Iwans Big Toe 309 Posted December 3, 2016 "I might spend the next five years doing some teaching and some Norwich City and some television maybe"Discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted December 3, 2016 Whats to discuss, his position at Norwich City is unpaid, and isn''t full time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,520 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="Iwans Big Toe"]"I might spend the next five years doing some teaching and some Norwich City and some television maybe"Discuss.[/quote]Not sure what there is to discuss? The thing we should be interested in is his Chairmanship of NCFC, an important role, but not one that is going to take up all his time, so as an ex-politician will be doing all sorts of things apart from that to work and also keep in the public eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,427 Posted December 3, 2016 Someone''s looking for a new stick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,531 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="Iwans Big Toe"]"I might spend the next five years doing some teaching and some Norwich City and some television maybe"Discuss.[/quote]That leaves off the start and the end of the quote, accidentally or deliberately to give the impression Balls is being blase and half-hearted about his work with Norwich City. That he "might" stir himself enough to do a bit for us. Whereas the "might" refers to the idea that while he could happily fill his life with those listed activities he might also return to public service. The full quote is:"And I’m quite happy with the idea that I might spend the next five years doing some [teaching at] King’s [College, London] and at Harvard, and some Norwich City [where he is chairman] and some television maybe. But I think I’d be disappointed if I didn’t do something that felt like it was public service … I’d love to have a chance to do that kind of thing again.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted December 3, 2016 Great thread though IBT[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 309 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="morty"]Whats to discuss, his position at Norwich City is unpaid, and isn''t full time.[/quote]So are you happy that one of the most senior positions at the football club is filled on a part-time basis? Or would you prefer to see someone who can give a guarantee that they are focused solely on Norwich City?What about the might''s and maybes in Ed''s interview? Is that showing enough commitment from senior management at the club? Would that level of commitment be acceptable from other staff members, players, groundsman, tea-lady etc?Discuss.As always Morty I expect a well thought out and insightful response from you and I respect your opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 309 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="FenwayFrank"]Someone''s looking for a new stick[/quote]People at the club seem desperate to hand out these sticks though don''t they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="Iwans Big Toe"][quote user="morty"]Whats to discuss, his position at Norwich City is unpaid, and isn''t full time.[/quote]So are you happy that one of the most senior positions at the football club is filled on a part-time basis? Or would you prefer to see someone who can give a guarantee that they are focused solely on Norwich City?What about the might''s and maybes in Ed''s interview? Is that showing enough commitment from senior management at the club? Would that level of commitment be acceptable from other staff members, players, groundsman, tea-lady etc?Discuss.As always Morty I expect a well thought out and insightful response from you and I respect your opinion.[/quote]I''m interested in what happens on the pitch, instead of desperately looking for another stick to beat the club with.Its a part time, unpaid position, I don''t know what else to tell you that will help you understand this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,065 Posted December 3, 2016 We need to worry more what Moxey and the man from mulbarton are doing than a part time, unpaid chairman.Balls clearly loves the club and I can''t believe he would do anything to jeopardise it (it whatever way he has any control of that) but he''s not the one making the transfer decisions, he''s not the one managing the day-to-day finances and he''s not the one managing the players.We have very highly paid employees to carry out the important roles that will ultimately determine how we perform on the pitch and whether we go up, stagnate or get relegated(!).Put the stick down and walk away. Or, pick it back up and use it on those that deserve some critisism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,352 Posted December 3, 2016 What on earth has Ricky Martin done to deserve criticism. I know loads of posters have a rabid dislike for him. Is that enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,531 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="Iwans Big Toe"][quote user="morty"]Whats to discuss, his position at Norwich City is unpaid, and isn''t full time.[/quote]So are you happy that one of the most senior positions at the football club is filled on a part-time basis? Or would you prefer to see someone who can give a guarantee that they are focused solely on Norwich City?What about the might''s and maybes in Ed''s interview? Is that showing enough commitment from senior management at the club? Would that level of commitment be acceptable from other staff members, players, groundsman, tea-lady etc?Discuss.As always Morty I expect a well thought out and insightful response from you and I respect your opinion.[/quote]If you want a full-time executive chairman that will cost a great deal of money. We have never had that. Munby was unpaid and part-time and so was Bowkett. Munby had a full-time job away from the club and Bowkett in particular had several other business interests that meant he certainly could not focus entirely on Norwich City. How come you never levelled this complaint against Bowkett? Or against Munby? Or against Sir Arthur South, who had any number of other activities on his plate?Chase was in effect a full-time chairman, but in his time we didn''t have a high-profile and highly-paid CEO as well. Chase in practice filled both those jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 512 Posted December 3, 2016 Our chairman is an economist sought after by King''s College and Harvard with an acute understanding of communication from a high profile political career. He is also a fan. What more do you want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 3, 2016 Ed Balls is a fame hungry prat, can you actually imagine any other football chairman going on a silly dance popularity contest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 512 Posted December 3, 2016 I suspect it may be a tribal thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,427 Posted December 3, 2016 Karen Brady spends a lot of time away from West Ham, it''s not " little old Norwich " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted December 3, 2016 I suppose this will keep the doom merchants going until 4:50pm at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted December 3, 2016 What happened to King Crimson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,520 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]can you actually imagine any other football chairman going on a silly dance popularity contest?[/quote]Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted December 3, 2016 Some Chairman are very hands on but it doesn''t always have to be that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted December 3, 2016 Just bumping this for the moaners to have something to latch on to tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dicky 0 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="morty"]Whats to discuss, his position at Norwich City is unpaid, and isn''t full time.[/quote]Morty gets all excited as he can jump on another post that someone has bothered to put up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 309 Posted December 3, 2016 [quote user="Dicky"][quote user="morty"]Whats to discuss, his position at Norwich City is unpaid, and isn''t full time.[/quote]Morty gets all excited as he can jump on another post that someone has bothered to put up.[/quote]How else is he going to beat Nigel to the 40,000 post count? [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,065 Posted December 3, 2016 Nutty: I didn''t critisise Ricky Martin, however I genuinely want to know what he does within the club. My point was I don''t know why Ed Balls gets so much negativity when there are people getting paid a lot of money that don''t seem to get as much attention and who have much more of a direct influence on the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,065 Posted December 3, 2016 Actually you summed it up perfectly..."What on earth has Ricky Martin done.."I work with a good friend of Ricky Martin and even he couldn''t tell me what his actual role is. "He organises a lot of events" was the best he could come up with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,352 Posted December 4, 2016 [quote user="Fiery Zac"]Nutty: I didn''t critisise Ricky Martin, however I genuinely want to know what he does within the club. My point was I don''t know why Ed Balls gets so much negativity when there are people getting paid a lot of money that don''t seem to get as much attention and who have much more of a direct influence on the club.[/quote]Well I got the wrong end of the stick then buddy because the only people you mentioned were Jed Moxey and Ricky Martin. So if it wasn''t them and it isn''t Ed Balls who is it?As for what Ricky Martin does. I don''t know now. His job may have changed. But last I heard he was Technical Director. Not Director Of Football. Or even Technical Director Of Football. The role of Technical Director was that he managed Colney. He''s responsible for conditioning, fitness, medical, physio, sports science, sports analysis, academy, the infrastructure, the training ground, players’ rest, relaxation, wellbeing, nutrition, hydration and more besides. He also delivered our fantastic category one academy. His remit will be to have got those areas up to best in class. He''s meticulous and I''ll wager he has achieved that. This leaves the manager free to look after the first team and the coaching of the first team.He probably organised a few events too. I have actually seen people frothing at the mouth at the mention of Ricky Martin''s name.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted December 4, 2016 The same people who don''t like it when we win a match, I guess.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,065 Posted December 4, 2016 ?? Why do I have to be critisising anybody? If at all, I''m critisising those fans who have nothing better to do than spout jibes at Ed Balls for no good reason. I was merely pointing out that we should be more worried about those paid at that club and their contribution. I was then simply wondering what our technical director does. Thanks for answering that (although your long list of responsibilities may be intended to look impressive but a lot of it is the same thing). Who did all that before that role was made for him..Also we gained academy one status 2 years before he became technical director.... Anyway I was genuinely just asking a question I don''t know the answer to as am interested in what the highly paid staff actually do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,352 Posted December 4, 2016 [quote user="Fiery Zac"]?? Why do I have to be critisising anybody? If at all, I''m critisising those fans who have nothing better to do than spout jibes at Ed Balls for no good reason. I was merely pointing out that we should be more worried about those paid at that club and their contribution. I was then simply wondering what our technical director does. Thanks for answering that (although your long list of responsibilities may be intended to look impressive but a lot of it is the same thing). Who did all that before that role was made for him..Also we gained academy one status 2 years before he became technical director.... Anyway I was genuinely just asking a question I don''t know the answer to as am interested in what the highly paid staff actually do.[/quote]OK so I tell you what it is and you tell me it amounts to the same things. It doesn''t. That list is very important because everything that involves the players needs to be best in class. If those things aren''t up to scratch we''d never sign a player. They''re not my list they''re David McNally''s job description. The reason the role was created was to free the manager to look after the first team and coach the first team. Ricky Martin was charged with achieving cat one at a club AGM. He also passed the next audit when it came round. You genuinely asked me a question and I genuinely took the trouble to answer it. If you don''t like the answer it doesn''t make it any less genuine. Or true. You can take it as fact or you can look it up yourself. There''s no pleasing some folk[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,352 Posted December 4, 2016 [quote user="Fiery Zac"]Put the stick down and walk away. Or, pick it back up and use it on those that deserve some critisism.[/quote]It was this comment that made me think you were criticising. Apologies if you didn''t mean Moey and Martin. It read that way though.Now perhaps you could help me out with what Ed Balls did for his 90 grand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites