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Mark Sampson set to leave as England women's manager

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I''ve always thought he comes across as a massive t***er.

That said the accusations against him do not appear to amount to much in my view even if they were found to be true (which they haven''t).

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If this was the manager of the men''s England team, he would have been given his cards when these allegations came to light. Bit sad that lot''s of the above comments are so belittling towards the women''s game. I hope the truth will out.

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Why would he have been given his cards before anything was even investigated?

To be honest i''m not really convinced that either of the two comments he''s alleged to have made are racist. Insensitive yes. Bad jokes quite possibly. Not convinced they are racist comments or that they make him a racist.

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Looks like allegations have surfaced prior to him being appointed by England from his academy days at Bristol.

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[quote user="TIL 1010"]Looks like allegations have surfaced prior to him being appointed by England from his academy days at Bristol.[/quote]

That would make more sense. Always felt that there must be more to it than the couple of comments the Aluko allegations have focused on.

Anyone know what he''s alleged to have done at Brizzle?

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''Inappropriate relations'' while at Bristol.[url]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/20/mark-sampson-leave-england-womens-manager[/url]

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How ludicrous that the FA says he is to be sacked for inappropriate events prior to the England job but he is free to manage or coach in football, governed by the FA.

How can anyone trust the FA? They are another organisation that hasn''t a clue how to run things properly.

No wonder the Prem clubs wanted to run their own league.

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@jim

I don''t think it really matters if you are convinced. The fact that the players felt the need to raise these comments is a fairly good sign.

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It''s a bit concerning that the Chief Exec of the FA was told of a safeguarding investigation report into the Manager of the England Ladies football team in October 2015 but only chose to read the full transcript last week, particularly as there have been complaints rumbling around for sometime.

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[quote user="KeiranShikari"]Sacked because women can''t into bantz and confidentiality agreements. [/quote]

Great bantz, maybe, if you''re a young white welshman, not so great maybe if you''ve been worried about your family who have been living in fear of contracting a fatal disease.

He sounds like a real class act.

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from reading the guardian article you have to wonder if Due Dilligence was done on Sampson when he replaced Hope Powell in 2013.We will most likely never know what the allegations are, however the FA are pretty clear on whats gone on and have acted.Sampson seemed pretty cocksure of himself during the euros and his while attitude was "we just need to turn up to win" which spilled into the team mindset for the Semi''s vs The Netherlands.Prats like him give us coaches who do work in the female game a bad rep.

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I''m not sure I could work as a ladies team manager if I was a young man. All those temptations would be too hard to resist!

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[quote user="STFU"][quote user="KeiranShikari"]Sacked because women can''t into bantz and confidentiality agreements. [/quote]

Great bantz, maybe, if you''re a young white welshman, not so great maybe if you''ve been worried about your family who have been living in fear of contracting a fatal disease.

He sounds like a real class act.[/quote][Y]

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He''s clearly a tw*t.

And football wise he''s not taking them any further either.

So it all adds up to get rid.

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It''s probably not the job for him if he couldn''t keep his eyes off these women.

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It doesn''t make any sense at all that he isn''t ''ok'' to work for the FA but he is for any other club. The fact is that several investigations (led by women) supposedly cleared the guy. None of us know the ins and outs but it looks like he''s been made a scapegoat as the story just wasn''t going away, whether justified or not.

Whatever, it rather seems that this Aluko player has a huge chip on her shoulder about being left out - just look at her comments when England beat Russia - imo that in a neat nutshell sums up precisely why she''s not been part of the team.

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What seems to be the real reason was alluded to when he was a youth coach. A man has instincts that can be difficult to control in a sport full of emotion and rivalry. It''s a potent brew.

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[quote user="Branston Pickle"]It doesn''t make any sense at all that he isn''t ''ok'' to work for the FA but he is for any other club. The fact is that several investigations (led by women) supposedly cleared the guy. None of us know the ins and outs but it looks like he''s been made a scapegoat as the story just wasn''t going away, whether justified or not.

Whatever, it rather seems that this Aluko player has a huge chip on her shoulder about being left out - just look at her comments when England beat Russia - imo that in a neat nutshell sums up precisely why she''s not been part of the team.[/quote]

No. When a head coach suggests a black player if her family might have Ebola, or wants to know how many times they''ve been arrested, that''s not having a "chip on their shoulder" that''s calling out unacceptable behaviour.

You might need to ask yourself why your reaction to BME people questionning discrimination is termed having a "chip" rather than something amazingly hard to do, given the fire they''ll get

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SwindonCanary wrote the following post at 21/09/2017 7:37 AM:

So he had an affair with a player whilst at Bristol, not the worse crime.

There must be more to it than that Swindon

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[quote user="Van wink"]SwindonCanary wrote the following post at 21/09/2017 7:37 AM:

So he had an affair with a player whilst at Bristol, not the worse crime.

There must be more to it than that Swindon[/quote]

No smoke without fire, eh?   Small incidents, a misplaced word here, a misplaced word there, a silly joke amongst a lot of funny ones, a bit of anger shown, an argument here or there, a player scorned and reacting badly to a comment made, can all be made to paint a bad picture if lumped altogether.  We don''t know the nature of the allegations made at Bristol academy - but nothing illegal we are told - so why has he been sacked?  Because maybe to the FA he was tainted by recent events and they needed to find something they could sack him for - and they did.

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[quote user="Jerzy Krukowski"][quote user="Branston Pickle"]It doesn''t make any sense at all that he isn''t ''ok'' to work for the FA but he is for any other club. The fact is that several investigations (led by women) supposedly cleared the guy. None of us know the ins and outs but it looks like he''s been made a scapegoat as the story just wasn''t going away, whether justified or not.

Whatever, it rather seems that this Aluko player has a huge chip on her shoulder about being left out - just look at her comments when England beat Russia - imo that in a neat nutshell sums up precisely why she''s not been part of the team.[/quote]

No. When a head coach suggests a black player if her family might have Ebola, or wants to know how many times they''ve been arrested, that''s not having a "chip on their shoulder" that''s calling out unacceptable behaviour.

You might need to ask yourself why your reaction to BME people questionning discrimination is termed having a "chip" rather than something amazingly hard to do, given the fire they''ll get[/quote]

...or you could actually read what I said: the chip on her shoulder was about being left out of the side - her tweets as we were beating Russia were very poor.

Your assumptions about my attitude towards BME issues suggests you have prejudices of your own to deal with.

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