Crafty Canary 490 Posted October 30, 2016 My team would be:McGovernPinto/Martin depending on fitnessTurnerKloseOlsenPritchardDorransThompsonBradyHoolahanJerome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 498 Posted October 30, 2016 McGovernPinto Martin Klose Olssen Thompson Naismith Dorrans JoshHoolahan Jerome Ive kept McGovern in as cant see what Ruddy did in the cup game to get his place back, Klose is in as there''s no-one any better though I''m temped to drop him for BassongOlssen is only playing because don''t want Brady playing and there''s no other option until Toffolo comes back Jan 1stI''ve started Naismith as still think he''ll come good if he starts games, Jacob is unlucky to be getting a rest but Josh gets his chance to shine.Jerome, Wes, Dorrans keep their place as don''t believe they are any of the players that Russ was referring to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 929 Posted October 30, 2016 So on balance then, based on teams selected in this thread so far, apart from the odd change here and there, most people would select the vast majority of players who started on Saturday.All seems very odd to me but then again it''s the same 1 hour before every game when the team is announced. Everybody says, "good selection, happy with that, strong team, fantastic bench etc", completly ignoring the fact that most of those players have been rubbish for the last 4 or 5 weeks, and then after the game, when we''ve played even more rubbish than the week before, they slate the manager for his team selection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted October 30, 2016 I dunno how Klose manages to escape any criticism. Was awfull Saturday, got bullied big time by Murray just like he did Murphy vs ipswich. Cant handle the physical battle or a long ball. If I had a game coming up against Norwich any time soon my main tactics would be long balls over the top, stop the fullbacks bombing on and man mark Hoolahan. Job done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 498 Posted October 30, 2016 [quote user="Making Plans"]So on balance then, based on teams selected in this thread so far, apart from the odd change here and there, most people would select the vast majority of players who started on Saturday.All seems very odd to me but then again it''s the same 1 hour before every game when the team is announced. Everybody says, "good selection, happy with that, strong team, fantastic bench etc", completly ignoring the fact that most of those players have been rubbish for the last 4 or 5 weeks, and then after the game, when we''ve played even more rubbish than the week before, they slate the manager for his team selection.[/quote]I made 4 changes, what would your team be for Sat Making Plans ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 628 Posted October 30, 2016 Hardly any players could complain if they got dropped to be fair so it could be anything. Will depend on who shows they are up for it in training this week.RuddyPinto Martin Klose OlssonThompson DorransMurphy Wes PritchardJeromeI''d leave the attacking to the forward players and stop the full backs pushing on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clever Farke 63 Posted October 30, 2016 RuddyPinto. Martin. Klose. BradyJosh M. Thompson. Dorrans. Pritchard Oliveira Jerome Win or die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted October 30, 2016 Klose needs dropping was awfull again. Murphy has bought nothing to the table in recent weeks. Unless you mean swapping Jacob for Josh.Canos where are you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 929 Posted October 30, 2016 [quote user="Diane"]I made 4 changes, what would your team be for Sat Making Plans ?[/quote]Personally I''d do one of 2 things - I''d either pick exactly the same side and tell them to go out there and make up for last Saturday or, and this is my preference, I''d drop 7 players who in my opinion have been poor just lately.This would send a loud and clear message to all those who didn''t put a shift in against Brighton.We have a squad for times when players are injured, suspended, out of form and now, as it seems, can''t be bothered.Unfortunately those 4 things combined account for a large proportion of our squad at the moment.It''s time to try something different and give "squad players" a chance.First of all I''d have Ruddy in goal. Not necessarily because I think he''s that much better than McGovern but you can''t pick the same goalkeeper when he''s just gifted the opposition at least 3 goals.In defence I''d have Pinto at right back if fit, if not I''d have Whitttaker. (yes I know)I''d try Turner and Bassong (yes I know) as the CB pairing on the basis that they have played together a lot in this League and they can''t be any worse than the current form of Martin, Bennett and Klose.I''d keep Olsson in simply because he''s better than Brady at LB and there really isn''t a third option.I ditch Tettey (although I think he''s suspended anyway) and bring in Thompson - he has to be the way forward.Although in a ideal World I wouldn''t want to, I''d have to keep Dorrans simply because at the moment he''s arguably the best of a bad bunch.The rest of midfield is a conumdrum - Hoolahan, Brady and Jacob haven''t really been at the races for the last 3 games. Howson is injured and I don''t rate Mulumbu or Naismith. The jury for me is well and truely out on Canos although we haven''t seen much of him.Sending Maddison to Aberdeen was a big mistake because given the form and availability of our current midfield he would surely walk into our team right now.Therefore my attacking midfielders would be Josh & Pritchard.Finally up front there is a serious lack of choice and firepower. I don''t think Oliveira''s subtle flicks & touches are suited Championship football so I''d play Jerome and Lafferty. (yes I know)Despite his many other qualities, Jerome has only scored 6 in 14 and none in the last 3 so ideally we need someone who offers something different.Therefore I''d give Lafferty the chance alongside Jerome because he can mix it up a bit against what will be a physical Leeds side.It would ironic if it was Lafferty who got AN out of the mire, but you never know, things like that do happen in football. Team (442)RuddyPinto (Whittaker) Turner Bassong OlssonThompson Dorrans Pritchard JoshJerome LaffertyOn the bench I''d have - McGovern, Martin, Klose, Brady, Hoolahan, Canos, Oliveira. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havemyhowsonit 0 Posted October 30, 2016 [quote user="Making Plans"][quote user="Diane"]I made 4 changes, what would your team be for Sat Making Plans ?[/quote]Personally I''d do one of 2 things - I''d either pick exactly the same side and tell them to go out there and make up for last Saturday or, and this is my preference, I''d drop 7 players who in my opinion have been poor just lately.This would send a loud and clear message to all those who didn''t put a shift in against Brighton.We have a squad for times when players are injured, suspended, out of form and now, as it seems, can''t be bothered.Unfortunately those 4 things combined account for a large proportion of our squad at the moment.It''s time to try something different and give "squad players" a chance.First of all I''d have Ruddy in goal. Not necessarily because I think he''s that much better than McGovern but you can''t pick the same goalkeeper when he''s just gifted the opposition at least 3 goals.In defence I''d have Pinto at right back if fit, if not I''d have Whitttaker. (yes I know)I''d try Turner and Bassong (yes I know) as the CB pairing on the basis that they have played together a lot in this League and they can''t be any worse than the current form of Martin, Bennett and Klose.I''d keep Olsson in simply because he''s better than Brady at LB and there really isn''t a third option.I ditch Tettey (although I think he''s suspended anyway) and bring in Thompson - he has to be the way forward.Although in a ideal World I wouldn''t want to, I''d have to keep Dorrans simply because at the moment he''s arguably the best of a bad bunch.The rest of midfield is a conumdrum - Hoolahan, Brady and Jacob haven''t really been at the races for the last 3 games. Howson is injured and I don''t rate Mulumbu or Naismith. The jury for me is well and truely out on Canos although we haven''t seen much of him.Sending Maddison to Aberdeen was a big mistake because given the form and availability of our current midfield he would surely walk into our team right now.Therefore my attacking midfielders would be Josh & Pritchard.Finally up front there is a serious lack of choice and firepower. I don''t think Oliveira''s subtle flicks & touches are suited Championship football so I''d play Jerome and Lafferty. (yes I know)Despite his many other qualities, Jerome has only scored 6 in 14 and none in the last 3 so ideally we need someone who offers something different.Therefore I''d give Lafferty the chance alongside Jerome because he can mix it up a bit against what will be a physical Leeds side.It would ironic if it was Lafferty who got AN out of the mire, but you never know, things like that do happen in football. Team (442)RuddyPinto (Whittaker) Turner Bassong OlssonThompson Dorrans Pritchard JoshJerome LaffertyOn the bench I''d have - McGovern, Martin, Klose, Brady, Hoolahan, Canos, Oliveira.[/quote]I can''t anyone serious when they suggest turner and bassong as CBs together.Then to also suggest whittaker and lafferty should get into the starting 11! I suggest you get your head seriously tested like now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,189 Posted October 30, 2016 RuddyPintoMartinKloseOlssonThompsonDorransNaismithHoolahanBradyJeromeSubs:McGovern, Bassong, Murphy, Murphy, Canos, Oliveira, Pritchard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 929 Posted October 30, 2016 [quote user="have my howson it"]I can''t anyone serious when they suggest turner and bassong as CBs together.Then to also suggest whittaker and lafferty should get into the starting 11! I suggest you get your head seriously tested like now[/quote]If Turner, Bassong and Whitakker are not good enough then why are they here and why were Turner and Whitakker given new contracts in the Summer. If AN thought they were worth keeping then surely now is the time to use them. At least they don''t give up.As for Lafferty, I''ve just got the feeling that he will prove AN wrong one day.Time for AN to put his preferences, his favourites and his dislikes aside, do something different, turn things around and save his bacon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,351 Posted October 30, 2016 Not sure how fit Whitts is because he recently had a hernia op. Should think that''s a quick recovery time though. If it''s him or Martin for right back I pick him every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 498 Posted November 2, 2016 [quote user="Duncan Edwards"]RuddyPintoMartinKloseOlssonThompsonDorransNaismithHoolahanBradyJerome Subs:McGovern, Bassong, Murphy, Murphy, Canos, Oliveira, Pritchard[/quote]I don''t think your team will be too far out from the one that Alex picks tbh Duncan though surprised you haven''t got your favourite Bassong in the lineup [:)] and I think he might stick with McGovern in goal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,502 Posted November 2, 2016 Pinto being back would be a massive boost regardless of who else is picked in the team, in all honesty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,070 Posted November 2, 2016 RuddyPinto Turner Bassong Olsson Thompson Canos Pritchard Dorrans Brady Oliviera dropping Martin as i think the players have a problem with him as much as the manager but of course he is managers Favorite so martin will start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 498 Posted November 2, 2016 When did Turner last play in the first team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havemyhowsonit 0 Posted November 2, 2016 [quote user="Making Plans"][quote user="have my howson it"]I can''t anyone serious when they suggest turner and bassong as CBs together.Then to also suggest whittaker and lafferty should get into the starting 11! I suggest you get your head seriously tested like now[/quote]If Turner, Bassong and Whitakker are not good enough then why are they here and why were Turner and Whitakker given new contracts in the Summer. If AN thought they were worth keeping then surely now is the time to use them. At least they don''t give up.As for Lafferty, I''ve just got the feeling that he will prove AN wrong one day.Time for AN to put his preferences, his favourites and his dislikes aside, do something different, turn things around and save his bacon.[/quote]Quite simple nobody wants them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted November 2, 2016 Go for 4-4-2. The players are clearly not comfortable with 4-2-3-1, the opposition know what to expect and we are not getting enough players in the box. Even dear old Chris Hughton has seen the light! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted November 2, 2016 Maybe try playing 12 players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,070 Posted November 2, 2016 i think we have to get away from this 6 defenders and 4 up front the gap between the 2 DM and the AM is to big and gives the other teams midfield space to play we sit to deep with 2 DM and its not helping keeping the goals out so why not go on the front foot and keep the ball in their half Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 498 Posted November 2, 2016 [quote user="morty"]Maybe try playing 12 players?[/quote]That might work Morty lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,314 Posted November 2, 2016 Are we going for a single pivot, double pivot or the regular tetrahedron formation?Apples Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coq au vin 0 Posted November 2, 2016 @morty Only if that 12th player is a recall for Van Wolfswinkel - we need his professional never-say-die attitude right now... and yes I saw the LDC post so get the joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Wall Of Tettey 0 Posted November 2, 2016 Ruddy ......Bennett Bassong Klose Pinto......Thompson.........Olsson DorransPritchard Hoolahan Jerome We''re Always looking towards individual mistakes and I think it''s generally because were stretched or someone is wildly out of position. Would like us to have pinto and olsson providing some natural width while keeping stability with a back 3. Gives Pritchard and hoolahan a license to roam around too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted November 2, 2016 Interesting "Great Wall "Not likely with our one dimensional management however Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted November 2, 2016 Leeds will look to do what they did in the EFL, and others have done with equal success -- draw us forward, press heavily in the midfield until we give the ball away, then put a ball over our ponderous back line for their strikers to run on to. Playing 3 at the back won''t prevent that. One answer is for whoever is in goal to come quickly out of his area to clear -- McGovern then, rather than Ruddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted November 3, 2016 Let''s go bold and play a 3-4-2-1 like Chelsea do right now. RuddyBennett, Martin, KlosePinto, Thompson, Dorrans, BradyPritchard, Hoolahan JeromeI don''t think we can play 2 up front as the two strikers we have are too similar so it would be far too one-dimensional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,455 Posted November 3, 2016 @westcoast McGovern may be slightly better at coming off his line but he isn''t actually good at it- he''s got an awful habit of coming, stopping and then finally committing which you can tell panics whoever is the last defender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted November 3, 2016 I don''t think Mcgovern can really expect to keep his place for this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites