Gunthorpe 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Dead CGood points but :-How long is David McD''s notice period & how do you know this ? . If he just walks all the Club can do is claim compensation - if he did walk we would be in a very difficult position. He may well have been recommended to Delia but during the previous 5 years up to his appointment she had struggled to surrounded herself with good advisers hence the relegation to L1Board member''s - classed as Delia''s mates (nice term not meant to be derogatory)Phillips - CEO of Delia LtdFry - Celebrity who does not attend meetings and only a few gamesBalls - locally educated failed MPAre you claiming that any of these 3 would be on the Norwich City Board if the Stowmarket 2 were not majority shareholders ?In my view no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunthorpe 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Mr Apples wrote the following post at 30/12/2015 3:07 PM:There''s something strangely comforting about Newton''s return to the messageboard...it''s like seeing an old tramp shouting at pigeons in the park for the first time during Spring and realising he''s made it through another cold, wet winter and there just may be hope for us all. Good for you Newton, you keep coming up with the FACTS. Apples lovely comment - would not expect more from a viewless TrollPlease don''t let me or anyone else down, carry on accusing every poster of being someone else and whatever you do - please do not ever express an opinionWhat a manZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant Holts Moustache 105 Posted December 30, 2015 Gunthorpe I have no followers here and don''t see what difference it would make on the discussion even if I did. Yes I respect Delia and can see the positives and the negatives under her stewardship but what I dislike is how you are narrowing the argument to one bad spell and not the many years of good work either side of it. Balls is a top economist and being voted out as a politician has nothing to do with the abilities he can bring to the table. Especially at a time when people vote more on personality rather than skills. This is a guy with an incredible education at two of the world''s finest universities. One of which he now teaches at. Before he was a politician he was chief advisor to the treasury for 7 years (5 years before the crisis started) achieving things such as a National Minimum wage, sure start children''s centres and tax credits for the poorest families in our society to name but a few things. I would also add most top football clubs don''t have someone of this stature because they can''t attract them as it''s something you do for the love of it and not the money. Most MPs walk into plum jobs paying fortunes after holding the positions he has. He is going to work for a club he supports for free. I would say that the club did well on this one and has probably only come about because of Delia and Michaels friendship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,618 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="Mr Apples"]There''s something strangely comforting about Newton''s return to the messageboard...it''s like seeing an old tramp shouting at pigeons in the park for the first time during Spring and realising he''s made it through another cold, wet winter and there just may be hope for us all. Good for you Newton, you keep coming up with the FACTS. Apples[/quote]Yeah. I like the little fella too. [:D]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,317 Posted December 30, 2015 But you didn''t deny your identity did you, and you only deal in FACTS? If you''re going to pretend to be someone else at least change your (barely literate) writing style. Here''s my view - Would you rather be in our position with our Board or in the place of someone like Bolton/Portsmouth (with the people they have had running them)? That''s a question too btw, so I''ll expect an answer...any time you like. Apples Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted December 30, 2015 The op may be a troll from down the road ,,, but he does have a point , regardless of whether or not they are "nicer" individuals than those on the board of other clubs. We are seriously lacking in astute business people on the board . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant Holts Moustache 105 Posted December 30, 2015 Gunthorpe Re. Notice Period and Board MembersIt''s standard practice for a CEO across all businesses to have a much longer notice period due to the importance of their role to the organisation. I couldn''t tell you what McNallys is but usually 6 months or a year is standard for that type of role.As for the make up Phillips is there to oversee Delias catering enterprises within the club which makes sense to me.Balls locally educated? You may need to look at a map because last time I looked Harvard and Oxford weren''t local to the fine city of Norwich. Nottingham isn''t local either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted December 30, 2015 "We are seriously lacking in astute business people on the board ."Apart from Delia, Michael, Michael, David, Stephan and Stephen,we have no successful business people on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 30, 2015 Am I the only one getting confused?[*-)] According to Newt...sorry, Gunthorpe, Smith and Jones appointing another chum to the board means they are (back?) running things, and that is bad. Very bad. But because Smith and Jones and all their chums, old and new, are idiots that means McNally is now even more able to run things than he used to, and that is good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,317 Posted December 30, 2015 Still waiting for that answer Newton... Apples Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
As my login causes problems [ :o) ] 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Like Purple I am confused by this backwards and forwards motioning of good or bad.The fact is our owners have control and bring in who they like. They need not answer to anyone apart from the fact that they hope to put together an offering that people (fans, players, TV companies, sponsors etc) would like to be a part of.By my reckoning they are doing that and if the people they choose to assist are part of that then they are doing the task required so may I be allowed to say "carry on everybody"?Now if there is a spare seat at the pre match meal and in the directors'' box I''m free .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,219 Posted December 30, 2015 Gunthorpe,Having responded to your thread in a respectful way, purporting as it did to have a genuine theme, I am now unconvinced that your primary motivation is genuine discussion.Simply adding a question to the end of posts, often provocative and direct to individuals appears designed to simply elicit any kind of response, generating a round-Robin pyramid-scheme of attention.Parma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="Mr Apples"]Still waiting for that answer Newton...Apples[/quote]The big question is - why did Newton change his name from Gunthorpe to Briston...and then change it back again?I just hope he doesn''t get so confused when he''s filling in his benefit claims form. [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Could it be because he''s a troll? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funny old game 1 Posted December 30, 2015 My board selection would be (taking the recent appointment of the new chairman), Foulger, MWJ & Delia, Fry, Stringer, Huckerby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="JF"]McNally "we won''t be reckless with our spending in the window" Oh, Go on, try it Dave. You may get a taste for it![/quote]Why have you missed the first part of what he said ?He said we WILL be AMBITOUS but NOT WRECKLESS. You are changing his words so that you can slag of our football club for no reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,282 Posted December 30, 2015 Delia backed Balls to the hilt - preceding and during the General Election........Alas, only his wife Yvette retained her position as an MP.......Did his failure to be voted back in as an MP mean that he was a failure as an MP or Government Minister?.......Who knows?....... The fact is, the electorate decided Balls wasn''t to be their man - (for reasons known only to them).......But Delia had faith in him - and makes no secret of the fact of her political leanings.......Just curious, that if the Majority Shareholder had instructed the club media to distribute ''voting yes or no slips'' to all the 20,000+ Season Ticket holders on whether Mr Ed Balls should be appointed Chairman.......I wonder how the vote would have gone?.......And, would he have been appointed our current Chairman? Regarding my thoughts/opinion on his appointment? Personally, cronyism and nepotism spring to mind in Mr Balls'' being given the role as Chairman.......But hey, that''s only my opinion......Whether it''s political, friendship (social or socialist) or he''s the right man or not?.......The Matriarch at the end of the day (in my opinion), probably calls the shots........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRobert 38 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="Mello Yello"]Delia backed Balls to the hilt - preceding and during the General Election........Alas, only his wife Yvette retained her position as an MP.......Did his failure to be voted back in as an MP mean that he was a failure as an MP or Government Minister?.......Who knows?....... The fact is, the electorate decided Balls wasn''t to be their man - (for reasons known only to them).......But Delia had faith in him - and makes no secret of the fact of her political leanings.......Just curious, that if the Majority Shareholder had instructed the club media to distribute ''voting yes or no slips'' to all the 20,000+ Season Ticket holders on whether Mr Ed Balls should be appointed Chairman.......I wonder how the vote would have gone?.......And, would he have been appointed our current Chairman? Regarding my thoughts/opinion on his appointment? Personally, cronyism and nepotism spring to mind in Mr Balls'' being given the role as Chairman.......But hey, that''s only my opinion......Whether it''s political, friendship (social or socialist) or he''s the right man or not?.......The Matriarch at the end of the day (in my opinion), probably calls the shots........[/quote]^^^Very much this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,092 Posted December 30, 2015 I would be more worried about our majority shareholders if they appointed a chairman they didn''t get on with.And I believe Winston Churchill lost his parliamentary seat too - would you describe him as a "failed politician" as well Gunthorpe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,136 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="Mello Yello"]Delia backed Balls to the hilt - preceding and during the General Election........Alas, only his wife Yvette retained her position as an MP.......Did his failure to be voted back in as an MP mean that he was a failure as an MP or Government Minister?.......Who knows?....... The fact is, the electorate decided Balls wasn''t to be their man - (for reasons known only to them).......But Delia had faith in him - and makes no secret of the fact of her political leanings.......Just curious, that if the Majority Shareholder had instructed the club media to distribute ''voting yes or no slips'' to all the 20,000+ Season Ticket holders on whether Mr Ed Balls should be appointed Chairman.......I wonder how the vote would have gone?.......And, would he have been appointed our current Chairman? Regarding my thoughts/opinion on his appointment? Personally, cronyism and nepotism spring to mind in Mr Balls'' being given the role as Chairman.......But hey, that''s only my opinion......Whether it''s political, friendship (social or socialist) or he''s the right man or not?.......The Matriarch at the end of the day (in my opinion), probably calls the shots........[/quote]Five questions and an incorrect statement re Yvette Cooper, seems to point to a troubled mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,282 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="A Load of Squit"][quote user="Mello Yello"]Delia backed Balls to the hilt - preceding and during the General Election........Alas, only his wife Yvette retained her position as an MP.......Did his failure to be voted back in as an MP mean that he was a failure as an MP or Government Minister?.......Who knows?....... The fact is, the electorate decided Balls wasn''t to be their man - (for reasons known only to them).......But Delia had faith in him - and makes no secret of the fact of her political leanings.......Just curious, that if the Majority Shareholder had instructed the club media to distribute ''voting yes or no slips'' to all the 20,000+ Season Ticket holders on whether Mr Ed Balls should be appointed Chairman.......I wonder how the vote would have gone?.......And, would he have been appointed our current Chairman? Regarding my thoughts/opinion on his appointment? Personally, cronyism and nepotism spring to mind in Mr Balls'' being given the role as Chairman.......But hey, that''s only my opinion......Whether it''s political, friendship (social or socialist) or he''s the right man or not?.......The Matriarch at the end of the day (in my opinion), probably calls the shots........[/quote]Five questions and an incorrect statement re Yvette Cooper, seems to point to a troubled mind.[/quote]Troubled mind......Mine, or yours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted December 30, 2015 Lol we''ll be back! If you think I was slagging the club of with that jokey post you are probably a bit too precious to last long on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,136 Posted December 30, 2015 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="A Load of Squit"][quote user="Mello Yello"]Delia backed Balls to the hilt - preceding and during the General Election........Alas, only his wife Yvette retained her position as an MP.......Did his failure to be voted back in as an MP mean that he was a failure as an MP or Government Minister?.......Who knows?....... The fact is, the electorate decided Balls wasn''t to be their man - (for reasons known only to them).......But Delia had faith in him - and makes no secret of the fact of her political leanings.......Just curious, that if the Majority Shareholder had instructed the club media to distribute ''voting yes or no slips'' to all the 20,000+ Season Ticket holders on whether Mr Ed Balls should be appointed Chairman.......I wonder how the vote would have gone?.......And, would he have been appointed our current Chairman? Regarding my thoughts/opinion on his appointment? Personally, cronyism and nepotism spring to mind in Mr Balls'' being given the role as Chairman.......But hey, that''s only my opinion......Whether it''s political, friendship (social or socialist) or he''s the right man or not?.......The Matriarch at the end of the day (in my opinion), probably calls the shots........[/quote]Five questions and an incorrect statement re Yvette Cooper, seems to point to a troubled mind.[/quote]Troubled mind......Mine, or yours?[/quote]Another question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumbria Canary 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Probably better to concern ourselves with matters on the pitch than worry about the composition of our board. If we had some of the people in charge of football clubs these days I would worry but happily our board is made up of people who love the club. Of course you could always move your support down the road if you''re seriously concerned but me I''m happy to put my trust in people who have long experience of running a football club and who for the most part have done a very good job. When does school start again ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunthorpe 0 Posted December 30, 2015 PurpleCanary wrote the following post at 30/12/2015 3:37 PM: Am I the only one getting confused? According to Newt...sorry, Gunthorpe, Smith and Jones appointing another chum to the board means they are (back?) running things, and that is bad. Very bad. But because Smith and Jones and all their chums, old and new, are idiots that means McNally is now even more able to run things than he used to, and that is good...Purple if I have confused you it must be a first - now you know how 99% of the other ,posters feel when they are subject to your banal epics I think you have reverted back to your silly play on words which you often do (someone else mentioned this very recently) when you know the poster is making a valid point but it goes against what you want to hear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunthorpe 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Mr Apples wrote the following post at 30/12/2015 3:27 PM: But you didn''t deny your identity did you, and you only deal in FACTS? If you''re going to pretend to be someone else at least change your (barely literate) writing style. Here''s my view - Would you rather be in our position with our Board or in the place of someone like Bolton/Portsmouth (with the people they have had running them)? That''s a question too btw, so I''ll expect an answer...any time you like.Apples I am not quite sure why you & the other Haunting Trolls are trying to accuse me of being someone else (why) & trying to twist my original post into support for or against the current ownersWhat are you all doing ? But then we all know the reason - someone posting a valid comment that you all dont agree with What I said was with the recent change at Chaiman it (in my view) has left McNally with even more influence on a day to day basis at the club given the fact that the guy who overviewed the finances so successfully has walked (Bowkett)Plus as David McD''s is just a paid employee . If he just walks all the Club can do is claim compensation - if he did walk we would be in a very difficult position. He may well have been recommended to Delia but during the previous 5 years up to his appointment she had struggled to surrounded herself with good advisers hence the relegation to L1You look at the Job McD has done & I would have thought Clubs like Sunderland / Newcastle etc must have thought about approaching himNext pointBoard member''s - classed as Delia''s mates (nice term not meant to be derogatory)Phillips - CEO of Delia LtdFry - Celebrity who does not attend meetings and only a few gamesBalls - locally educated failed MPAre you claiming that any of these 3 would be on the Norwich City Board if the Stowmarket 2 were not majority shareholders ?In my view no. What this has to do with Bolton or Portsmouth is beyond me plus what is it the verbose Purple cant understand & yes I accept it is much to short a post for Parma Ham to grasp what I am saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted December 30, 2015 Is the suggestion that the majority shareholders should ballot all shareholders on who the chairman should be?Would seem a pointless waste of money and no way to run a business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted December 30, 2015 To be fair it should have been advertised in EDP jobs 24, charity work section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunthorpe 0 Posted December 30, 2015 Bor & Jenkins - this is probably what actually happens nowThat must explain many of the recent Managerial Appointments, with the interviews taking place in local pubs ?Nice one boys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted December 30, 2015 I bet you''re a whiz at chess Gunthorpe. Wouldn''t want to play you mate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites