Thirsty Lizard 3,215 Posted December 12, 2015 Wow - Lukaku loves it in there doesn''t he. Every time he comes up against Bennett he just jumps straight in never to be seen again till the match ends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted December 12, 2015 Indeed, he must''ve been relieved when he saw the team sheet before the game.When Bennett came on it was not only his defending, but also some of the long passes he was making which were impressive, though he did give it away once.Glad to have Martin at RB as well, can''t do too much damage defensively and can push the team up offensively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint 221 Posted December 12, 2015 Maybe had Bennett been playing from the start (which he should''ve) then Lukaku would''ve been in his pocket all game rather than giving our CB''s the runaround for 45 mins! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holtcantshoot 0 Posted December 12, 2015 [quote user="Clint"]Maybe had Bennett been playing from the start (which he should''ve) then Lukaku would''ve been in his pocket all game rather than giving our CB''s the runaround for 45 mins![/quote]Well yes, you would have thought anyone who had seen how well Bennett and Bassong dealt with Giroud at the last home game would have realised that they are well adept at dealing with physically strong target men. (unlike Martin who struggles dealing with crosses.)Can only hope that the second half performance has enlightened Alex as to his best back four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,711 Posted December 12, 2015 Sorry, Mrs. M., but Bennett is too agricultural to be a good PL defender. I saw him make 3 mistakes in the first 5 minutes after he came on. His attempts at ''long passes'' looked more like lumping the ball up to me, certainly in terms of accuracy. However, he is simply much stronger all round than Martin, who would never have set Wes'' goal up. So, overall, I rate him in the crude but effective camp.Whatever, Russell was much better out wide today, & had a lot more to offer than Wisdom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted December 12, 2015 Second half we cut off the supply to him as well, Luckily he didn''t have his shooting boots on and should have had a first half hat trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted December 12, 2015 "Who put Sanchez in the bin? Super Ryan Bennett". Quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 106 Posted December 12, 2015 If Russell Martin is good as a RB & Ryan Bennett good as a CB, surely we only need André Wisdom as a bit of insurance cover? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted December 12, 2015 ron obvious wrote the following post at 12/12/2015 5:04 PM:Sorry, Mrs. M., but Bennett is too agricultural to be a good PL defender. I saw him make 3 mistakes in the first 5 minutes after he came on. His attempts at ''long passes'' looked more like lumping the ball up to me, certainly in terms of accuracy. However, he is simply much stronger all round than Martin, who would never have set Wes'' goal up. So, overall, I rate him in the crude but effective camp. ----------------------------Its a shame you missed those passes, especially his first one, hit with pin point accuracy to Brady.Also, good header for the goal. As you say he made a few mistakes though if you look at Martin at CB he had a mare in terms of mistakes.On the subject of not being a good PL defender, I think it''s good that people are finally starting to see that he''s a better CB than Martin, however, like in other areas (e.g right back) we do need PL quality. Is Bennett PL quality? Probably not. Is Bassong? Probably not. Is Martin? Probably not. Is Tettey? Probably not. We need to spend the money, which is what we''ve been saying since we won the play-off final. The question is, ''what is our best team at the moment?'' For me it''s Bennett and Bassong in the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,711 Posted December 12, 2015 Hmm. I''ll see if I can find a decent replay for those pin-point passes Mrs. M. I saw one mistake by Martin ( the back pass) but I''ll look out for the others.Certainly agree about our best back 4 (from your other post). Opposition teams will always target any weakness ruthlessly, & Martin''s ultimate lack of strength is terminal for a CB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted December 13, 2015 Bennett is quality, and by far our best centre half. Rate him highly, old school, no nonsense defender. But can also play a bit too. Rarely makes a mistake and great positional sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted December 13, 2015 ron obvious wrote the following post at 12/12/2015 6:50 PM:Hmm. I''ll see if I can find a decent replay for those pin-point passes Mrs. M. I saw one mistake by Martin ( the back pass) but I''ll look out for the others. Certainly agree about our best back 4 (from your other post). Opposition teams will always target any weakness ruthlessly, & Martin''s ultimate lack of strength is terminal for a CB. -----------------------------------------http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2015/12/12/norwich-city-vs-everton-highlights/#4If you watch the 2 half (titled 2H ENG) and go forward to 11:28 you can see the pass by Bennett that I remembered earlier.In terms of Martin (who made a great tackle just after our goal to stop Lukaku I think), if you just watch the normal match of the day I seem to recall them pointing out more than one of his mistakes, and that was just in the short highlights. (tbf no-one was good in that 1st half though). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted December 13, 2015 He''s not as good as Turner used to be and so we''ve gone backwards in that area. He''s doing ok though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted December 13, 2015 [quote user="GJP"]He''s not as good as Turner used to be and so we''ve gone backwards in that area. He''s doing ok though.[/quote]No way. Turner was a decent centre half, but not nearly as talented as Bennett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted December 13, 2015 John Stones = talentedRyan Bennett = ordinary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 335 Posted December 13, 2015 I would agree with Miggins - Bennett with Bassong is probably our best CB partenership; although there really is diddly squat in it. And even "ordinary" is being a little generous - a decent champs stopper is about his limit.Turner was a successful and able premier standard defender until time caught up with him here - he remains a solid if uninspiring mid table champs defender.For me wisdom is still the best defender for right back - but both martin & whittaker are better going forward; he was comfortably the city defender yesterday before his injury - all of the gaps and errors were in the middle and left first half; and then right and centre second half. As was perfectly pointed out by an earlier poster Bennett had the advantage of us being on the front foot second half - he wasnt called into action often and proably a good thing as his position remains suspect - just fortunate not to be caught out for it. His talents are overrated - probably as its a case of anyone is better than Russ (similar syndrome for Rudd/Ruddy)A couple of centre backs is the minimum signing need for Jan - and the priority Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted December 13, 2015 Much prefer Bennett to Turner.Better passerMuch more paceBetter header of the ball (Although Turner was tall, like Martin, he headed straight to the oppositions midfield from long balls)Bennett''s positioning is weaker though.Turner was an old fashioned CB. Bennett is more of an all rounder. This is not to say that he brilliant; he''s jack of a lot of trades, but a master of none.We need defenders, we all know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites