A really good read

[lappinitup 629]

Long - Gives an insight into how a similar club to ours is run, and explains why there were so many empty seats at Wembley for the play-off final......http://www.hullcityindependent.net/?page=news&news_id=1864

[SwindonCanary 455]

Just shows how good our owners are.

[lake district canary 4,531]

Wow.  A story of  immemse power and passion.   Just goes to show what getting the wrong owner can do, money or no money.  The owner inflicting the ruination of a historic football club by turning on its fans.......be careful what you wish for, those of  you that want someone with money to come in to NCFC.  

[CANARYKING 634]

Stick with it, don''t get bored halfway through, a master plan in how NOT to run a football club, much better the devil you know !

[Lessingham Canary 99]

Fantastic read, well spotted Lapps.

Not a club I have ever cared much about personally, but do admit to feeling for their fans after reading that, shame that so many will still continue to berate our owners, maybe it will be a case of " you don''t know what you have until its gone", football is the loser here.

[Haggerdoo 6]

Makes you appreciate what we''ve got - Delia and co get plenty of stick on here but it just shows how quickly things can turn sour if you sell out to greedy self centred foreign owners with no respect for a club, its history or supporters - I''d hate to see us go down that route and end up being another Hull, Cardiff or Leeds

[OldRobert 38]

[quote user="SwindonCanary"]Just shows how good our owners are.[/quote]No it doesn''t, it just shows that our owners are completely different from the Allams.  Just because the situation at Hull appears to be some sort of ''war'' between the fans and owners, doesn''t mean were we to be taken over by a well monied new owner/consortium, that we would end up the same as Hull.  Not every rich owner is like them.

[lake district canary 4,531]

[quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="SwindonCanary"]Just shows how good our owners are.[/quote]No it doesn''t, it just shows that our owners are completely different from the Allams.  Just because the situation at Hull appears to be some sort of ''war'' between the fans and owners, doesn''t mean were we to be taken over by a well monied new owner/consortium, that we would end up the same as Hull.  Not every rich owner is like them.[/quote]

Maybe not, but all sorts of promises and checks can be made beforehand, but once in position, new owners can do what they like.  Some people will do anything and behave as well as they have to to get what they want, but once they have it, they can be seen in their real light.  There are no guarantees in football, but once gone down the drain like Hull seems to be going, it will take a heck of a lot to ever get that back.  Be careful what you wish for.

[OldRobert 38]

[quote user="lake district canary"][quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="SwindonCanary"]Just shows how good our owners are.[/quote]No it doesn''t, it just shows that our owners are completely different from the Allams.  Just because the situation at Hull appears to be some sort of ''war'' between the fans and owners, doesn''t mean were we to be taken over by a well monied new owner/consortium, that we would end up the same as Hull.  Not every rich owner is like them.[/quote]

Maybe not, but all sorts of promises and checks can be made beforehand, but once in position, new owners can do what they like.  Some people will do anything and behave as well as they have to to get what they want, but once they have it, they can be seen in their real light.  There are no guarantees in football, but once gone down the drain like Hull seems to be going, it will take a heck of a lot to ever get that back.  Be careful what you wish for.[/quote]I appreciate what you''re saying LDC, but you cannot sit at home all the time because if you stepped outside the front door you might get bowled over by a bus.

[TIL 1010 4,722]

Reading all that must make young Tom sleep easy at night. [:D]

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

''''I appreciate what you''re saying LDC, but you cannot sit at home all the time because if you stepped outside the front door you might get bowled over by a bus.''''

When I look at rich-owner-takeovers and subsequent club performances I see a negative reaction that''s somewhat more frequent than that of being randomly mown down by a bus.

[BroadstairsR 2,138]

If we''re floundering by Christmas.

If Championship mediocrity becomes apparent.

Then I''d be willing to take a risk, bus route or not.

(Too many opportunities missed, repeatedly.)

Money problems would become an increasing concern.

The quicksand effect.

[GenerationA47 747]

Go on, then - what does he actually mean by this?

"A thick, ubiquitous atmosphere, synonymous and disharmony had been cultivated under the Allams. Rest assured, no play-off final was going to fix the exponential damage here."

I find the East Yorkshire dialect extremely puzzling... they seem to use familiar words in a completely different way

[Nuff Said 5,089]

Tl;Dr

Cam someone precis what appeared to be an overly verbose extended whinge?

[GenerationA47 747]

That said, a strangely riveting account of how it can all go wrong just when you think your club''s saviour has arrived. The downward spiral of the fan-owner relationship, irrespective of fluctuating footballing fortunes, holds a macabre fascination for an outsider.

[Hairy Canary 668]

[quote user="Nuff Said"]Tl;Dr

Cam someone precis what appeared to be an overly verbose extended whinge?[/quote]

Name change to Hull Tigers did not happen mainly due to opposition of fans. Owner has a sulk, says fans can die when they like etc, price hike of 14% even after relegation, Name change still happens on merchandise, programs etc, imposition of very expensive membership scheme, removal of concessions for young and old fans, season ticket holders moved from regular seats without explanation, complete stop of communications with owner.

Result = massive drop off in season ticket numbers (now around 11,000 after promotion) and inability to sell their tickets at play off final. Not getting any better.

[TCCANARY 263]

To be fair to the Allams, they treated everyone (the local council, the FA etc.) the same, as soon as they disagreed with them they refused to speak to them, they must be a dream to do business with.

[Nuff Said 5,089]

Thank you Hairy