Jools 584 Posted August 19, 2017 [quote user="Spillay"]Soon as you saw that team selection you just knew. A shambolic display, a coach being too clever for NO bloody reason. Idiot[/quote]Hands up, I didn''t know -- Amazed and disappointed how poor we''ve been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted August 19, 2017 If you have ambitions in this League you cannot afford to have 3 or your best players sitting on the bench.The Villa players would have looked at our team selection and thought right, we can win this.Impetus and initiative given to the opposition before a ball was kicked.Bet Mick McCarthy hasn''t left his best striker kicking his heels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,668 Posted August 19, 2017 Really really poor so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,298 Posted August 19, 2017 My favourite player starts and we look lost, Naismith what a liability, struts round and has zero impact to change the game! Get him off, get Maddison on, get Oliviera on!Utter shite, Naismith, shame you don''t just accept a pay cut and bigger off back up north.Come Farke, you can see you need better players on that pitch........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lharman7 39 Posted August 19, 2017 Stiepermann looks out of position and lost, Martin looks well too slow, Naismith his usual unproductive self and for all his huff and puff Jerome is also unproductive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint 221 Posted August 19, 2017 Exactly, the Nelson situation is a joke, he''s our best forward by a mile and he''s started one match this season. With Pritchard injured, either Wes or Maddison have to start also. It''s not rocket science! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spillay 180 Posted August 19, 2017 [quote user="Making Plans"]If you have ambitions in this League you cannot afford to have 3 or your best players sitting on the bench.The Villa players would have looked at our team selection and thought right, we can win this.Impetus and initiative given to the opposition before a ball was kicked.Bet Mick McCarthy hasn''t left his best striker kicking his heels[/quote]Spot on MP, exactly what I thought, may as well have waved a white flag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nycanary 1 Posted August 19, 2017 Laughable watching Martin and Naismith yelling instructions to the other players. Why would they listen when you two are the worst players on the pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertociNCFC 98 Posted August 19, 2017 Need a kick up the arse for the second half, it''s bad enough that we are losing but it just sounds like we are by far second best in every regard today, sort it out for Farkes sake! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,952 Posted August 19, 2017 Here at VP. This is abysmal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 242 Posted August 19, 2017 Gunny 9, rest of the team 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
he 0 Posted August 19, 2017 2-0. This is unbelievable bad. Absolutely no chance against the on the 24th place in Championship. Tettey is no world class player, but it is strange that he isn''t good enough when players like the useless Naismith plays. Can''t believe how bad this display has been in the first half.Based on this first half there is no signs of this team having any chances of promotion. Totally rubbish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted August 19, 2017 Truly awful. On this evidence we will be fighting at the wrong end of the table. No attacking threat and crap at the back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,668 Posted August 19, 2017 I mean, Vrancic isn''t going to get stuck in but he''s least tried to make things happen with the football.Poor all round but in particular Martin has put us in trouble a couple of times, Zimmerman & Franke have also made a couple mistakes each , Husband has done OK his side.Midfield, Reed has been OK but nothing special, Vrancic like I say is trying to make something happen, Naismith relatively anonymous but running a lot, Stieperman doesn''t seem to know what football is (hopefully just first game nerves). Jerome has worked hard and probably been the best of a poor bunch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted August 19, 2017 Indy, harsh on Naismith, I think he''s easily been better than Steipermann and Vrancic. Our midfield has created fuck all apart from Murphy''s one run and cross. Nothing else to report, and definitely no goal scoring chances created. They move the ball around like a hot potato.Not really a surprise when you''ve taken your best two craftsman, Wes and Maddison, out of the team.As for the defending, different week, same problems. I love the man, but Russ has been awful today, ball watching for both goals and some terrible decisions and passes leaving us exposed. Not good enough.2nd best all over, and rightfully 2-0 down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tumbleweed 106 Posted August 19, 2017 But would Naismith and Jerome off make any difference? Sounds like the issues are at the back and down the flanks? Early days for the Farke regime but this does sound rather alarming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted August 19, 2017 Would be interesting to know where the posters earlier in the thread, who fully understood the team selection and thought it was a good starting XI, have suddenly disappeared to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted August 19, 2017 Have sat through some embarrassing performances here. The no show in our relegation season, the dismal effort of last season but this simply takes the biscuit. Special mentions to Martin and our defensive coach. Could easily be 6 down except for Gunn. Completely shambolic first half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 527 Posted August 19, 2017 I know games come thick and fast but you have to play your best and in form players.Farke needs to learn quickly that Naismith is just a journeyman and adds very little (never has, never will), and with Wes'' age, and Maddisons youth, we shuld be rotating both, not leaving both out.And everyone knows NO is our main threat for goals. Two in two games is categorical evidence, yet doesn''t start. Wearimng teams down with Jerome isn''t going to work if a) Jerome can''t score (and only managed against Swindon) and b) if your defense is going to keep leaking soft goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted August 19, 2017 That first half had relegation battle all over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted August 19, 2017 Calm down everyone -- we could get a point out of this if Oliveira & Maddison comes on early enough second-half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted August 19, 2017 Actually Reed has put us in trouble more often than RM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 242 Posted August 19, 2017 Worst I have seen since the Roeder era Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,298 Posted August 19, 2017 AJ, the issue is Naismith starts means Maddison or Wes or both don''t! He''s got to be our best player every time to justify his 40k a week, it''s little wonder two starts by Naismith and we lost to Sunderland and now losing by two to Villa!Utter rubbish and had we paid the same for Naismith as we did for Vrancic he''d not be in our squad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vlad666 203 Posted August 19, 2017 Two slow centre backs flanked by two slow full backs. What were we expecting?? The recruitment isn''t looking very good at the minute. Are husband, Franke and Zimmerman up to this standard? If this season goes pearshaped then the board have run out of lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 19, 2017 Manager has the team completely wrong today. Bruce must have been grinning from nostril to nostril today when he saw no wes, no maddison, no pinto and no Oliveira. seems we are pretending we are the Chelsea of the championship where we can drop half our best players and still win. what the hell was Farke thinking dropping Oliveira I''ll never know, he is streets ahead of Jerome at the moment.As for Russell martin, great servant but we need to move on from him, he''s simply not good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted August 19, 2017 And no subs!One idiot manager goes out and another idiot manager comes in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertociNCFC 98 Posted August 19, 2017 Lets hope he gave one hell of a team talk if no changes are made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted August 19, 2017 So we''ve had a bad first half......sh*t happens. Same team to see if they can redeem themselves. Come on you yellows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites