libel indeed! Why would one need to be angry towards an absolute nimcumpoop!

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Careful now City2nd or you will be accused of following him around the messageboard and have your very own Youtube clips posted about you. [:P]

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]The club made a loss last year of £2,747,000. If that''s classed as debt we must owe it to someone. So who is it?[/quote]Can''t believe the ignorance of accountancy on here. Yes we made a loss last year but that is not the same as being in debt. If the Clubs savings, investments and assets are more than £2.7m, and presumably they are, then we are not £2.7m in debt. Most Companies can and do show a loss for a particular year but that has to be taken in context of profits from previous years. Makes me wonder how some people manage to look after their own financial affairs if they can''t tell the difference between profit/loss and debt. They are completely different.8

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[quote user="Making Plans"][quote user="nutty nigel"]The club made a loss last year of £2,747,000. If that''s classed as debt we must owe it to someone. So who is it?[/quote]Can''t believe the ignorance of accountancy on here. Yes we made a loss last year but that is not the same as being in debt. If the Clubs savings, investments and assets are more than £2.7m, and presumably they are, then we are not £2.7m in debt. Most Companies can and do show a loss for a particular year but that has to be taken in context of profits from previous years. Makes me wonder how some people manage to look after their own financial affairs if they can''t tell the difference between profit/loss and debt. They are completely different.8[/quote]Agree completely.Quite how City 2nd thinks that loss is the same as debt is a mystery. It''s many years since I was taught simple arithmetic but as someone on here said if you''ve got £100 and spend £20 you''ve made a £20 loss but it''s not debt ''cos it''s been spent out of money you already had. It''s only debt when that £20 has been borrowed. Not rocket science.

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Not even bog cleaning science...

BTW, I seem to remember a much bigger profit the previous year because we had money set aside for bonuses if we stayed up.

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City 1st mentions £2.7m twice in his post

Once as a loss, and once as a working capital facility. Which I take to mean an overdraft. If that is what it means, then £2.7m overdraft would be a debt owed to the bank.

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Companies that have £m turnovers and make £m profits still have overdraft facilities and loans to help with day to day running of the business. It''s normal business practice and says nothing about a Companies overall financial health.NCFC would still have had an overdraft facility even if they had made a profit last year.

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Agreed, MP. £1.8m working capital overdraft is not a large amount and is only a snapshot of one point in time.

Were there any long-term loans in the accounts?

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