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Isn''t it sad how modern day sport is just completely ruined by TV money.

I was lucky enough to have been born in 78 and watch Division1 football when, yes there were still big clubs, but every team had a chance of a decent season and finishing up the table. Young players who didn''t make it at the best clubs dropped down to smaller clubs to have a career - they were not millionaires without making an appearance. Don''t get me wrong the standard of the top teams is far higher but it''s become so dull.

Now it is happening to cricket, the ashes have been a shambles. The itinerary just not suited to competitive games but all about money. Have to play a ridiculous number of games in such a short time period. The county game is awful beholden to legacy counties rather than a successful cricket team. This is doubled up with an out of touch ECB appointing and continuing with the concept of a selection panel. Utterly disastrous.

You can start to see the influence of the clubs grow in Rugby too, let''s hope it doesn''t go the same way.

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Yep, those Manchester City fans just hate what money has done to their club. 😏

The days when clubs like ours could compete at the top level are long gone and, in any case, our owners aren''t not going to risk the financial impact of trying to do so.

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Football lost its soul long, long ago. I agree that it is all now just so incredibly dull.

I was flicking through some old Norwich season reviews from the late 80s/early 90s on YouTube and it''s astonishing how much the game has changed since even then. What I''d give to have been watching games back then.

When they decide to make the top league a closed league with no relegation, then it''ll be game over.

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It''s not just sport though, is it? Our whole society is based around the idea that money is ultimately the only yardstick that matters. I read an interesting article recently about how countries used to measure their achievements with multiple metrics - education, poverty, health and so on. Today, all we seem to focus on is income per capita or similar.

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Football is certainly not the great game it once was.Premier League football is like a game of chess, waiting for someone to make a mistake rather than trying to win the game.

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Football needs the bubble to burst so it can remember what it is supposed to be - a competitive sport rather than a business enterprise.

American sports have this so much better than us - salary caps, no transfers for money, only player trades, youth development separate from the clubs...

They benefit from a closed shop though and any chance of these sorts of systems working in football is now long gone.

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@parma

Yes, it''s one of the weirder aspects of their sport. However they do seem to have realised something that football clubs the world over have forgotten - that there is a duty to protect the integrity of the sport and the competition.

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[quote user="king canary"]Football needs the bubble to burst so it can remember what it is supposed to be - a competitive sport rather than a business enterprise.[/quote]And yet so many fans up and down the country yearn for a ''rich investor'' rather than their club being run by local business people in the way they traditionally were.....

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[quote user="king canary"]Football needs the bubble to burst so it can remember what it is supposed to be - a competitive sport rather than a business enterprise.

American sports have this so much better than us - salary caps, no transfers for money, only player trades, youth development separate from the clubs...

They benefit from a closed shop though and any chance of these sorts of systems working in football is now long gone.[/quote]

And yet teams are franchised and moved all over the country.

I''m sure there are plenty of examples of decent morality in sport, I''m not sure the American model is one of them.

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Yes, their system is far from perfect. But what they have in place protects competition, gives every team a hope of winning their respective tournaments and forces teams to rely on good players and coaching rather than just allowing whoever spends the most to win.

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The lack of competition in the Premiership is obvious when of the twenty teams about six of them would consider finishing fifth as failure whereas of the remainder finishing seventeenth is success.

A league of twenty teams that has so few potential winners is not good for football.

Thank goodness for Leicester (even if it was just one season).

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The ''Flying Lizards'' summed it up......oh, and ''Pink Floyd''.......and quite a few others, actually.......Abba, etc, etc, etc.......

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Core Apples, I don''t really actually know?......Does your Buddy Nutty or his big lad know?.....I''m actually from a lot further South of Ashley''s Club, but I do think you, your buddy Nuts and his son''s geography knowledge should be questioned?

Do you know where Surrey is?.......One of our Club Majority shareholder''s from there.....Is Micky Wynn a mackem?....

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Yeah, but I''m sensitive, coz those Geordie fans are stereotyped as being tubby footy shirt wearing thicko types......Oh, hang on a bit, do you know or socialise with any tubby footy shirt wearing types?......Just throwing it out there?.....

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"Yeah, but I''m sensitive, coz those Geordie fans are stereotyped as being tubby footy shirt wearing thicko types".........Well, if the cap fits............................Apples

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I don''t wear a cap, it flattens my hair - but do you socialise with tubby footy shirt wearing types?.......Are you a tubby footy shirt wearing type?......Do you walk sideways.....are you a crab apple?.....

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Mello in answer to your questions: No, No, Yes (when the need arises, but not that often), No.............I hope that has cleared that up...............Apples

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[quote] user="Parma Ham''s gone mouldy"]King,

Do you note the irony of America operating a form of sporting protectionism (aligned with communist principles note) in supposedly the most capitalist country in the world?

Parma[/quote]

I would say that rather than aligning with communist principles the American system in many ways embodies their capitalism. The rules aren''t in place to ensure an egalitarianism on the sporting field but rather to ensure that the owners maximise their profits. They are cabals, not collectives.

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