lappinitup 629 Posted June 20, 2017 [quote user="Donkey dangler"]Managed the club well?I dont think the signing of the following indicate that:JarvisVooLaffertyAndreauMcGovernWindschutNaismith - paid too muchWolfswinkel[/quote]Let''s try a little balance Tangy........Redmond - bought for £3m, sold for £11m.Lewis Grabbon - bought for £3m, sold back to Bournemouth for £8m.Bradley Johnson - free, sold for £6m.Robert Snodgrass - bought for £3m, sold for £7m.Martin Ollson - bought for £2.5m, sold for £5m. Of course, mentioning these wouldn''t fit in with your agenda would it?I''m sure all clubs have successful and unsuccessful signings and can only be judged with hindsight. To only list those didn''t work out (so far) is a feeble effort, even for you.[:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,745 Posted June 20, 2017 Not forgetting of course a tidy few million profit on Brady who was here for just over a season Lapps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donkey dangler 0 Posted June 22, 2017 Lappin,Given the limited resources this club has its important that it learns some lessons. Why oh why do we continue to sign injury prone players? They are expensive and poor value, e.g., VOO and Jarvis.Why do we sign players that hardly play? Expensive and poor value for money, e.g., Andreau, Lafferty and may be Windshult is about to join this listWhy do we overpay for old players? Again expensive and poor value for money, e.g., NaismithWe make the odd profit on some players but what is the point of pouring money down the drain? The club is not getting stronger by doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7rew 0 Posted June 22, 2017 Why do we sign injury prone players? Because, like Anthony Pilkington, sometimes they don''t stay injury prone with an environment change and you get a player cheaper than they are worth. It is a question of risk/reward, both of which can be higher with a poor injury record.Also Vadis wasn''t injury prone until he got here, he just got a really bad injury playing for us early on and never really recovered. Even not previously injury prone players can become that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donkey dangler 0 Posted June 22, 2017 Pilkington''s appearance record:2009 - 10 49 apps 7 goals2010 -11 38 apps 12 goals2011 - 12 32 apps 8 goals2012 -13 33 apps 5 goals2013 - 14 17 apps 2 goals2014 - 15 21 apps 1 goal2015 - 16 41 apps 9 goals2016 - 17 36 apps 8 goalsPilkington seems to be playing for Cardiff ok.As for VOO somebody posted on this site that it was known in Belgium that he was injury prone......2014 - 15 8 apps 0 goals2015 - 16 9 apps 1 goalIf he''s not in the injury prone category then he''s a candidate for the Andreau, Lafferty category. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted June 22, 2017 "Why oh why do we continue to sign injury prone players"Howson was injured when we bought him. Who was to say he wouldn''t become a ''sicknote''?"Why do we sign players that hardly play?"Because, like most other clubs, we run with a squad of around twenty five players and they can''t all play."Why do we overpay for old players? Again expensive and poor value for money, e.g., Naismith."For someone who used to have a tagline "Where are the good experienced strikers?", I''m surprised you even asked this question. If we had avoided relegation it would have been seen as a masterstroke, but unfortunately it didn''t work out that way.As for Delia''s "Order of the Companion of Honour", you should be given an OCH too.......Old Cantankerous with Hindsight. [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,533 Posted June 23, 2017 [quote user="Donkey dangler"][quote user="Horse Renoir"] Without PP we''d have something like the 3/4/5th smallest budget in this division. [/quote]No we wouldnt I would have thought that the following clubs would have smaller budgets than us:Burton AlbionIpswich TownBarnsleyPNEBrentfordPossibly CardiffSheffield UnitedBoltonMillwall[/quote]Why would they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites