Chase Sales vs Delia Sales

[Big Vince 318]

Okay so the conventional Canary wisdom states that Chase was a bad person because he sold too many players for big money. Implicit within this logic is that Delia is a better person because she has not sold too many players for big money.

Okay so Chase sold Watson, Woods, Bruce, Phelan, Townsend, Fleck, Gordon, Sutton, Fox

And then Delia sold Eadie, Bellamy, Ashton, Earnshaw, Green, Snodgrass, Johnson, Grabban, Redmond

Can anyone spot the difference? So who can really sit on the moral high ground in this debate?

[Branston Pickle 3,634]

Yawn

[Hoola Han Solo 448]

What an absolute buffoon you are.

[lappinitup 629]

Delia put about £12m into the club.......Chase only took money OUT.......

[hogesar 9,616]

Havent even read your post because i know itll be rubbish but presuming your argument is based on us selling more upper quality players under Delia can easily be countered by stating we''ve developed and purchased more quality in the same period.

[andy cousins 9]

possibly the most deluded post ever on this page, Delia despite her faults puts money in whereas Chase raped the club for profit, who sold the Euro team off and got us relegated ? who had the fans protesting at the ground ? who sold every valuable player we had and replaced them with cheap players ? who did the Police investigate to try and find the missing cash ?

[Herman 9,711]

This is tiresome. Hurry up season.

[TIL 1010 4,718]

[quote user="Big Vince"]Okay so the conventional Canary wisdom states that Chase was a bad person because he sold too many players for big money. Implicit within this logic is that Delia is a better person because she has not sold too many players for big money.

Okay so Chase sold Watson, Woods, Bruce, Phelan, Townsend, Fleck, Gordon, Sutton, Fox

And then Delia sold Eadie, Bellamy, Ashton, Earnshaw, Green, Snodgrass, Johnson, Grabban, Redmond

Can anyone spot the difference? So who can really sit on the moral high ground in this debate?[/quote]You forgot the fire sale of Newsome and Ward to pay Barclays Bank.

[It's Character Forming 1,160]

[quote user="Big Vince"]Okay so the conventional Canary wisdom states that Chase was a bad person because he sold too many players for big money. Implicit within this logic is that Delia is a better person because she has not sold too many players for big money. Okay so Chase sold Watson, Woods, Bruce, Phelan, Townsend, Fleck, Gordon, Sutton, Fox And then Delia sold Eadie, Bellamy, Ashton, Earnshaw, Green, Snodgrass, Johnson, Grabban, Redmond Can anyone spot the difference? So who can really sit on the moral high ground in this debate?[/quote]

 

Actually this is an excellent post Vince.  Take Chris Sutton - one of the top strikers in the country at the time, and we sold him simply to balance the books.  And that was Chase''s business model.

 

Whereas if you look at the sales under Delia, they''re all cases where the player wanted to go, (caused by relegation in several cases) or in Grabban & Johnson''s cases because we cashed in on big sums for players who weren''t first team regulars.

 

So that''s a pretty fundamental difference for me.

[It's Character Forming 1,160]

It''s still painful to remember the sale of Newsome, tbh.

[Duncan Edwards 2,218]

This is an excellent post.

Perhaps Robert could buy Delia out? I''m sure we''d all welcome back the man who led us to such glory. After all, nobody at Norwich City was more ambitious than him.

Ambition that has clearly been lacking under Delia.

I bet he''d have found a hinvestor too.

Chase In.

[TIL 1010 4,718]

[quote user="Duncan Edwards"]This is an excellent post.

Perhaps Robert could buy Delia out? I''m sure we''d all welcome back the man who led us to such glory. After all, nobody at Norwich City was more ambitious than him.

Ambition that has clearly been lacking under Delia.

I bet he''d have found a hinvestor too.

Chase In.[/quote]#AlongcameDuncan. [:P]

[nutty nigel 7,509]

I wonder if he''d buy Delia out with brown paper envelopes?

Did you ever dip yer mit Vinny boy.....

[Dave 0]

lets compare shall we

Chases Sales

Watson - Sold for big money at the time no swuad investment lined chases pocket

Woods - Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Bruce -Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Phelan -Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Townsend - Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Fleck - wanted out actually spent half on replacement rest lined chases pocket

Gordon- sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Sutton - sold for record 5 million replacement cost 800k rest lined chases pocket

Fox - About 10% spent on replacement rest lined chases pocket

Delia Sales

Eadie - Sold to help balance books thanks to the mess chase left us in - got a good fee for someone on treatment table on regular basis

Bellamy - Sold to help balance books thanks to the mess chase left us in

Ashton - Pretty much forced his way out after it was obvious we wouldnt get promoted

Earnshaw - Had release clause in contract thst he could move to above division

Green - wanted out to go to prem and further England ambitions contract was running down and he wouldnt have signed another

Snodgrass - wanted to stay in prem wanted out

Johnson - ok that will always be a mystery i''ll give you that one

Grabban - Wanted out and was pretty cr@p to be honest cracking fee received

Redmond - Loyal to us in 1st relegation, wanted out in 2nd wasnt always a starter so not a bad sale

[If wed only kept Howie.. 3]

Dave you missed the most damaging Chase sales: Robins, Ekoku and Howie - those sales cost us our original FA Premier League status..

[Dave 0]

There were many chase sales West of Carrow

I was just responding to those of the opening poster

[Yellowbeagle 0]

If you can''t tell the difference transfer wise, you either weren''t there during the Chase reign or you had your head up your own backside the entire time.

[Big Vince 318]

[quote user="Dave"]lets compare shall we

Chases Sales

Watson - Sold for big money at the time no swuad investment lined chases pocket

Woods - Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Bruce -Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Phelan -Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Townsend - Sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Fleck - wanted out actually spent half on replacement rest lined chases pocket

Gordon- sold for big money at the time no squad investment lined chases pocket

Sutton - sold for record 5 million replacement cost 800k rest lined chases pocket

Fox - About 10% spent on replacement rest lined chases pocket

Delia Sales

Eadie - Sold to help balance books thanks to the mess chase left us in - got a good fee for someone on treatment table on regular basis

Bellamy - Sold to help balance books thanks to the mess chase left us in

Ashton - Pretty much forced his way out after it was obvious we wouldnt get promoted

Earnshaw - Had release clause in contract thst he could move to above division

Green - wanted out to go to prem and further England ambitions contract was running down and he wouldnt have signed another

Snodgrass - wanted to stay in prem wanted out

Johnson - ok that will always be a mystery i''ll give you that one

Grabban - Wanted out and was pretty cr@p to be honest cracking fee received

Redmond - Loyal to us in 1st relegation, wanted out in 2nd wasnt always a starter so not a bad sale[/quote]

To say that Chase did not invest in the squad is absolute nonsense. It was one of the key planks in his strategy along with selling big, upgrading the ground/training facilities and balancing the books year-on-year.

Chase invested in the squad by buying the likes of Crook, Bowen, Gunn, Newman, Linighan, Fleck, Townsend, Ekoku, Robins, Phillips and he also had a youth system that actually worked for his strategy because it produced the likes of Gordon, Sutton, Eadie, Fox.

Delia has no youth system that supplies the first team at all and so therefore it neither benefits the club on the pitch nor on the balance sheet. The Academy is simply a community project that serves local youngsters and their parents INSTEAD OF Norwich City. Chase would never have skewed it that way, but then he was not a Mirror reading New Labourite with a soft left agenda. Delia out.

[93vintage 16]

Some people might crow about player sales and financial problems under Chase, but at least we never ended up fielding a team of stuffed with loanees and almost going out of business as we did under the current owners.Yes, Chase was a bad character and hit major cash-flow problems through over-expanding the club''s infrastructure and poor debt management. But in between his exit and the arrival of McNally/Bowkett things eventually got much worse, leading to near bankruptcy in 2009 and having to virtually buy a whole new team.

[Dave 0]

[quote user="93vintage"]Some people might crow about player sales and financial problems under Chase, but at least we never ended up fielding a team of stuffed with loanees and almost going out of business as we did under the current owners.Yes, Chase was a bad character and hit major cash-flow problems through over-expanding the club''s infrastructure and poor debt management. But in between his exit and the arrival of McNally/Bowkett things eventually got much worse, leading to near bankruptcy in 2009 and having to virtually buy a whole new team.[/quote]

Are you serious - "Chase didnt run a club that almost went out of business" Where were you on 21st March 1996 wherr thanks to his dodgy business dealings and money being pocketed by his family firm doing over priced building work on CR we were minutes from going out of business.

An issue that took well over 15 years to put right.

Your right about the academy in someways but those we did produce would have been out the door a lot quicker had Chase been around.

[Old Shuck 183]

Some people will be wanting a statue of Chase outside the stadium soon!Pink Un msg board in 2030 will have the same posters saying what a great manager Roeder was and how on earth did the club see fit to sack Gunn.