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[quote user="ABC"]From the list presented: Blow all your money on gambling - kids go hungry Blow all your money on alcohol - kids go hungry Blow all your money on hookers - kids go hungry Blow all your money on fancy clothes - kids go hungry Blow all your money on whatever - kids go hungry It''s only the 1st 2 items which are addictions, and if you include smoking, those three do have regulations surrounding them regarding what is and isn''t permitted. If it was all so innocent, why have any regulations at all? There is a responsibility on society to try and provide a safe and decent environment for children and the vulnerable to be brought up in. Where do we stop, gambling adverts on (or even inside) school buses? Bonga wonga type cash lending sponsoring school outings? ....and the list could go on. I have spent many a happy hour in the pursuit of a bit of gambling fun, whether it be in a bookies for a punt on the Grand National or in the more plush surroundings of a casino. However, I''m not comfortable with the way that these adverts  sponsorships have become so ubiquitous within football. However, I respect everyone''s right to have their own opinion. There are a number of valid points on both sides of the argument that have been raised, so far be it for me to judge. It is purely my humble opinion.[/quote]

 

I agree - it''s the addictive bit which is the problem for me & the fact that it''s built into their business model.  Which is defo items 1& 2.  Not sure about 3 - I''d have to think about what to do if we''re sponsored by Hookers ''R'' Us.

 

Here''s a link to an article I''ve posted on another thread by mistake about slot machines and how they''ve made them more addictive, including a quote from one of the interviewees about online gambling : "You know how you get people younger to gamble? Hand them a f*****g telephone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/6/8544303/casino-slot-machine-gambling-addiction-psychology-mobile-games

 

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http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/norwich-city-assures-fans-it-will-work-with-closely-with-gambling-addiction-charity-after-announcing-leovegas-sponsorship-deal-1-5081345A very good "open letter " from a fan to the club in the attached article (sorry no clicky) worth a read, personally have no problem with a gambling company sponsoring, but the letter puts another perspective on it.

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All that letter shows me is that there will always be people out there who are utterly unable to exercise a sensible level of self-control, but rather than accept that this is their own failing, they instead look for others to blame. "It was the nasty gambling company and their horrible free £10 bet that caused me to go bankrupt", seriously??? Just f**k off.What''s next "The pub gave me 2 free pints as their 10,000th customer, it''s their fault that I now drink 4 litres of Vodka a day"?How about "I won a free Big Mac meal during a McDonald''s Monopoly promotion, I''m now 57 stone and eat 17 big mac''s a day, it''s all their fault"FFS, man up and accept responsibility for what YOU have chosen to do, rather than playing the blame game.Having LeoVegas as our sponsor won''t make me suddenly start gambling online and losing thousands by this time next year, just like having Fosters back on the shirts wouldn''t make me spend the next 12 months in a state of permanent inebriation, and just like how having Aviva on our shirts didn''t make me use them for insurance either.On the drive to pick my wife up from work, I must have seen 30+ different adverts, be this on billboards, bus shelters or the sides of buildings, and guess what? I haven''t gone and immediately bought ANY of their products or services - I actually still have my own mind despite all this blatant temptation on offer...what a shocker!But hey, that''s modern society for you, nobody wants to admit that THEY made a mistake or that something that happened is THEIR fault (you trip over a paving stone - it''s the councils fault for it being half an inch raised rather than your own for not even looking where you are walking etc), thus the blame game gets played whilst the one actually responsible can sit there in a comfy bubble whilst everyone else takes the stick for their screw up...

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[quote user="Indy_Bones"]All that letter shows me is that there will always be people out there who are utterly unable to exercise a sensible level of self-control, but rather than accept that this is their own failing, they instead look for others to blame. "It was the nasty gambling company and their horrible free £10 bet that caused me to go bankrupt", seriously??? Just f**k off.What''s next "The pub gave me 2 free pints as their 10,000th customer, it''s their fault that I now drink 4 litres of Vodka a day"?How about "I won a free Big Mac meal during a McDonald''s Monopoly promotion, I''m now 57 stone and eat 17 big mac''s a day, it''s all their fault"FFS, man up and accept responsibility for what YOU have chosen to do, rather than playing the blame game.Having LeoVegas as our sponsor won''t make me suddenly start gambling online and losing thousands by this time next year, just like having Fosters back on the shirts wouldn''t make me spend the next 12 months in a state of permanent inebriation, and just like how having Aviva on our shirts didn''t make me use them for insurance either.On the drive to pick my wife up from work, I must have seen 30+ different adverts, be this on billboards, bus shelters or the sides of buildings, and guess what? I haven''t gone and immediately bought ANY of their products or services - I actually still have my own mind despite all this blatant temptation on offer...what a shocker!But hey, that''s modern society for you, nobody wants to admit that THEY made a mistake or that something that happened is THEIR fault (you trip over a paving stone - it''s the councils fault for it being half an inch raised rather than your own for not even looking where you are walking etc), thus the blame game gets played whilst the one actually responsible can sit there in a comfy bubble whilst everyone else takes the stick for their screw up...[/quote]

And again....This.

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Agree with Indy_Bones and in any case I''m sure all the hand-wringing will stop if we start the season well...Apples

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I''m confused why people think the club should suffer because they as individuals have addictions due to a lack of self-control?
Maybe if they hadn''t gambled all their money away they could have stumped up the cash to sponsor us themselves....

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I haven''t read all through, so this may have been mentioned, but it does strike me as strange that the club should do a sponsorship deal with such a company, given that the intended effect has to be to promote and encourage gambling, and  then say it will work with an anti-gambling charity to alleviate any resultant problems.

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well Purple its another club mess up we get money to sponsor us then have to give money to a charity as the club now feel bad !

i do not know how much it is to be main sponsor of the club

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or how many companies even wanted to sponsor us ??

so maybe that''s harsh saying a mess up they might be paying us double we might have got from a insurance company so called better profile company

until you know how many companies or what others were willing to pay us hard to say if its a good deal or not

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hogesar wrote:

I''m confused why people think the club should suffer because they as individuals have addictions due to a lack of self-control?

Maybe if they hadn''t gambled all their money away they could have stumped up the cash to sponsor us themselves....

Some may respond by saying that if the club hadn''t gambled all their money away on various players and their contracts we wouldn''t have to be knocking on the doors of gambling sponsors ;-) just saying......

However, to try and appease the self righteous, I am not advocating that people should not be responsible for their own actions and the consequences thereof. I have tried to point out that an insidious by-product of gambling is that the innocent often suffer. There are those in our society who are easily influenced (some to a larger extent than others) by the views and actions of celebrities and their sporting heroes.

As I said in earlier posts, I am not comfortable with having a gambling company as a sponsor and have given my reasons for my discomfort. I have not sought to attack the morals or detract from the pleasures of anyone who does enjoy a flutter.

BTW it appears that the majority of supporters are against the principle of this sponsorship - if this topic wasn''t such a big concern, why would the club''s top brass be assuring the public that they will be working closely with leading charity GambleAware throughout the course of the sponsorship?

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[quote user="ABC A Basingstoke Canary"] if this topic wasn''t such a big concern, why would the club''s top brass be assuring the public that they will be working closely with leading charity GambleAware throughout the course of the sponsorship?[/quote]If this topic was such a big concern for the top brass, why would they even accept the deal to begin with...The only reason they''ve said they''re going to work with GambleAware is to ease the mind of people who happen to think that a simple flutter on the Grand National or the FA cup final will lead to a lifetime of addiction and financial destitution (which it absolutely won''t for 99.9% of people).

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Indy_Bones wrote:

"If this topic was such a big concern for the top brass, why would they even accept the deal to begin with..."

Maybe because they didn''t imagine that the fall out would be so negative?

Gambling is addictive - and trying to promote an addiction on the front of a team''s football jersey does not represent a responsible approach to a "family" club. But then again, that is only my opinion........

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I don''t really care about who our sponsor is and I generally subscribe to the line that people need to take responsibility for their own actions rather than blaming the fact such gaming companies exist.

However I have little doubt that many of those bleating over this sponsorship deal are also fans who tells us how lucky we are to have Delia and MWJ as our owners and to be pursuing such an admirable "self-funding" model. The only problem with that of course is that you have to take every penny you can get and cannot afford to be picky about who your sponsors are!

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[quote user="ABC A Basingstoke Canary"]Gambling is addictive - and trying to promote an addiction on the front of a team''s football jersey does not represent a responsible approach to a "family" club.[/quote]Let me fix that for you - Gambling is addictive to SOME people, the vast majority of people are perfectly able to place a bet here and there, or have a play on a fruit machine without turning into a gambling addict.Why are some posters trying to represent a view that gambling causes an almost guaranteed addiction to it, and that by simply having a logo on a shirt, suddenly the population of Norwich (and any exiled fans) are going to turn into gambling addicts overnight because of it???Nobody forces you to bet, in fact, let me re-iterate that in big letters - NOBODY FORCES YOU TO BET!Until such time as it becomes mandatory for Norwich supporters who have bought the shirt to actually place bets as a contractual obligation, it''s a load of hoo-ha about nothing.I bet (see what I did there?) that if some uber rich casino owner wanted to takeover the club and invest billions into the ground and playing staff, we''d have less of an outcry than we are doing about a bloody shirt sponsor!

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"Why are some posters trying to represent a view that gambling causes an almost guaranteed addiction to it, and that by simply having a logo on a shirt, suddenly the population of Norwich (and any exiled fans) are going to turn into gambling addicts overnight because of it??"

That argument sounds mental. Which is why precisely nobody is making it.

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Perhaps the EFL should consider banning the advertising of sponsorship and having all teams play in the same dark green kit with pictures of the dangers of football placed prominently on the shirts. Well, it''s stopped smoking hasn''t it?Or we could just be sponsored by the Salvation Army.Apples

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You need''nt worry lads,

Looking at LeoVegas''s website and its appalling, so are their prices, nae chance of anyone getting hooked on there.

Carry on as before?

Seriously, I didn''t have insurance from Aviva, a phone from Phones4U, never flown Flybe, cant stand Colmans mustard, dont drive a Lotus/Proton, not got any accounts with Norwich and Peterborough and I''m sure as 5hit not going to start betting with LeoVegas!

Its just a name on a shirt, get over it. Christ the whole leagues sponsored by Skybet!!

Now where did I put them Fosters?

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I make quite a decent amount of money out of these companies but they are utter scum. They prey on the punters that lose and punish those that win. I''ve been banned by bet365, betbright, betfred, totesport, betway, and boylesports to name a few. I tend to just use the exchanges now and it''s a shame that more people who gamble don''t do the same. But having said that I can see no reason why the club shouldn''t take their money as there sre gambling adverts everywhere you look.

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