king canary 7,605 Posted December 1, 2017 Farke us getting nothing out of these players. Get rid. Can''t see a single argument for him staying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted December 1, 2017 I can’t see a single one for the one trick pony hanging around either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted December 1, 2017 webber signed the players and sourced Farke!Webber is also responsible. He can go and talk sh!t somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted December 1, 2017 Is he I am not so sure. He brought farke in and sanctioned the transfers in and out. He talks sense about what has happened in the past though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted December 1, 2017 Because the past wasn''t his fault.B*****s to the past! Why isn''t he putting it right now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,745 Posted December 1, 2017 [quote user="Yorkshire Canary"]Is he I am not so sure. He brought farke in and sanctioned the transfers in and out. He talks sense about what has happened in the past though[/quote]Hindsight is an exact science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4th floor 4 Posted December 2, 2017 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="Yorkshire Canary"]Is he I am not so sure. He brought farke in and sanctioned the transfers in and out. He talks sense about what has happened in the past though[/quote]Hindsight is an exact science.[/quote]Except for the owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted December 2, 2017 Webber loves to blame the past, but let’s not forget the money he’s wasted. £3.5 million on Franke - will be ever play again?£5 million on Hanley - many wanted this signing, but overpriced on evidence so far. £2 million on Vrancic £750k on Stiepermann There’s crica £11 million on average players. We could have spent half and got 2/3 more effective players from league one. If we’d not signed any of these players, and kept Godfrey and got Raggot immediately we’d be in no worse position but £11 million richer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Keano 0 Posted December 2, 2017 [quote user="king canary"]Farke us getting nothing out of these players. Get rid. Can''t see a single argument for him staying.[/quote]You can’t afford to sack him? #FARKELIFE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted December 2, 2017 Ah the grown man troll is back! What a great way for an adult to spend their Saturday morning, Trolling on another teams forum...Speaking of debt, what’s yours at now? £75 million, 80, 90? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted December 2, 2017 Also King Keano is a bizarre username. He was a shit manager! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted December 2, 2017 @LincolnYou''ve just made those figures up. Steipperman was a free for a starter. At the AGM wasn''t it said that we''d bought in £19m in transfer fees while spending just over £8m? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,668 Posted December 2, 2017 Youve got to love the Reading fans completely made up figures on our transfer spending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,760 Posted December 2, 2017 At least he got through a post without mentioning Dorrans and Howson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted December 2, 2017 [quote user="king canary"]@LincolnYou''ve just made those figures up. Steipperman was a free for a starter. At the AGM wasn''t it said that we''d bought in £19m in transfer fees while spending just over £8m?[/quote]https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/transfers/spieler/45760/transfer_id/1869234No he wasn’t. And the rest of the fees aren’t made up, do your research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted December 2, 2017 [quote user="Herman"]At least he got through a post without mentioning Dorrans and Howson.[/quote]But you agree we’d have been much better keeping those two than singing Vrancic and Stiepermann? Yes or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted December 2, 2017 [quote user="hogesar"]Youve got to love the Reading fans completely made up figures on our transfer spending.[/quote]It is seriously weird the kick you get out of pretending I’m a Reading fan. Does it soften the current pain of our plight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted December 2, 2017 People seem to be forgetting we''ve given Webber a humongous task.So far he has had to... Overhaul the scouting Overhaul the academy Overhaul the medical department Hugely slash the wage bill (according to the AGM figures its down by nearly £10m a year)Make a profit on player sales (around £10m, again according to the AGM).Some of his signings haven''t been great but I don''t think Farke is getting even close to enough out of them. In Pinto and Hanley we''ve got proven championship defenders yet we''ve looked poor at the back most of the season. In Nelson and Jerome we''ve got strikers who managed 27 goals between them in this league just last season. Under Farke they''ve managed 6 in half a season.Webber has to oversea an entire culture change throughout this club. To end a project that large after 6 months would be crazy. The whole point of a set up like this is that managerial change becomes easier. Farke right now is failing in every aspect of his job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted December 2, 2017 @lincolnYoure right, Steipperman wasn''t a free, my bad. However going on transfermarkt is not doing research, they are guesstimating fees as much as anyone.From the AGM..."Stone also showed exactly how much business was carried out in the transfer market during the summer, generating £17.4m in sales and freeing up £293,000 per week in wages. Those were replaced by £8.1m in fees and £120,000 per week in wages"So unless he''s lying you''re £11m figure is clearly way out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted December 2, 2017 If it wasn''t so terribly sad it would be laughable. Lambert left us in good order on and off the pitch but somehow since then we have problems at the academy no credible scouting network before even going on about all the managerial and playing staff gaffs. The real worry is badly run business go out of business and we cannot have many more chances until the roof comes in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,298 Posted December 2, 2017 That’s interesting, given we made a profit of 8 million in the previous January, 9 million in profit in the summer and still struggling to finance the club with parachute payments.Next year as shown our turnover will be hugely reduced but the likes of Jarvis, Naismith still on our books it’s going to be interesting how much we get for Maddison, Pritchard and Oliviera. Can’t see any other players having the value to sustain the clubs finances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted December 2, 2017 @indyYes, their is financial black hole that has to be filled until we get the wage budget down to less than £20m a year and even then it should probably be smaller. This isn''t Webber''s fault, it lies with ownership who are too stubborn to admit that they don''t have the funds to run a football team at this level anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,760 Posted December 2, 2017 [quote user="lincoln canary "][quote user="Herman"]At least he got through a post without mentioning Dorrans and Howson.[/quote]But you agree we’d have been much better keeping those two than singing Vrancic and Stiepermann? Yes or no?[/quote]I assume that''s what they call a moot point. As they didn''t want to be here we had to replace them anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FCC 76 Posted December 2, 2017 Crap signings, crap players, crap tactics, crap results, crap football.Solution, give the new philosophy longer. I don’t think the players believe in it, or Farke.The sooner Ed gets the Jury back in and gets a real manager in the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites