? 0 Posted July 6, 2016 I see our academy has not been included in the teams taking part in this years EFL cup. I realise we have just been relegated (The Academy) but surely we would still be part of the top 16. Newcastle are included so relegation from the EPL doesn''t seem to affect it. Anybody know why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424 Posted July 6, 2016 It''s invitational so up to the FL who is invited. Norwich could have been asked and turned it down - from what I understand many of the clubs listed as participating haven''t confirmed whether they will be accepting the invitation or not yet, so Norwich might still be involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted July 6, 2016 I understood that they included 16 PL clubs, purely based on finishing position and we were 17th - both us and Villa weren''t included so it isn''t a ''snub''. Plenty of sides haven''t indicated whether they''ll play, we''re next in line if one doesn''t - though we might not be interested anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 6, 2016 The list is on the Beeb Bethnal, are you saying that list could change.Branston, I was just asking if anybody knew and wasn''t referring to a snub. The finishing position doesn''t seem to come into it as Middlesbrough are included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryOne 0 Posted July 6, 2016 If you scroll down the articles on the homepage this was covered , we are next in line and get in if one of the big boys drop out . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 6, 2016 This is the article I refer to; http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36725310 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted July 6, 2016 Ron - you are dead right, if boro are included the PL finishing positions thing makes little sense. I thought I actually read it either here or on the NCFC site. Maybe it was based on u21 finishing positions and I misread it, but I don''t think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryOne 0 Posted July 6, 2016 Norwich City’s development squad will not take part in the new revamped Football League Trophy this season, unless one of the big boys decline to enter the competition. Under radical proposals put forward by the English Football League at their summer AGM, the Premier League’s 15 ‘Category One’ academies, plus Newcastle United, have been invited to join clubs in Leagues One and Two to compete in a new-style format. Relegated Newcastle owe their invite to finishing higher than the Canaries in the league pyramid last season. Norwich City, the next highest-placed league finisher after the Magpies, will only be invited to participate should any of the 16 other elite academies reject the chance to enter. The competition will feature 16 groups of four teams, divided on a regional basis, before a knock-out stage with the final at Wembley. Premier League academies will be able to field teams aged under-23 with three over-age outfield players and a goalkeeper permitted. Supporters groups have reacted angrily to the pilot proposals for the coming season, amid fears it is the first step to incorporating Premier League ‘B’ teams in the English Football League. One of those, Against League 3 (AL3), has already rejected the EFL Trophy plans.“The EFL and its clubs are well aware football fans do not, and have never, supported these plans,” said campaign manager James Cave. “AL3 has regularly canvassed supporters and sought their opinion, as have organisations like Supporters Direct. “Our studies show over 75pc of lower league fans are against the implementation of ‘B’ teams. Yet the ‘B’ teams idea is a mere symptom of a far larger problem in English football: supporters are unrepresented by our FA, our leagues and often our clubs." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 6, 2016 Ah thanks CanaryOne, hadn''t seen that before.👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted July 6, 2016 Sorry if I am being thick, but does this mean that there is a 64 team competition and we are not allowed to take part? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,754 Posted July 6, 2016 If we are offered it I hope we turn it down. Scummy idea from the Premier League trying to turn lower league football into their reserve teams playground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 6, 2016 Basically yep. Lge 1 and 2 and 16 development squads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted July 6, 2016 That''s pretty much the article I''d see - I don''t understand boro being in it though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424 Posted July 6, 2016 Middlesbrough are in the Premier League now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted July 6, 2016 ....you don''t say! They didn''t finish higher than us, though, did they? I maybe misread it, but couldn''t really care less about this ''cup'', nor I''m guessing will supporters (or players) until the final. The most interesting thing is actually that there''s several PL sides without academies (that qualify)....it does show they maybe aren''t required? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424 Posted July 6, 2016 Premier League teams are invited. Boro are in the Premier League this season so they are invited. There are 5 Premier League teams either without Cat 1 Acadmies or who turned down the invite so Newcastle were invited before Norwich due to finishing position last season, to make up the numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted July 7, 2016 What is the thinking in not allowing Championship teams to take part in this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,754 Posted July 7, 2016 @BadgerBecause this is to replace the Johnstone''s Paint Trophy. It isn''t a new competition it is essentially the Premier League taking over a lower league competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted July 7, 2016 This thread is actually mis-named as it is the ''EFL Trophy'' we''re talking about, the ''EFL Cup'' is the old League Cup (ie the one we''ve won) - I believe both have been rebranded and are looking for new sponsors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 7, 2016 BP, yea I realised my mistake too late, and the edit button......oh wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424 Posted July 7, 2016 Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs have all turned down their invites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,754 Posted July 7, 2016 Good. Will serve the people behind this right when it becomes an inevitable farce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 1,040 Posted July 8, 2016 According to F365 Liverpool and Man Utd have also turned it down and there are question marks over some of the other teams. It''s almost as though nobody asked the teams if they were interested in entering it.http://www.football365.com/news/arsenal-and-chelsea-the-latest-to-reject-efl-invite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted July 9, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/08/premier-league-clubs-opt-out-of-revamped-english-football-league-trophy?CMP=share_btn_tw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted July 9, 2016 [quote user="TIL 1010"]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/08/premier-league-clubs-opt-out-of-revamped-english-football-league-trophy?CMP=share_btn_tw[/quote]Nearly twelve thousand posts and you don''t know how to provide a link!? [:O]Here -- [url]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/08/premier-league-clubs-opt-out-of-revamped-english-football-league-trophy?CMP=share_btn_tw[/url] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted July 9, 2016 Has Morty left you in charge of moderation and Policing this forum whilst he is away Jools ? [:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted July 9, 2016 [quote user="TIL 1010"]Has Morty left you in charge of moderation and Policing this forum whilst he is away Jools ? [:P][/quote]Apologies for coming over a tad crotchety there - I had stubbed my toe approximately five minutes before making that post [li] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted July 9, 2016 [quote user="Jools"][quote user="TIL 1010"]Has Morty left you in charge of moderation and Policing this forum whilst he is away Jools ? [:P][/quote]Apologies for coming over a tad crotchety there - I had stubbed my toe approximately five minutes before making that post [li][/quote][Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Browno 37 Posted July 11, 2016 Man City have now opted out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnTheBall 0 Posted July 11, 2016 Tournament''s in crisis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
