Delia interview

[Indy_Bones 441]

[quote user="A Load of Squit"]What makes you so sure he doesn''t have the contacts?[/quote]I''ve no idea if he does or doesn''t, which is the point I''m making.We know next to nothing about the guy, he isn''t coming in as a ''wealthy'' investor, hasn''t been involved in football for very long, so unless further information is forthcoming to give us more to work with, we know nothing (Jon Snow), outside of that he''s related to our owners, has been made a director and they''ll be the ones ''educating'' him in the industry.It isn''t the most reassuring position IMHO, but I''m not trying to be unfair or overly critical to the guy either.

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

After reading snippets of the Times interview in the Pinkun article today, I think it is going to be a very interesting 12 - 24 months as a Norwich City fan.A swift return to the Premier League, followed by an elongated stay and everything will be rosy in the garden again. However, if things continue on a downward trajectory, like they have for all bar a few weeks of the last 18 months, then the Smith''s might find life becoming a little uncomfortable. Digging your heels in and saying that we don''t care what the fans say, to me is a recipe for disaster (no pun intended). If the club starts to go backwards and we end up looking like a return to League One in the near future we could well see the return of scenes at the club that forced another stubborn owner out of the club 20-odd years ago after he had made an equally as bold statement.

 

[A Load of Squit 5,162]

[quote user="Indy_Bones"][quote user="A Load of Squit"]What makes you so sure he doesn''t have the contacts?[/quote]I''ve no idea if he does or doesn''t, which is the point I''m making.We know next to nothing about the guy, he isn''t coming in as a ''wealthy'' investor, hasn''t been involved in football for very long, so unless further information is forthcoming to give us more to work with, we know nothing (Jon Snow), outside of that he''s related to our owners, has been made a director and they''ll be the ones ''educating'' him in the industry.It isn''t the most reassuring position IMHO, but I''m not trying to be unfair or overly critical to the guy either.[/quote]

So getting him involved at age 35 must be a good thing, there''s plenty of time for him to learn and make contacts. Delia & MWJ aren''t going anywhere for a while. 

[Indy_Bones 441]

[quote user="A Load of Squit"]So getting him involved at age 35 must be a good thing, there''s plenty of time for him to learn and make contacts. Delia & MWJ aren''t going anywhere for a while.[/quote]From an experience building perspective then absolutely, but that still isn''t going to help should we find in 5-10 years (or sooner) we need a cash injection...

[Van wink 2,994]

Does young Tom have deep pockets so he can bail us out when we need some dosh?

[A Load of Squit 5,162]

[quote user="Indy_Bones"][quote user="A Load of Squit"]So getting him involved at age 35 must be a good thing, there''s plenty of time for him to learn and make contacts. Delia & MWJ aren''t going anywhere for a while.[/quote]From an experience building perspective then absolutely, but that still isn''t going to help should we find in 5-10 years (or sooner) we need a cash injection...[/quote]

There are more ways to get a cash injection than expecting one person to do it, you seem to be thinking up scenarios for the sake of it, you could say ''what happens if there''s an earthquake at Carrow Rd, will Tom be able to cope with that?''.

[Van wink 2,994]

Would depend heavily on the Richter Scale.

[Indy_Bones 441]

[quote user="A Load of Squit"]There are more ways to get a cash injection than expecting one person to do it, you seem to be thinking up scenarios for the sake of it, you could say ''what happens if there''s an earthquake at Carrow Rd, will Tom be able to cope with that?''.[/quote]Well, forgive me for considering what''s potentially going to happen if we need Premier level money on Civil Servant wages...I''m sure Tom has all the answers and an endless hidden wallet should this be the case, all these ''investors'' are just mugs, clearly...

[? 0]

So, Delia has said they will not even listen to enquiries let alone sell the club. At least we now know their position and this will undoubtedly lead us to be further left behind in terms of finances in comparison to many of our peers. What has happened to her stance of saying she would always do what''s best for the club? Also, states that she really feels for the fans but in the same article says that we won''t like NT taking over from them.

Little point in chasing promotion as if we get back up we will be just left further behind on the field.

[Van wink 2,994]

Tom has several ISA'' s and over 1000 BT shares, plus his Post Office account; so have no fear.

[Mello Yello 2,291]

Is/was NT''s photography business successful?

[OldRobert 38]

[quote user="Ron Manager"]So, Delia has said they will not even listen to enquiries let alone sell the club. At least we now know their position and this will undoubtedly lead us to be further left behind in terms of finances in comparison to many of our peers. What has happened to her stance of saying she would always do what''s best for the club? Also, states that she really feels for the fans but in the same article says that we won''t like NT taking over from them.

Little point in chasing promotion as if we get back up we will be just left further behind on the field.[/quote]More than a little whiff of hypocrisy in there Ron, unless I misunderstand the meaning of the word.  Obviously doesn''t give a fig for the feelings of the fans of ''her'' club.  I will do what I like with my ''train set'', which of course she has every right to do, but that''s never been the impression she has given in the past.  As you say Ron, now we know..................with a vengeance.

[The young canary 0]

Bloody depressing article for any city fan

[? 0]

Yep OR, she seems to have done a total about face in terms of her attitude towards the club and its customers, sorry, fans! As you say, ''her train set''!

[SwindonCanary 455]

Not depressing for me, I want a fan of the club to be in charge, as we have now. If I was in their position I''d like to pass it down to a family member

[Horse Renoir 1]

Us taking a stand against the money being thrown around the game is only going to end one way...

It also pretty much guarantees if we ever find a good manager he won''t hang around long if we starve him of funds.

All should be rosy for a while if we get back up this year but I''m worried we''ll settle back into a nothing Championship club again 5/10 years down the line. That might be fine for Delia and co but some of us want to see the club battling as hard as it can to establish ourselves in the top flight and to maybe win something.

We didn''t all start supporting Norwich because it''s a friendly backwater little club that makes for a nice day out

[lake district canary 4,531]

[quote user="Ron Manager"]Yep OR, she seems to have done a total about face in terms of her attitude towards the club and its customers, sorry, fans! As you say, ''her train set''![/quote]

The point isn''t about being a train set.   It''s more a point of ethos and the well being of the club as a comunity based venture.  The risks of getting in outside investors who aren''t Norwich through and through is something that a lot of people wouldn''t want.  Yes, you''d have the money, maybe, but you wouldn''t have the local connection - and once you lose that, you would find it almost imossible to get that back.  Ask Cardiff, Hull, Ipswich etc etc.   We are very, very, lucky to have owners with the ethos they do - because it is in the interests of all Norwich fans.  It''s about ethos, not train sets.

[? 0]

You make a fair point LDC but it is not out of the realms of possibilities that a benefactor/investor could be found who meets these requirements. However, her current statement rules out the possibility of that ever being looked at let alone happening so the train set anology still stands!

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

[quote user="lake district canary"][quote user="Ron Manager"]Yep OR, she seems to have done a total about face in terms of her attitude towards the club and its customers, sorry, fans! As you say, ''her train set''![/quote]

The point isn''t about being a train set.   It''s more a point of ethos and the well being of the club as a comunity based venture.  The risks of getting in outside investors who aren''t Norwich through and through is something that a lot of people wouldn''t want.  Yes, you''d have the money, maybe, but you wouldn''t have the local connection - and once you lose that, you would find it almost imossible to get that back.  Ask Cardiff, Hull, Ipswich etc etc.   We are very, very, lucky to have owners with the ethos they do - because it is in the interests of all Norwich fans.  It''s about ethos, not train sets.

[/quote]To me it appears that it''s more about a political ideal Lakey. It seems to be taking the attitude of "I''m a socialist (as much as any rich person can be, and despite what she claims, yes she is rich, we''re talking top 1% of the world population rich) so I''m going to force my socialist ideals on the supporters of Norwich City". Not a very inclusive attitude to take towards the community of Norwich City fans as a whole. Especially when you consider that , at a rough guess, 55-65% of them don''t vote Labour.If she want''s to run Norwich as some sort of left wing experiment let''s go the whole hog. Do away with passing the club down to a family member as an hereditary title, do away with majority shareholding and introduce a system that is similar to what Barcelona have where the fans elect the club President each year. That''s football and socialism working hand in hand. The problem there is that Norwich fans would have a greater influence over how the club is run, which of course is an issue in as much as it might be others and not Delia making the decision. You see no one believes more firmly than Comrade Smith that all Norwich City fans are

equal. She would be only too happy to let us make decisions for the club. But sometimes we might make the wrong decisions, comrades,

and then where should we be?

[alex_ncfc 662]

Nephew Tom can do one. Reading this interview has further lessened my passion for NCFC. We are soft as sh*t and going nowhere. And people have the gall to put Chase down, a real football man, these two and their "nice man" nephew will be the death of this club. "We are not even listening to enquiries" - oh so there are enquiries then! How professional of you not to listen to them, thanks a bunch.

NCFC R. I. P

[norfolkngood 1,087]

“The supporters will be very disappointed to hear that. But no way will we sell. We don’t even listen to any enquiries,”

i thought we were told that nobody was interested / wanted to buy or invest

Now we are told we don''t even listen to enquiries

by the sound of that there has been enquiries

seems to me they are so head strong they dont really care what we think

treating people / supporters like idiots will not last long

[sonyc 5,517]

Then....there are lots of headstrong people all around the club!

[? 0]

I have just realised that this shows Mick Dennis''s piece about the club was total bs! He said nobody offered to buy the club apart from the Cullums, and there had been no enquiries! Guess it now shows it was just a PR piece!

http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2016/09/12/debt-free-small-profits-not-skint-wretched-transfer-windows-investors-mick-dennis-spills-a-few-beans/

[Duncan Edwards 2,233]

[quote user="Ron Manager"]I have just realised that this shows Mick Dennis''s piece about the club was total bs! He said nobody offered to buy the club apart from the Cullums, and there had been no enquiries! Guess it now shows it was just a PR piece!

http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2016/09/12/debt-free-small-profits-not-skint-wretched-transfer-windows-investors-mick-dennis-spills-a-few-beans/[/quote]

That''s a Bob Beamon sized leap.

I''m delighted that this has been settled once and for all. Now all those wishing we were another club can either like it or lump it.

I''m looking forward to supporting my club.

OTBC and sod the consequences.

[Crafty Canary 495]

If the club doesn''t get promotion the parachute payments will end and so will the large salaries if the books are to remain in balance. This would mean all our best players moving on and promising youngsters being sold periodically to avoid building debt. We could become another Piswich. That''s the potential downside, the potential upside is ..................?

[? 0]

Nah CC, sod the consequences!

[93vintage 16]

How much has the club increased in value since its peak under Chase?Assuming this is a large positive number the fans aren''t being thrown any scraps. It''s all going in Nephew Tom''s pocket, I should imagine so that he keeps 50%+ absolute control.When it comes down to it, the club has become an heirloom for the Smith family to profit from. I''m glad we''re not owned by foreigners, but the price of this is high, especially when you consider our relative decline under Delia & Winnie''s kamikaze ownership.This was a once in a lifetime opportunity for the fans to gain at least a sizeable share of the club. But they''ve been shut out. Instead we''ve seen Nephew Tom come in and stick his snout in the trough.

[Crafty Canary 495]

The fans role is to pay through their noses and then sit there and happy clapand certainly not to question the cook and chief bottle washer. They are building a North Korea style dynasty where dissent is not to be tolerated.

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

[quote user="Crafty Canary"]The fans role is to pay through their noses and then sit there and happy clapand certainly not to question the cook and chief bottle washer. They are building a North Korea style dynasty where dissent is not to be tolerated.[/quote]Kim Jong Smith?

[Len 74]

[quote user="Iwans Big Toe"][quote user="Crafty Canary"]The fans role is to pay through their noses and then sit there and happy clapand certainly not to question the cook and chief bottle washer. They are building a North Korea style dynasty where dissent is not to be tolerated.[/quote]Kim Jong Smith?[/quote]Kim Tom-un.