lake district canary 4,519 Posted February 5, 2017 Not a foregone conclusion. Newcastle have a difficult run of games and have not pulled away enough to make them unstoppable.Brighton have an easier looking run in, but can they maintain their form and have lost two of their last four league games.Of those beneath them, six of Reading''s next ten games are against all the others in the top seven.Leeds could well be challenging for top two if they keep going as they are very consistent atm. Huddersfield are the best looking team of what I''ve seen, but they are ot completely consistent, plus they have fa cup to contend with.Shef Wed are strong and if they get momentum, they will challenge for top two imo.Imo the top seven are going to concertina and close up to make the last few weeks of the season incredibly competitive. That also means that top two is still on for us - if we keep winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,503 Posted February 5, 2017 No. Top 2 isn''t on for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,519 Posted February 5, 2017 We''ll see. Never say never. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted February 5, 2017 That bird has flownIt was never, way way before Xmas.its still never. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted February 5, 2017 It''s mathematically possible, but realistically impossible. We need two teams to have a meltdown and us to go on an unprecedented winning streak.I cannae see it happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,418 Posted February 5, 2017 Well never say never, However our last promotion we lost to Middlesbrough which basically put us in the playoffs. This i remember was a rare lost on our form at the time. The point is to make the top 2 we need to hardly drop any points. A large remainder of our games are against Top teams(April games look a nightmare) so I don''t see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,352 Posted February 5, 2017 I admire your optimism Lakey , but we are too far behind . Its not just winning games, but the top two have to lose , and then the four other clubs have to lose too! It isn''t going to happen. You are asking too many teams to suddenly implode. Playoffs are still a tall order. We need around 75 points looking how things stand and previous seasons (if you are bored go to the excellent website Statto.com and you can play around with previous seasons) which when I first posted on this we had 20 games left and needed 2 points a game roughly (we are nicely on course at the mo) 2 points a game is auto promotion form (46 games = 92 points which would take you up) so that''s what we still have to do - continue with Championship form. Tough ask...that unbelievably bad run still haunts us... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 5, 2017 If we get defeated at Wigan all this optimism will got out the window ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted February 5, 2017 Whoops, thought this was going to be about the top two fans going to Wigan, wrong thread!!Getting into a play off position is best we can hope for, but who is going to falter ? Reading is most likely in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,519 Posted February 5, 2017 [quote user="SwindonCanary"]If we get defeated at Wigan all this optimism will got out the window ! [/quote]Quite possibly. But for me, top two is still possible as it stands. No team has pulled away and if we really get going, 45/46 out of the 51 points should do it. Tall order, I know, but definitely possible - imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,310 Posted February 5, 2017 There''s optimism then there''s LDC. To finish top two we''d need Chelsea''s current form.Dream on ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,352 Posted February 5, 2017 Who was it who said : If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,310 Posted February 5, 2017 [quote user="SwindonCanary"]If we get defeated at Wigan all this optimism will got out the window ! [/quote][:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,519 Posted February 5, 2017 I like to think anything is possible...until it isn''t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,310 Posted February 5, 2017 [quote user="Lessingham Canary"]Whoops, thought this was going to be about the top two fans going to Wigan, wrong thread!!...... [/quote][:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 5, 2017 Or create a stupid thread where you know it will get lots of replies?Take a ridiculous standpoint, then defend it to the death? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,119 Posted February 5, 2017 Back it then LDC, you can get 50-1 right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted February 5, 2017 "I like to think anything is possible...until it isn''t."Agreed. I like to think one day you will admit you might be wrong instead of dragging every thread to 100 replies and labelling anyone who disagrees with you a bully.It is still possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted February 5, 2017 Well, it''s unlikely but what I''m sure is that one of either Brighton or Newcastle will be the dejected team that end up in the playoffs, there are signs that both are stumbling a little - I reckon Leeds might take one of the auto spots. But given we''ve got to play the teams above us, mostly at home, that could make things interesting. Automatic is certainly not impossible, if we went on another terrific run you never know how much we could chip away at the deficit, but I agree it''s unlikely - am at least hoping for another nerve shredding trip to Wembley, and that I fully expect us to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted February 5, 2017 Even if Brighton lose today, we''d still need to make up a 14 point gap over 17 games. Even if we won every single game between now and the end of the season (we won''t) we''d need Brighton to lose at least 4 times in those last 17 games, along with a couple of draws. They''ve only lost 4 times all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,421 Posted February 5, 2017 Winning the 17 remaining games would give us 51 points to add to our 46 and 97 for the season.Possible but highly improbable.Fag packet maths says that, assuming our current good form continues from the last 6 games, we will get another 36/37 points and 83 for the season. A play-off total and nothing moreCan we stop this thread now please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted February 5, 2017 I reckon it''s quite conceivable that we''ll have closed the gap on Newcastle to 10 points after their game is finished Saturday night. Think we''ll beat Wigan Tuesday, and also Forest at ours on Saturday, whilst I reckon Newcastle will get beat by Wolves again, this time at Molineux. Quite conceivable, and then makes our home match with Newcastle a week Tuesday absolutely massive. Just sayin''... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted February 5, 2017 That would leave them with 10 points and a game in hand on us. So conceivably 13 points.Also I''m skeptical that Wolves, who just lost to Burton will beat Newcastle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted February 5, 2017 It could happen either way around, KC - both scenarios wouldn''t be a surprise. Newcastle are showing signs that they''re not at their best currently so I am using a little logic in my theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted February 5, 2017 I don''t see much logic there.Sure Newcastle haven''t been at their best but they''ve still only lost twice in their last ten games in the league, while Wolves have lost five of theirs.Even if that situation happened, and we beat Newcastle, we''d still be seven points behind them and they''d have a game in hand on us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted February 5, 2017 [quote user="king canary"]Even if that situation happened, and we beat Newcastle, we''d still be seven points behind them and they''d have a game in hand on us.[/quote]I know, great eh? And all by a week Tuesday 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 5, 2017 It''s not just the top two though is it? Assuming we make up a point per game on Brighton, we still need to out perform the other four teams above us.There is a very, very slim chance it could happen, but it would be a real shock for every team above us to lose form dramatically, and maybe unprecedented in this league. Still, things can change very quickly - if we are talking about a 7/8 point gap in half a dozen games or so it would make things interesting at least... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,351 Posted February 5, 2017 Just asking for a friend.....Are Villa and Steve Bruce out of the play off picture? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 768 Posted February 5, 2017 Possible, but highly unlikely.Would take one hell of a run and would rely on several teams going through sticky patches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites