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Parama''s Swansea example is exactly an example of what I described in my post on page 3 regarding the importance of protecting a club''s culture, which is very often lost when new owners come in who aren''t familiar with it and don''t respect it.

There''s an article in the Guardian form a few weeks back describing the exact same thing as happening at Swansea happening at Palace after their American takeover.

Thing is, the club COULD still be successful and may then forge its own, new identity, but which will have very little to do with the club''s history and culture. Man City would be a good example of that. I have a friend who was a huge City fan from the Maine Road days, Sumerbee and Peter Reid etc... that has basically been erased now and what you have now is a completely new global identity. Said friend has completely lost interest and no longer even follows football. Some fans might be happy with that if it brings with it success but their history has essentially been forgotten and swept aside. That''s the good outcome.

For the bad outcome, where a new owner comes in and doesn''t manage to be successful, just look at who got relegated from league two today to see where it ends. That situation is an utter catastrophe and I feel desperately for the fans of that club, I really do. I don''t care who you are, no fans deserve that to happen to their club. Not even the scummers.

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Are failing because it''s all the fan''s fault.......

Mr Webber? Does he actually think it''s the fan''s fault for turning up week in and week out in their droves - sticking with the club through thick an'' thin that are the root cause for us currently underachieving?

I bet Mr Webber fuggin doesn''t!.......He''s probably quietly going about his business in earmarking and weeding out the cosy charlatans, shysters and the stagnant and stale staff......I also actually do wonder what he really thinks when he looks at the current board members that ''attracted'' him to this club........and what they actually contribute and bring to the club and boardroom table? Is it cronyism and nepotism and a Directorship who are snug, smug and cosy wearing their "can''t touch us" fluffy carpet slippers safely shoved under the boardroom table.......?

Or, does he actually see a collective of ''seen it all'' hard nosed football orientated professional successful individuals - who are absolutely intent on driving this football club forwards and bulldozing aside with gusto, anyone or anything that obstructs that ambitious ideology?........

Who really knows what Mr Webber''s thinking...eh?

Especially we, ''the fickle fans''?

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I think we have to be pragmatic about Webber and his introduction.

We don''t really know what he has been asked to achieve. Of course it is promotion but even the fans and owners of clubs at the bottom would be thinking that before the season''s opener.

The local rugby club I support have just come very close to back to back promotions. And every time they played we wanted them to win. But in reality, everyone associated with the club knows another promotion would have signalled disaster. Financially, and without RFU money, it becomes harder and the current players just wouldn''t be good enough. There isn''t enough in place to sustain success.

I hope that when everyone is in place and doing their job that the club might inform us of their intentions. Stuart Webber needs to be told that he has a bit of time to sort it out. If success comes so be it but lets not worry too much about that. I would take progress over luck as sooner or later, luck turns against you.

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Webber needs to identify with the traditions of the club. I don''t think he will do this, instead he will create something alien to those who remember the Stringer and Walker glory years.

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[quote user="Len"]Webber needs to identify with the traditions of the club. I don''t think he will do this, instead he will create something alien to those who remember the Stringer and Walker glory years.[/quote]Why do you think that? What is your evidence? If Webber had anything to do with it, and it seems he certainly did, with his choice of manager and players, the football Hudersfield Town produced at Carrow Road this season was a salutary reminder of how we performed under Stringer in particular.

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Comparing us with teams that have always been way more successful than us anyway really doesn''t make much sense. Compare Arsenal''s and Liverpool''s performances since they were taken over by foreign investors and they''ve actually both gone backwards ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Mr Angry wrote the following post at 2017-04-15 8:27 PM:

Comparing us with teams that have always been way more successful than us anyway really doesn''t make much sense. Compare Arsenal''s and Liverpool''s performances since they were taken over by foreign investors and they''ve actually both gone backwards ๐Ÿ˜‰

Liverpool going backwards? I don''t think so!

Arsenal maybe, but Liverpool, about to finish in their highest position for several seasons and obtain CL football once again!!

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Can someone, who knows more about these things than I, explain why, Jez Moxey, despite being fired as CEO after 6 months, remains as a non-executive director of the club, which also apparently allows him to stay on the FL Board?

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Yes City 2nd, I''d say they''ve gone backwards-their 6 finishes since Fenway Group took over have been 6,8,7,2,6,8 and they look like finishing 3rd or 4th this season. The previous 7 seasons, they finished 4,5,3,3,4,2 and 7-and won the Champions League and FA Cup once.

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[quote user="OldRobert"]Can someone, who knows more about these things than I, explain why, Jez Moxey, despite being fired as CEO after 6 months, remains as a non-executive director of the club, which also apparently allows him to stay on the FL Board?[/quote]Source ?

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[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="OldRobert"]Can someone, who knows more about these things than I, explain why, Jez Moxey, despite being fired as CEO after 6 months, remains as a non-executive director of the club, which also apparently allows him to stay on the FL Board?[/quote]Source ?[/quote]Reported in the press on Friday.  Mail I think, Charles Sale column.  Can''t see why it would be made up.

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Found this on the EFL website which i think must be out of date as it shows Moxey as a director of Norwich City but he was placed on the EFL board during his time at Wolves.

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Morning Tilly.Eventually found it on Mail online it was publshed on Friday 14 April, found the paper:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4410292/Arsene-Wenger-blow-chairman-walks-Palace-game.htmlScroll down and it''s just above pic of Claire Balding.  Sorry no clicky, mine aren''t working anymore, like most things to do with me!The thing I didn''t understand was why he is still apparently a non-executive director of NCFC?

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Presumably he has a role on the FL board which he wished to continue with. It would appear the only way he could maintain his membership is if he has a formal senior role (albeit non exec) at a club.

Probably part of the club taking a reasonable stance during his dismissal.

This is surely only a nominal appointment.

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@VW

Presumably he has a role on the FL board which he wished to continue with. It would appear the only way he could maintain his membership is if he has a formal senior role (albeit non exec) at a club.

Probably part of the club taking a reasonable stance during his dismissal.

This is surely only a nominal appointment.

Pretty sure that as part of his termination the club would have agreed to him retaining a non exec title, until he finds another club, will be a time limit probably of up to 12 months.

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Hoola Han Solo wrote the following post at 16/04/2017 11:15 AM:

Nice to see you Sheriff J W Pepper ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜„

" Did you ever think of getting a drivers licence .........boy"๐Ÿ˜€

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[quote user="TIL 1010"]Thanks for that Robert and Lakey but seems all rather strange. [/quote]Found this definition of a Non-Executive Director (as I hadn''t a clue), makes me wonder whether Moxey was fired at all:

The non-executive director

The demand for non-executive directors has increased in recent years.

Non-executive directors tend to be cherry picked for their personal

qualities, experience and specialist knowledge. Good non-executive

appointments can create positive PR, and help the organisation generate

long-term exposure in the right areas.

Their role is broad. Primarily they will provide objective criticism on board matters

โ€“  โ€œconstructive challengeโ€ โ€“ and facilitate strategic decisions by the

executive directors. Since they monitor the executive management, it is

vital they are impartial and not influenced by other associations, shareholdings or directorships.

Therefore they must be Independent of other stakeholders or interested

parties. However, in all activities, they must act in the interests of

those who have an interest in the company, such as employees, clients,

shareholders and society in general.

Non-executive directors also have a mentoring role to advise and guide Chairmen and Chief Executives where issues arise, or prior to them being brought up in board meetings. They are the โ€˜critical friendโ€™

of the CEO and executive team, with 50% of their role asking questions

on how the business is run in the best interests of its stakeholders,

while spending 50% of the time supporting the team towards mission

success and growth. They can also sit on sub committees to ensure the

company benefits most from their skill sets.

The non-executive directors will also be reimbursed and get

additional pay for attending meetings, with an upward trend in their

remuneration now beginning to plateau.

Emma Ford

The Professional Organisation for Non-Executive Directors

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It is a very valuable role and very often of great benefit to both parties. I hold multiple such roles and it allows access to knowledge, contact and expertise without the high cost and obligations typically associated with employing someone or creating a specific role. It also allows for a troubleshooting element across multiple departments, sectors and levels.

Parma

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A non-3''xecutive director is an advisory/consultant type role. They will not take part in any of the board''s decision making, hence the giant clue of NON-executive in the title.

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