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Norwich line up new shirt sponsor? Does that mean the design team won''t be making the same mistake as a couple of years ago with that now infamous Tetris shirt design thanks to the Aviva logo?

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Bloody Swedes, coming over here, sponsoring our football club. Welcome LeoVegas. No, I still won''t be using your product though.

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[quote user="ABC A Basingstoke Canary"]I''m kinda with Herman on this one

Don''t really like the idea of promoting gambling.[/quote]Has society really got to the stage where people can''t take responsibility for their own actions, and make their own mind up, instead of blaming it on video games, adverts, tv/movies or whatever???As a child I used to laugh at the ''Hamlet'' adverts for cigars, and it certainly didn''t turn me into a cigar smoking fiend.Nobody forces anyone to gamble, just like they don''t force them to drink 25 pints, yet nobody would bat an eyelid if we had ''Fosters'' on our shirts again, or if teams have brands like ''Carlsberg'' on their shirt, yet mention a betting firm and suddenly people start trying to take the moral high ground and claiming it''s somehow morally reprehensible to advertise their services and that it''s causing people to become gambling addicts, which is utter nonsense.Despite all the BS claims for years, playing things like Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto doesn''t turn someone into a bullet crazed nutter who becomes obsessed with violence (there is now very clear scientific evidence to prove this). Putting a picture of a beer on the side of a bus won''t turn someone into an alcoholic, and advertising betting firms on football shirts won''t turn people into gambling addicts either.Won''t be much longer now until we get the authorised lists of what we''re allowed to say, do and think published, and then we can truly epitomise the blame culture that is destroying modern society, along with political correctness and numerous other ridiculous changes of the same ilk...

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There is an issue that it is far too easy to blow a fortune nowadays in ways that didn''t exist only a couple of years ago - imo there needs to be a hell of a lot more regulation than there currently is, but ultimately people do have to take responsibility for what they get up to.

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I might actually give them a try ... especially if there are one or two worthwhile introductory offers.

(Well us plastics have to support the club in whatever oblique ways we can.)

I usually use Sky Bet but had a decent win on their site recently and my experience tells me that a decent win is usually followed by one or two indecent losses.

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They would seem to be in a different league altogether than the coffee compamy.

From Wiki:-

"Leovegas was founded in 2011 by Gustaf Hagman (Group CEO) and Robin Ramm-Ericson (Chairman of the Board & CXO) with the vision to create the ultimate mobile gaming experience and be number one in mobile casino.

LeoVegas has experienced rapid growth due to the overriding increase of smartphone use and a “mobile first” mentality of its founders. Gustaf Hagman stated that the company "was born out of the smartphone, which today is the fastest growing channel for entertainment."

The initial stock market offering of the company took place on 17 March 2016. Financial advisers in the transaction were Carnegie Investment Bank and SEB, as Joint Global Coordinators and Book-runners. Legal advisers were Baker McKenzie while Avanza Bank AB was appointed as LeoVegas'' certified adviser. At the time of the initial listing of the company stock was heavily oversubscribed.

In advance of the initial public offering (IPO) LeoVegas announced a 124% increase in annual revenue of €83m for 2015 compared to €37m 2014. Depositing customers for both years and 2013 were as follows; 54,283 (2013), 100, 745 (2014), 202,498 (2015).[5]

On 13 May 2016, one month before the UEFA Euro 2016 football tournament, LeoVegas launched its sports betting product LeoVegas Sport. At the time of launch, CEO of LeoVegas Gaming Ltd. Johan Styren stated that fast loading speeds and the mobile-first approach would be integral to growth in the live betting market for mobile."

Let''s hope it''s a profitable partnership for both parties then.

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Don''t think you really got the game then Indy having watched the hamlet advert . May not of got you smoking but no one spends millions not to get bites.

How many gambling companies now partner football

teams ? Obviously it works and not from people joining , taking the welcome bonus and spending £10 a month. A steady percentage become addicts and that''s what pays for days like these .

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Indy_Bones:

Whilst I accept that people have to take responsibility for their own actions, and make their own mind up, instead of blaming it on video games, adverts, tv/movies or whatever???

However, there is also the effect that it has on the innocent - and when you see kids go hungry, dressed in "hand-me downs" from other kids, and their embarrassment of not being able to "join in" with their peers, whether it be for a McD, cinema or anything else, all because one (or even both) parents are addicted to gambling. There is no obvious or immediate stigma to the gambler - they don''t slur their words, don''t stagger about in some kind of drunken or even drug crazed stupor, and in the most part, they look and dress respectably enough not to draw attention to themselves.

So, yes I agree, there is too much of a nanny state about us today and PC has gone mad. But, as much as I liked the Hamlet adverts, and the "sophistication" surrounding a Rothman''s International or even the thrill of seeing the black and gold JPS livery on a sleek F1 Lotus, I believe that common sense has prevailed by no longer glamourising tobacco products.

Unfortunately, as I said, it''s not about the individual''s actions, but the knock on effect it has on their families. Gambling is an addiction and like Alcoholics Anonymous is there for Alcoholics, so Gamblers Anonymous is there for Gamblers.

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Oh dear!

I really hope that the slightly unwholesome business our sponsors are involved in doesn''t bring a modern day Oliver''s army (the Puritans) out in force as they tended to live other people''s lives better than they did their own.

For the most part online gambling is harmless and the bottom line is that it would not be the success it is if people did not want to indulge in the first place.

(Having mistakenly clicked on the link above this one this little gem originally appeared on the EU thread, which is difficult to avoid as ever and ever and ever. It seems to have fitted in quite well.)

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I''m no puritan and am happy to have the odd bet here and there. However I don''t like the ubiquity of gambling adverts in football.

This article on the subject was pretty good- http://www.football365.com/news/footballs-gambling-problem-you-better-you-better-you-bet

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Sorry WCC. Of course you make good points, but wouldn''t some sort of ban on gambling adverts be just another example of attempting to restrict the activities of the many because of the actions/vulnerability of the few.

That seems to be the the way of all governments for the last few decades. Some call it nanny-statesmanship. I call it annoying.

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Surely KC sponsors target their audience in order to make it worthwhile in the first place?

I don''t suppose the makers of Hovis, Horlicks or Fairy Liquid are lining up to sponsor football clubs.

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[quote user="ABC A Basingstoke Canary"]Unfortunately, as I said, it''s not about the individual''s actions, but the knock on effect it has on their families.[/quote]Actually it IS about the individual''s actions, because without them, the knock on effect it causes wouldn''t exist.Blow all your money on gambling - kids go hungryBlow all your money on alcohol - kids go hungryBlow all your money on hookers - kids go hungryBlow all your money on fancy clothes - kids go hungryBlow all your money on whatever - kids go hungryEach choice leads to the exact same end result, yet I don''t see anyone complaining about the likes of Gucci or Armani and claiming that their adverts promote an uncontrollable addiction to fashion spending (and apparently this is also a real ''addiction'' faced by some).People need to accept responsibility for their own choices, rather than blaming it on (and demonising) things like advertising.[quote user="BroadstairsR"]Surely KC sponsors target their audience in order to make it worthwhile in the first place?

I don''t suppose the makers of Hovis, Horlicks or Fairy Liquid are lining up to sponsor football clubs.[/quote]Why not?We''re

being told that apparently this form of marketing is highly successful

to the point where people are completely unable to control their own

actions anymore, so surely Hovis would want someone to develop an

addiction to 16 loaves of bread per day...?

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[quote user="Indy_Bones"][quote user="ABC A Basingstoke Canary"]I''m kinda with Herman on this one

Don''t really like the idea of promoting gambling.[/quote]Has society really got to the stage where people can''t take responsibility for their own actions, and make their own mind up, instead of blaming it on video games, adverts, tv/movies or whatever???As a child I used to laugh at the ''Hamlet'' adverts for cigars, and it certainly didn''t turn me into a cigar smoking fiend.Nobody forces anyone to gamble, just like they don''t force them to drink 25 pints, yet nobody would bat an eyelid if we had ''Fosters'' on our shirts again, or if teams have brands like ''Carlsberg'' on their shirt, yet mention a betting firm and suddenly people start trying to take the moral high ground and claiming it''s somehow morally reprehensible to advertise their services and that it''s causing people to become gambling addicts, which is utter nonsense.Despite all the BS claims for years, playing things like Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto doesn''t turn someone into a bullet crazed nutter who becomes obsessed with violence (there is now very clear scientific evidence to prove this). Putting a picture of a beer on the side of a bus won''t turn someone into an alcoholic, and advertising betting firms on football shirts won''t turn people into gambling addicts either.Won''t be much longer now until we get the authorised lists of what we''re allowed to say, do and think published, and then we can truly epitomise the blame culture that is destroying modern society, along with political correctness and numerous other ridiculous changes of the same ilk...[/quote]

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[quote user="Indy_Bones"][quote user="ABC A Basingstoke Canary"]Unfortunately, as I said, it''s not about the individual''s actions, but the knock on effect it has on their families.[/quote]Actually it IS about the individual''s actions, because without them, the knock on effect it causes wouldn''t exist.Blow all your money on gambling - kids go hungryBlow all your money on alcohol - kids go hungryBlow all your money on hookers - kids go hungryBlow all your money on fancy clothes - kids go hungryBlow all your money on whatever - kids go hungryEach choice leads to the exact same end result, yet I don''t see anyone complaining about the likes of Gucci or Armani and claiming that their adverts promote an uncontrollable addiction to fashion spending (and apparently this is also a real ''addiction'' faced by some).People need to accept responsibility for their own choices, rather than blaming it on (and demonising) things like advertising.[quote user="BroadstairsR"]Surely KC sponsors target their audience in order to make it worthwhile in the first place?

I don''t suppose the makers of Hovis, Horlicks or Fairy Liquid are lining up to sponsor football clubs.[/quote]Why not?We''re

being told that apparently this form of marketing is highly successful

to the point where people are completely unable to control their own

actions anymore, so surely Hovis would want someone to develop an

addiction to 16 loaves of bread per day...?

[/quote]

And this.

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From the list presented:

Blow all your money on gambling - kids go hungry

Blow all your money on alcohol - kids go hungry

Blow all your money on hookers - kids go hungry

Blow all your money on fancy clothes - kids go hungry

Blow all your money on whatever - kids go hungry

It''s only the 1st 2 items which are addictions, and if you include smoking, those three do have regulations surrounding them regarding what is and isn''t permitted.

If it was all so innocent, why have any regulations at all?

There is a responsibility on society to try and provide a safe and decent environment for children and the vulnerable to be brought up in.

Where do we stop, gambling adverts on (or even inside) school buses? Bonga wonga type cash lending sponsoring school outings? ....and the list could go on.

I have spent many a happy hour in the pursuit of a bit of gambling fun, whether it be in a bookies for a punt on the Grand National or in the more plush surroundings of a casino. However, I''m not comfortable with the way that these adverts / sponsorships have become so ubiquitous within football.

However, I respect everyone''s right to have their own opinion. There are a number of valid points on both sides of the argument that have been raised, so far be it for me to judge. It is purely my humble opinion.

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[quote user="Indy_Bones"]Blow all your money on gambling - kids go hungryBlow all your money on alcohol - kids go hungryBlow all your money on hookers - kids go hungryBlow all your money on fancy clothes - kids go hungryBlow all your money on whatever - kids go hungry[/quote]My old man did all of those things but we always had plenty to eat - mind you, he was pretty good at shoplifting. [:D]

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