dibbler 0 Posted February 28, 2017 On the edp24 site.Why? Everyone has a smart phone with a camera.Have I missed something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted February 28, 2017 No, generation thick cannot seem to grasp the principle of intellectual property rightsFootball clubs sell their soul to the devil when accepting certain types of sponsorship. One of the conditions in this case is that all images derived from a game are the intellectual property of that sponsor.Unfortunately just as cretins cannot understand why performers object to their work being filmed so they cannot grasp why recording in a ''controlled area'' is wrong. This is not about some fan taking ''snapshorts'', but some halfwit filming, then using that film to post online in a commercial form..Neither is this some draconian measure suddenly being imposed. It has long been known, back to the ''City'' beer being stopped some while back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,311 Posted February 28, 2017 The problem seems to have arisen because Jack Reeve of Norwich Talk fame has been complaining too much about filming restrictions inside grounds that the authorities have decided to playhard ball and clamp down.As dibbler says there''s thousands of cameras at games so in practical terms it''s unworkable but sports grounds are private property so if the owners don''t allow filming inside then that''s just too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogue Baboon 0 Posted February 28, 2017 Here''s a thought...Watch the game?I have never felt the need to us either a camera inside a football ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted February 28, 2017 This is not even the club''s doing, its the EFL, anyway don''t get this need to film during a game, just watch and cheer / boo your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,657 Posted February 28, 2017 Young Jack should have confined himself to filming in Jake''s kitchen because there is only going to be one winner in this but he is getting publicity which i believe is what he set out to do over this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted February 28, 2017 Another fail for Generation Snowflake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted February 28, 2017 Generation Thick was the expression used a few years back.. and that was at a uni, and applied to to all but to those who lacked basic common skills, a grasp of the world beyond social media and an expectation that everyone else was responsible for their well beingas to this case, this lad is trying to set himself up as some alternative media source... fine and good luckbut if you want to challenge the ''big boys'' then take on their costs and responsibilties - and stop imagining that you are somehow clever because no one else is doing itthere are reasons for thatones that have finally been brought home to you today (?) ie take down ALL footage shot in the ground, and maybe on NFC land, carparks, frontage etc and remember the club has the ultimate sanction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,156 Posted March 1, 2017 I guess we''ll see whether this has a real impact if they start getting content filmed during games taken down from websites where it is posted. Which IMO would be a massive own goal by whoever makes that decision, because shaky mobile phone footage of fans cheering a goal etc doesn''t compete with official content at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 643 Posted March 1, 2017 Never understood why people feel the need to get their phone out filming or snapping pictures for the whole game, like this so called "vlogger" Jack Reeve (whose face I am sick of seeing on all articles related to this matter) who must surely spend more time on his phone than watching the game? Also when a penalty is given, everyone behind the goal insists on getting their phone out to video it, but for what purpose? To watch it back? If that''s the case just watch the damn highlights, which are freely available on YouTube!Rant over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 261 Posted March 1, 2017 Does seem to be an over reaction. Do the tickets T&C still prohibit the use of a camera at a ground? I think most venues are ok with pics being taken, as long as they are not used commercially, and that seems to be the rub here - not dissimilar to pubs streaming premier games from other satellite providers a few seasons ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,156 Posted March 1, 2017 It''s the same at gigs - you always get someone who''s filming the whole thing on their phone and if you do that, basically you''re missing the whole experience so why bother ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waveney Canary 0 Posted March 1, 2017 The young fan involved is an obnoxious so and soI hope the authorities throw the book at him and he gets banned by the club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted March 1, 2017 Spot on Tilly, he comes across as an attention seeking c0ck and if this ban means we see less of him, hoorah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted March 1, 2017 Sky pay just over £11million per match and BT £7.6million per game for Premier League games they want to protect that investment.I know our games aren''t Premier League matches but it must be part of any TV deal that the clubs must be shown to try and prevent the rights being infringed.Incidently, anyone else noticed that Sky''s much heralded Friday night football seems to have fallen by the wayside? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,290 Posted March 1, 2017 Archant putting the wrong spin on this in my view by potraying this as an attempt to clamp down on "fans". Its actually the latest instalment of an ongoing spat between Reeve and the EFL authorities over videos (filmed in the ground) posted on his site. I doubt very much that the EFL give a t**s about the odd selfie or crowd shot video finding its way onto the net but he is using these videos for commercial purposes and so I would assume should have a licence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted March 1, 2017 [quote user="Jim Smith"]Archant putting the wrong spin on this in my view by potraying this as an attempt to clamp down on "fans". Its actually the latest instalment of an ongoing spat between Reeve and the EFL authorities over videos (filmed in the ground) posted on his site. I doubt very much that the EFL give a t**s about the odd selfie or crowd shot video finding its way onto the net but he is using these videos for commercial purposes and so I would assume should have a licence.[/quote]Agreed, in any event it would be totally impossible to prevent 27k people from filming something on their mobiles. A perfect example of where modern technology has made an old law unenforceable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,352 Posted March 1, 2017 It''s the continual pictures on social media of the club''s scampi and Bovril that have caused this. You mark my words... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,385 Posted March 1, 2017 Its like some people need to justify ''I was actually there'' here''s my proof...Same thing happens at gigs, idiots holding phones and cameras up the whole time, just to put a 5hit version up on youTube - just f u c k ing enjoy yourself! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George Smiley 3 Posted March 1, 2017 Jack''s ok , it''s just that his "mates" he goes to games with like "Poindexter" , "Shrek" and "Nick Nack" lower the tone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted March 1, 2017 I can''t work out why people get their phones out and record terrorist attacks when they should be running away !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted March 1, 2017 Obvious answer is for the irritating scrotum to bid alongside Sky at the next set of tenders . no ? ,,, thought not 🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted March 1, 2017 I wish there was a Like button on here, irritating scrotum so poetic :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted March 1, 2017 I thought so 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len 74 Posted March 1, 2017 He seems to be a fame-hungry budding Sky presenter rather than an ordinary fan. I think this young man needs to get out into the real world before venturing in front of the cameras. Perhaps do some travelling and write up reports of his journey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted March 1, 2017 Great idea i will personally fund his one way ticket to Outer Mongolia ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len 74 Posted March 1, 2017 This is the trouble. I doubt young Jack would know where Outer Mongolia actually is.What we have these days is childish sports presenters treating the whole thing like some kind of childrens television show or variety performance. Young Jack would do well to look at Dickie Davies in his prime rather than trying to ape that former Blue Peter presenter he seems to idolise. Davies remains a class above the current crop of imbeciles presenting on Sky.Young Jack needs to do something with his life instead of trying to jump from sixth form to the Sky Studios. He is having to lie to his audience in posing as a humble fan. Find himself and be his own man is my advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted March 1, 2017 You bunch of miseries, perhaps you should get on with your own lives instead of criticising his. If you don''t like his videos don''t watch them, and Dickie Davies never looked good in a dress compared to Natalie Sawyer . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted March 1, 2017 [quote user="FenwayFrank"]You bunch of miseries, perhaps you should get on with your own lives instead of criticising his. If you don''t like his videos don''t watch them, and Dickie Davies never looked good in a dress compared to Natalie Sawyer .[/quote]Double thumbs up [Y] [Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted March 1, 2017 Indeed Fenway. Like him or not he is getting off his ar $es and trying to forget a career for himself.Perhaps his detractors are dissatisfied with their own miserable lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites