Samwam27 527 Posted January 4, 2018 http://readnorwich.com/2018/01/04/norwich-linked-jaime-mata/A striker - Now I''d be more excited if this comes off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ec-p 90 Posted January 4, 2018 It''s not that poster that detested Gary Hooper is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted January 4, 2018 But we won''t / don''t want to pay the release clause so not going to be easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted January 4, 2018 Rather have Juan Mata. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted January 4, 2018 J`aime Mata translates as - I love bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted January 4, 2018 @ Molly WindleyJ`aime Mata translates as - I love bushAnd i dislike Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 4, 2018 29 year old who has never played in La Liga. Scoring record is eclectic to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,405 Posted January 4, 2018 I wouldn''t have thought a 29 year old would have fitted our recruitment strategy as I understand it - I thought that we were committed to buying players with a resale value? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted January 4, 2018 Yep not our type 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted January 4, 2018 I''m not saying it about this lad in particular but clearly if you could sign a player who you believed could give you significant benefit in the short term it''s still worth looking at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,656 Posted January 4, 2018 We signed a bit of a journeyman in Grant Holt at a fairly similar age and he worked out ok if memory serves correctly?! I know nothing about this fella or whether we''re interested, but if a guy can come in and do a job it doesn''t really matter what his age is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Year of the tiger 54 Posted January 4, 2018 How old was that fourth division striker we signed in 2009? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 500 Posted January 5, 2018 Wouldn''t take too much notice of anything from "Read Norwich" just rumours regurgitated from elsewhere and if you read their articles it says " The report claims that although a bid is yet to be made for Mata, Norwich are extremely keen to land him. Although the Canaries are said to be unwilling to meet his release clause, they are willing to spend on the experienced striker. "So a nothing story really ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted January 5, 2018 Not that I put any stock whatsoever in this story, but having had a look on the much vaunted youtube montages, as is compulsory for players we are tenuously linked with to make absolute finite judgements on their abilities, I feel well placed to comment [;)]My takeaways were:1) He''s a decent size - 6''1 and a solid frame, seems to be able to hold players off when running with the ball, didn''t see any of him with his back to goal so not sure about his hold up play. He is quick. Not lightning quick, but quick enough not to get caught when he gets in behind.2) He seems to make very intelligent runs and has good movement off the ball. Several of his goals have come from defence splitting passes and him going clean through, which if we hold on to Maddison and Pritchard we are very capable of playing that style of football. That is one element of our game we really lack - we have no ability to hit teams on a quick breakaway at the moment as Nelson doesn''t really make those kind of runs - I can see how Mata would fit into the team if we wanted to play that way. As mentioned in point 1, once he is in behind the defence, he doesn''t seem to get caught often and if he does, he holds the challenge off rather than trying to dance round the defender, he just gets between the defender and the ball and doesn''t let them make a tackle.3) Gets into the box. Sounds stupid point to make for a striker but how many times have we seen Murphy flash a ball across an empty 6 yard box, or have to stop and allow defenders to catch up as no-one is busting a gut to get in the box? This guy gets himself exactly where you''d expect a number 9 to be in those situations and scores a fair few because of it. Very Grant Holt style in that respect.4) He chases lost causes. A couple in the montage were goals that came from him chasing down and dispossessing the keeper or the last defender.5) He''s got a bit of technical ability - one goal that stuck out was a beauty of a chip when he went through one on one with the keeper. Bit like Murphy''s against Arsenal but technique was better. He makes decisions quickly and then goes for it.Overall, it''s hard to comment just from a couple of montages, but I do like the look of him from that - He''s obviously in a hot streak of form at the moment with 16 in 19, but his worst record at any club with 1 in 4 with Girona which isn''t terrible. With his current club he averages a goal every 205 minutes which is decent. The level of the Spanish segunda division is unknown to me so I don''t know how comparable it would be to Championship, how the quality/style of play differs or is similar.etc, and not having seen whole games, it''s hard to know how much he brings to the team, but in terms of the goals he scores he does look like the type of player we are missing up top and would definitely give us a different option to what we have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted January 5, 2018 Youtube montage here for those interested.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVupKLvy11I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted January 5, 2018 [quote user="kick it off"]Youtube montage here for those interested.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVupKLvy11I[/quote]And here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6vGlc0ilN0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MmmmGravy 0 Posted January 5, 2018 Someone''s got a bit ahead of themselves and changed him to a Norwich City player on Wikipedia too... I''d say it''s in the bag... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted January 5, 2018 All I can think watching those clips is what wonderful attacking football - ''look at all those wonderful crosses and through-balls'' - he won''t get any of those here if he does sign up!In Oliveira and Jerome''s defence, a lot of the problem this season is exactly that; we do not create enough goal-scoring opportunities. Don''t put the ball in dangerously near the goal and we don''t score. Simple as that. Oliveira is a fantastic finisher and poacher, but we''ve seen none of that really this season as he keeps having to drop deeper and deeper for the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essjayess 307 Posted January 10, 2018 ReadNorwich are saying City are considering a 1 mill euro (about 900k pounds) bid for Mata. This for a guy who is top scorer in Spainish 2nd teir with 18 in 21 games this season and interesting a host of other clubs. Im sorry but if this story has any credence i dont know why City even bother...900k aint gonna get a striker with that prolific scoring rate, even if it is 2nd teir football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolf Harris 31 Posted January 10, 2018 Thinking behind it, is sell Jerome for 2mil and buy this guy for 900k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 556 Posted January 10, 2018 Smells a lot like all of those players from Italy that we used to be linked to ... we are only being named to drive up his selling price to another Spanish side or he''ll end up with a new contract where he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted January 10, 2018 Well the only problem I’d have is that he’s 29 so if we bring him in we ain’t gonna be able to sell him on for much and if he’s no good we are left with another naismith scenario. At £900k tho or even double that he’s worth a go if the scouting team think he’d do a job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donkey dangler 0 Posted January 11, 2018 Tettey''s Jig:Well the only problem I’d have is that he’s 29 so if we bring him in we ain’t gonna be able to sell him on for much and if he’s no good we are left with another naismith scenario. At £900k tho or even double that he’s worth a go if the scouting team think he’d do a jobSo we have to be careful - do not offer £50,000 a week with a £8.5m transfer fee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 11, 2018 We signed a bit of a journeyman in Grant Holt at a fairly similar age and he worked out ok if memory serves correctly?Correct.However, that was to play in a team that played two up front with a diamond system, and support from that diamond in Hoolahan, even in the Championship.Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essjayess 307 Posted January 11, 2018 [quote user="keelansgrandad"]We signed a bit of a journeyman in Grant Holt at a fairly similar age and he worked out ok if memory serves correctly?Correct.However, that was to play in a team that played two up front with a diamond system, and support from that diamond in Hoolahan, even in the Championship.Big difference.[/quote]Maybe there''s a argument there then not to need to buy any new striker at all, unless its to replace Cam or Ollie should either leave. Thinking about it, Klopp does not employ an out and out striker does he?...seems to rely on his attacking forwards to share the goals around. Maybe that is what Farke is looking to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted January 11, 2018 I think that argument might have just left the building, we’ve just lost one of our midfield players capable and when JM x2 go the midfield goals will dry up!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woodman 92 Posted January 11, 2018 "Maybe there''s a argument there then not to need to buy any new striker at all, unless its to replace Cam or Ollie should either leave. Thinking about it, Klopp does not employ an out and out striker does he?...seems to rely on his attacking forwards to share the goals around. Maybe that is what Farke is looking to do."Interesting... I actually enjoyed the tactical approach v Chelsea, but against Championship teams where we are expected to attack & score, I''m not sure it''d work. Mind you, its so far away from what other Championship teams do, it could work! Sounds like a question for Parma...?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 11, 2018 I thought it worked OK against Chelsea. Worthy of another try I think but who would be the third man?Wes? Have to say he is better at that end of the pitch.Watkins? Maybe he might progress in a fluid role rather than as a support.Everyone else is out on loan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted January 11, 2018 I too liked the ''no striker'' approach against Chelsea, it seemed to fit the overall system better than an uninterested playboy like Nelson playing as a largely immobile 9. Losing AP and Yanic would leave a vacant role alongside Murphy and Maddison - Wes would fit in nicely, but still waiting to see anything remotely decent in Watkins. Vrancic might actually be better in a role that doesn''t require so much grit - he''s a passenger in central mid, but give him a floating role and his distribution and movement might come to the fore. I''d love to see Glen Middleton given a couple of games from the bench, I think he could provide a bit of ''X-factor''. Or Cantwell, perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted January 11, 2018 There is a shed load of negativity flying around this in isolation may not be a bad bit of business Share this post Link to post Share on other sites