im spartacus canary 0 Posted January 23, 2016 Listening to the danny Kelly show on talksport and that''s the general consensus. Never really thought that at the game although he was a bit hung ho I spose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,155 Posted January 23, 2016 No he absolutely didn''t have a nightmare. Yes, he was out of position for their second goal, but apart from that he was pretty good.It was his first game in a new team in a new League in a new country. Overall a promising debut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted January 23, 2016 Put it this way. Imagine if Whittaker had been Pinto today. He didn''t have the best game defensively but none of them did and it was his first game for us and in the PL. I still wonder about wing backs. Pinto and Brady. With three at the back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted January 23, 2016 He was decent to good in attack, absolute horror show in defense. It was more than the 3rd goal. He was marking no one 95% of the time during the game. Good things: He has pace, dribbling skills and is tricky. Didn''t cross the ball very well and isn''t afraid of a tackle but he''s a bit reckless and constantly out of position. We''ll see, wasn''t a nightmare but wasn''t good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted January 23, 2016 No he didn''t have a nightmare.He got caught for pace a bit early on, maybe he was expecting a bit more cover from Redmond, out of position a bit but he did OK.It''s a big change and challenge for a player at a new club, different team mates, in a different league, country etc, but taking all that into account he did well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted January 23, 2016 An intriguing debut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted January 23, 2016 Whittaker would have been slated for it. Martin probably would have been too.But it''s early days for the lad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaemae2 0 Posted January 23, 2016 [quote user="mrs miggins"]An intriguing debut.[/quote]THIS. Too early to tell, seeing as he''s playing a defensive position there were more bad signs than good, but there were positives. Def. showed signs may be decent when/if he adapts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted January 23, 2016 Steve McManaman said on the commentary that Pinto''s defensive position was awful and he seemed to be relying on his pace to get him out of trouble. he''ll nee to learn and adapt pretty quickly.today will have been a harsh lesson for him. but i''m confident he''ll improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooster 134 Posted January 23, 2016 I thought he showed promise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted January 23, 2016 Maybe he is used to playing with a better CB than R Martin I thought pinto did well going forward but why wasn''t the captain telling him to calm it a little keep in position if he did he should have been shouting at him to keep shape and not go wandering this is about pinto not martin but anyone else think martin was going to his left more leaving a gap between him and pinto ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YorkshirePudding 0 Posted January 23, 2016 Jaeme2 has it pretty much nailed on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted January 23, 2016 Well if it was all Martins fault perhaps Whits was OK after all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted January 23, 2016 No not a nightmare, but either was it a great debut for right back, but he showed enough to say he does bring extra pace and capable of getting stuck in, hopefully he will adapt quickly to the PL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thecanaryfan 0 Posted January 23, 2016 It was a poor introduction to PL football. He pushed too high at times and he was def to blame for two goals. Apart from the he played ok I thought. He has the ability to work in the PL, just quickly needs to understand you cant fly forward willy-nilly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havemyhowsonit 0 Posted January 23, 2016 Always was gonna be a tough debut with Redmond as defensive cover and Martin next to him. He was out of position for the first goal too. His defensive headers across our 25 yard line was fairly strange. Too early to judge whether he''s an improvement or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 0 Posted January 23, 2016 Was good for 60 mins but then started to flag should have been substituted at that point result may have been different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billy blue light 0 Posted January 23, 2016 Thought he looked reasonable today, was exposed by the winger and the centreback he was playing with, but also needs to adjust to the PL. Not saying he had a blinder or a stinker, but showed enough promise for me to feel hopeful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRobert 38 Posted January 24, 2016 Got no help from Redmond for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 526 Posted January 24, 2016 For some reason i found it hard to tell Pinto and Martin apart - and his play was no different. He will need to improve, or be played as part of a 5 at the back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billy blue light 0 Posted January 24, 2016 Or you need to get glasses... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooney 0 Posted January 24, 2016 Great potential but Wisdom should have started. At least he knows the pace now though.Brady was immense for 94 minutes and then decided to head the ball back into the mixer instead of putting it out for a corner which would have signalled the final whistle... OUCH!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,155 Posted January 24, 2016 No Mooney - Wisdom shouldn''t have started!!!! That''s because a player can''t play against the club he''s been loaned from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billy blue light 0 Posted January 24, 2016 Agree, Brady should have headed it out for a corner. Not certain I agree Wisdom should have started... isn''t he injured? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billy blue light 0 Posted January 24, 2016 A fair point thirsty! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essjayess 307 Posted January 24, 2016 Recall what Ivo had said early after his move, about Zagreb always winning everything, even after 1st match they knew it was comfort zone, they would win everything, so it was the norm, to just bomb forward etc etc. He also said coming to the Premier was all about learning, adapting, improving. Thats why he came of course. Well the best way to improve, learn, adapt is by being out there, playing the games, today was his very first taste. Keep him there at RB, let him make mistakes, thats how he will learn and adjust. Who cares what tv and radio pundits think of a guy after 1 game, they aint NCFC fans anyway. Miggs was about right, intriguing debut, def. not a nightmare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grim reaper 0 Posted January 24, 2016 GJP agree, awful . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted January 24, 2016 Not entirely but he fell apart along with the rest of the back 5 after 65 mins. Promising tho and I know h can do better than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boris 56 Posted January 24, 2016 Seems we have another Whittaker.Good with ball with good speed and poor on positioning and defense .Pinto look like is more right wing than right back or at least not right back for team who defend most of time in his matches.Sure Dynamo Zagreb play much different and he must learn quick.I not believe too much on Portuguese players they are not good tactically and not smart enough.Despite Christiano and Nani not many shine on EPL. Over all I see also problems come that so many players after 60 min lost confidence(Martin,Pinto,Rudd) and so many was tired after ht because not fully fit o coz not played from long time(Naismith,Pinto)also Howson and Redmind struggle to help enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites