Badger 2,389 Posted July 23, 2017 It seems to be a very strong rumour - I know nothing of him.http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/631913/Norwich-Transfer-News-Jake-Clarke-Salter-Chelsea-Loan-Move-Gossiphttp://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/norwich-city-transfer-rumours-canaries-close-to-signing-chelsea-youngster-jake-clarke-salter-1-5118371 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lets be avin you! 0 Posted July 23, 2017 Recognise him from the u20 world cup final, he gave away a dubiously given penalty which was subsequently saved. Must be highly regarded at Chelsea as he has just signed a new long term contract, but surely if we were to sign him would only be as a backup centre back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Flash 13 Posted July 23, 2017 Would probably mean Russ will be used at RB only then, given the number of CHs on the books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,389 Posted July 23, 2017 Played 12 games for Bristol Rovers last year - left footed; 6'' 2" and yes, new 4 year contract and U 20 international. That''s all I could find out. Hopefully someone may know more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,389 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="Jack Flash"]Would probably mean Russ will be used at RB only then, given the number of CHs on the books.[/quote]Needed as an option should we wish to play 3 at the back - bound to get some injuries - as indeed we have now - Klose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishbone 8 Posted July 23, 2017 Would allow Godfrey to cover in midfield. He seems better suited to a box to box / defensive midfield role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 23, 2017 These type of loans provides us with the quality, without the long term financial commitment.he''s played at various levels for England so is no ''hopeful''looks like it is all coming together, with the players coming in perhaps not the ''finished product''but perhaps the better for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,093 Posted July 23, 2017 Wouldn''t see the point of this unless he''s free of charge.We certainly need another in the centre of defence but a more established performer would be better. Apparently Zimmermann is the younger back-up we already have now.Leistner seemed like a great punt for me so hope this rumour hasn''t ruled him out.Such a loan for a striker would make more sense, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 23, 2017 perhaps Klose is off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morisons Prozac 0 Posted July 23, 2017 Perhaps Zimmerman has impressed more than expected in pre-season and will play a bigger role than first thought. Would rather spend more money up top and through the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,701 Posted July 23, 2017 John Terry thinks very highly of him and says he reminds him of himself. Lock up your women then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted July 23, 2017 Bristol Rovers fans seems distinctly unimpressed with him saying he was bullied and was lazy tracking back. Of course Time will tell but rather we took a punt on a lower league centre back with first team experience as back up or signed another first team option so Zimmermann can be back up. Never a fan of loaning in other teams kids unless they are attacking players, defensive players need consistency, something players below 20 rarely bring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted July 23, 2017 I''d hope it''s our final loan if true. Otherwise would be back to square one next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 318 Posted July 23, 2017 How many loans can you have thought it was 2 domestic and 2 overseas? Gunn and Bell already, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari_2 0 Posted July 23, 2017 ^Championship is way more relaxed. you can have like 5 loanees from england in your 11 if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted July 23, 2017 Who''s Bell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splendid Rush 2 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="Yellowbeagle"]Bristol Rovers fans seems distinctly unimpressed with him saying he was bullied and was lazy tracking back. Of course Time will tell but rather we took a punt on a lower league centre back with first team experience as back up or signed another first team option so Zimmermann can be back up. Never a fan of loaning in other teams kids unless they are attacking players, defensive players need consistency, something players below 20 rarely bring.[/quote] Kyle Naughton and Ryan Bertrand did well for us... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="king canary"]I''d hope it''s our final loan if true. Otherwise would be back to square one next season.[/quote]err, that is the ideawe get the quality WITHOUT the commitment of 3 year wage contracts when we don''t know where will will be next seasonhow the hell can we commit to having a large wage bill that we can''t get out off, yet be faced with a £32m drop in income ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Keano 0 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="Barnacle Bill"]These type of loans provides us with the quality, without the long term financial commitment.he''s played at various levels for England so is no ''hopeful''looks like it is all coming together, with the players coming in perhaps not the ''finished product''but perhaps the better for that[/quote]All this money yet another cheap punt on a player with no experience. It''s certainly all going to plan for the paupers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="Splendid Rush"][quote user="Yellowbeagle"]Bristol Rovers fans seems distinctly unimpressed with him saying he was bullied and was lazy tracking back. Of course Time will tell but rather we took a punt on a lower league centre back with first team experience as back up or signed another first team option so Zimmermann can be back up. Never a fan of loaning in other teams kids unless they are attacking players, defensive players need consistency, something players below 20 rarely bring.[/quote] Kyle Naughton and Ryan Bertrand did well for us...[/quote]Kyle Naughton was 22 and had a 40 game season at Sheffield United in the championship and made his premiership debut for Tottenham, it''s hardly the same. Naughton is more akin to the the signing of Reed, a young player now making the jump from promising to established.Granted Ryan Bertrand did well in a poor poor team at full back not in central defence he had also played 30 odd games at league 1 level before playing for us. I''m not saying it was his fault but everyone one that season was pretty poor for too long a periods and it ended in relegation we need to be aiming higher than that. If were going to gamble with the central defence i''d much prefer it was one our own young players like Efete or Godfrey than someone elses, at least we might benefit from the learning experience long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari_2 0 Posted July 23, 2017 I''d say winning a youth world cup is enough experience to give depth to a Championship squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,389 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="KeiranShikari"]I''d say winning a youth world cup is enough experience to give depth to a Championship squad.[/quote]Agree Keiran - I imagine that he will be 4th or 5th choice, unless he does particularly well when called upon. Depth and competition, but I''d have preferred the Arsenal player we were linked with who already has championship experience. But I know nothing - I''ve not seen either of them play![:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spillay 168 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="king canary"]Who''s Bell?[/quote]Haha I thought the exact same thing when I read that.. who that :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,070 Posted July 23, 2017 it is tough one for me if he is 4th 5 th choice then i would prefer one of our youngster to be and around 1st team training maybe a chance If he is going to be used in 1st team then i understand loaning a promising youngster from top team but if he is not playing we could of used the loan somewhere else and use our youth for back up ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,389 Posted July 23, 2017 You have a point NnG, but perhaps they have had a look at our youth and don''t think they are ready yet? Alternatively, they may think that they are better off getting regular football in league 1 or 2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted July 23, 2017 There is no way he''ll be coming on loan to be 4th choice CH in a championship side.This lad was quality when England won the tournament and is clearly highly thought of, they will not give him a big contract and then waste the first year of it.He''s a better CH than some on the books at the moment, albeit with less experience, experience doesn''t give you talent though and this lad has it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,070 Posted July 23, 2017 well if he is that good the loan is worth it and i hope it plays also loans are only good if they get us up into the PL otherwise we might as well given our own players game time but you only find that out at the end of seasonyou have to give yourself the best chance of going up hindsight is wonderful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 23, 2017 [quote user="Rich T The Biscuit"]There is no way he''ll be coming on loan to be 4th choice CH in a championship side.This lad was quality when England won the tournament and is clearly highly thought of, they will not give him a big contract and then waste the first year of it.He''s a better CH than some on the books at the moment, albeit with less experience, experience doesn''t give you talent though and this lad has it.[/quote]Most loans have a requirement of so many games being played by the player - otherwise he might just as well sit on the bench at his home club.There is no indication of the length of the loan either, presuming it is correctCurrently we have Martin/Pinto RBHusband/Toffolo LBZimmerman/Franke/Klose CBso on that basis we have a space for one more CBhowever I''m not too sure that DF wants to have the players sticking rigidly to one position Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,070 Posted July 23, 2017 also wildschut will be used as full back / wing back at times this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted July 24, 2017 With all of the comings and goings the surprise of the close season for me is that so little has been said about Klose who I expected to be first out of the door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites