Alan Bowkett steps down

[Gunthorpe 0]

Phillips is the CEO of Delia Ltd - he adds nothing other than ensuring Delia has a voting majority when she uses Fry''s Proxy vote

Claiming Fry brings this and that to the table is rubbish

He does not attend meetings and was invited on the Board by Delia to ensure she would not be out voted

[hogesar 9,658]

Surely if that were the case it would be much easier for her to promote someone else within Delia Ltd to the board.

[nutty nigel 7,531]

I''m well looking forward to these new director announcements. I hope they''re real Pink Un meltdown material. My first choice is Sister Wendy, Jeremy Corbyn and Delia''s nephew Tom....

[Herman 9,756]

Donald Trump will be free to do it soon. And he''s well rich.

[andyc24_uk 59]

If we''re going down the political route surely Ed Balls has to be a good shout? Genuine fan, not exactly overworked these days and whatever your views on politics, undeniably has top level financial experience and contacts...

[......and Smith must score. 1,342]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]I''m well looking forward to these new director announcements. I hope they''re real Pink Un meltdown material. My first choice is Sister Wendy, Jeremy Corbyn and Delia''s nephew Tom....[/quote]No need to hope Nutty.....it''ll be weapons grade meltdown whoever they are [;)]

[Indy 3,297]

It should be Nutty, Til & Purple, that would send some on here to the dark side,

[nutty nigel 7,531]

[quote user="andyc24_uk"]If we''re going down the political route surely Ed Balls has to be a good shout? Genuine fan, not exactly overworked these days and whatever your views on politics, undeniably has top level financial experience and contacts...[/quote]

 

I was going to say him Andy. But I forgot his name[sn] So I plumped for Corbyn.

[PurpleCanary 5,557]

[quote user="morty"]I was asking the question Purple, not trying to make a point. I don''t know anything about Philips.[/quote]No morty, you were not just asking the question and you were trying to make an anti-Fry point. By saying:"Does Phillips at least go to board meetings?" in reference to the respective merits of Fry and Phillips you were plainly comparing Phiilips favourably with Fry by implying with the "at least" that the former does go to board meetings while the latter does not.

[PurpleCanary 5,557]

[quote user="Indy"]It should be Nutty, Til & Purple, that would send some on here to the dark side,[/quote]Including you, Indy?[:D] Actually at least a third of it could happen. As David McNally is fond of saying:"Always good to hear from you, PurpleCanary!"

[Indy 3,297]

Not at all, I don''t always agree with you or Nutty but I have utter respect for your line on this great club. I''m sure if it were to happen it would only be good for the club.

[morty 0]

Actually Purple, if you care to read back it was NN that started the comparison between Fry and Phillips, not I. I have no idea if either of them go to board meetings or not, stop trying to implant an agenda here where there isn''t one.

If you read back further I also said that I have nothing against Fry whatsoever, just so you don''t feel the need to lump me in with the conspiracy theorists and homophobes.

But I can fully understand when people ask the question "What does Stephen Fry do for Norwich City?"

Maybe just take my comments at face value perhaps?

[nutty nigel 7,531]

But it''s not like that questions never been answered Morty.

It was asked at last years AGM and answered as you see from Rickyyys notes. Then it''s asked on this thread and answered. Now you ask it again. So i refer the honourable moderator to the answer Rickyyyy gave earlier. ;)

[Katie Borkins 1]

Jamie Oliver, Gordon Ramsay and Marco Pierre-White.

Too many cooks...

[morty 0]

Last say on it, as I can''t be bothered going round in circles with you over the course of several pages ;)

The answer given is hardly comprehensive, and I haven''t actually seen any tangible benefit from this alleged media exposure that Stephen Fry brings to Norwich City, far more people identify with Delia than even know Stephen Fry is actually on our board.

So, as I said, I can fully understand why people ask the question, as I consider it a reasonable one.

[TIL 1010 4,738]

[quote user="morty"]Last say on it, as I can''t be bothered going round in circles with you over the course of several pages ;)

The answer given is hardly comprehensive, and I haven''t actually seen any tangible benefit from this alleged media exposure that Stephen Fry brings to Norwich City, far more people identify with Delia than even know Stephen Fry is actually on our board.

So, as I said, I can fully understand why people ask the question, as I consider it a reasonable one.[/quote]Huzzah !

[nutty nigel 7,531]

Well that''s all good Morty. I dont argue that the question is reasonable. I just think the answer is reasonable too. I also think because of both the question and the answer that we both know more about the point of Fry than we do the point of Philips.

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,219]

Further to discussions on board value and roles, I sit on the board of several Companies and the "composition of a board" is frequently referred to and considered.

The principle being that as far as possible the range of skills, contacts and specialisms should be covered, quite possibly without any overlap.

In the case of the Norwich board a neutral might have observed:

Bowkett: Corporate Finance, International business

Phillips: Media, local PR

Fry: Entertainment, Celebrity, Social Media

McNally: Football Administration

That such skills are present in genuine fans, plus the passion, investment and national penetration of Delia & Michael, this would look like a nice range of abilities, with a fans eye view throughout.

Parma

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Stephen Fry regularly mixes with high profile celebrities in the UK, the US and beyond. He attends many high profile events and has wealthy friends, associates and friends of friends.

New investment may come from companies already involved in football, though they have likely been approached, evaluated or have already run the rule over Norwich City.

Whilst the rich person''s plaything model has limited scope, it is not unreasonable that celebrity individuals with high disposable income might have an interest in a Premier League football club.

It might be argued that Stephen Fry - as a genuine, evangelical Norwich fan with wide tangential connections - is a decent lightning rod for such a possibility.

At zero real cost it seems a perfectly sound addition to at least cover the possibility.

Parma

[cornish sam 953]

Just an idea about timing (and I have no knowledge of these things so please feel free to shout me down as an idiot if you do), could the timing be because had he not sought re-election at the AGM then an alternative candidate would need to have been presented then and there whereas standing down now means that it can be handled in a much calmer way with the new chairman not needing to be elected and grilled by the masses straight away?

[norfolkbroadslim 223]

[quote user="Essex_Canary"]I do love the conspiracy theories on here.Anyone who knows anything about Alan Bowkett and what he does will understand why there is no conspiracy in his standing down. One look through his CV and you see what his specialisms are in business. He is a business turnaround specialist, he has built his career on working for failing companies, sorting them out and then moving on to the next challenge. Five or six years is about fair, he achieved the impossible in getting the banks to agree to allow the club to waive the repayments on the loans they had defaulted on in 2009 to buy some breathing space while the finances were restructured. Yes Premier League money allowed us to be debt free quickly, but we wouldnt have had the chance of the double promotion if the Bowkett hadn''t worked his magic in League One.His job here is done, and he certainly wouldnt have been short of offers elsewhere, within football or more likely not. He should be a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame because while McNally and Lambert rightfully deserve their praise, Bowkett''s work behind the scenes allowed it to happen.http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/409617/UK-PROFILE---ALAN-BOWKETT/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/profile-emperors-new-shoes-alan-bowkett-didnt-make-clarks-fit-but-that-wont-sink-a-grand-design-says-2321785.html[/quote]

Well, that''s all well and good, but fails to address the main point of him standing for re-election such short time ago.

[norfolkbroadslim 223]

[quote user="Nuff Said"]Is there a cost to the club for each board member?

Are there a fixed number of placed on the board?

Is Stephen Fry taking the place of someone more valuable to the club?

AFAIK,the answer to all these is no, so what is the objection? From what I can see, some people just don''t like him, in which case, just admit it and stop looking for spurious justification why he shouldn''t be there.[/quote]Surely the point should be of justification of why he should be there and not justification of why he shouldn''t.

[norfolkbroadslim 223]

[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="morty"]Last say on it, as I can''t be bothered going round in circles with you over the course of several pages ;)

The answer given is hardly comprehensive, and I haven''t actually seen any tangible benefit from this alleged media exposure that Stephen Fry brings to Norwich City, far more people identify with Delia than even know Stephen Fry is actually on our board.

So, as I said, I can fully understand why people ask the question, as I consider it a reasonable one.[/quote]Huzzah ![/quote]I honestly can''t remember the last time I agreed with Morty on anything and I''m not sure if even I ever have agreed with him on anything, but I completely agree here!

[andyc24_uk 59]

That may be true within the UK and within the older (by ''older'' I''m talking 30+, to my shame and horror!) generation; however I think you''ll find that Fry is far more well know outside the UK than Delia. I''ve been working abroad with people from a wide range of different countries for several years and I''ve yet to meet anyone from outside the UK who knows who she is to be honest. My old ''Delia'' T-shirt used to get just as many confused looks questions as my Gary ''Ginger Pele'' Holt shirt. That''s not in any way an attack on her; just that she''s not (and has never sought to be, as far as I''m aware) an internationally recognised celebrity, whereas Fry is, to some extent.

I also think there''s an age issue - Fry is actually pretty well known and generally liked and respected among the younger/social-media generation, whereas I think a lot of 15-year-olds today would only vaguely know Delia as ''That old woman from the cooking show'' (or, if they know about football, maybe ''That old woman from the cooking show that owns Norwich''.) Again, no slight intended in any way on the Stowmarket 2, just an honest observation. End of the day, it costs us absolutely nothing to have Fry on the board, so even if his contacts bring less benefit than some people would like to think - literally anything he does for us is a net gain from the club''s perspective.

[andyc24_uk 59]

We clearly do need Bowkett''s replacement to be someone with big experience on the financial side of things. Ideally someone with international brand development experience as well, because looking to the future I think we need to look way beyond Norfolk in terms of extending our fanbase and gaining global brand recognition if we are to become a long-term strong, successful club.

[TCCANARY 263]

[quote user="andyc24_uk"] My old ''Delia'' T-shirt used to get just as many confused looks questions as my Gary ''Ginger Pele'' Holt shirt.[/quote]

 

That would confuse a lot of Gary ''Ginger Pele'' Doherty fans!

 

 

[ca 1]

Im looking forward to hearing the news re the changes on the board, Im sure they will be positive for our club

[Indy 3,297]

It will be interesting to see who is lined up and might go a long way to deciding the direction of our club long term.

I''m not convinced it will be anyone mega rich, but would be nice for someone with some clout.

[andyc24_uk 59]

[quote user="TCCANARY"]

[quote user="andyc24_uk"] My old ''Delia'' T-shirt used to get just as many confused looks questions as my Gary ''Ginger Pele'' Holt shirt.[/quote]

 

That would confuse a lot of Gary ''Ginger Pele'' Doherty fans!

 

 

[/quote]

Yes, you make a good point! Had Holty on the brain when I wrote that evidently! Maybe the new chairman''s first act can be to sort out a fecking edit button for this forum...?