norfolkngood 1,086 Posted January 15, 2016 problem with signing strikers from other foreign leagues is they are not as strong as premier league where any team can beat any other team foreign leagues have a couple of very good clubs that are strong and a lot of very weaker teams so scoring records can look better than english leagues having said that that''s where you can pick up bargains this player looks like one that might well be the case 6 ft 2 and knows where the goal is young so maybe still improving a gamble yes ( like all players ) but I would rather this type of player with bags of potential than a tired old tried and tested low scoring PL player like gayle who is never going to set the PL alight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted January 15, 2016 Dutch league is a long way behind the quality of the Portuguese League Ricky was in Morty.I''ve seen Haller play in the flesh a few times and he has always stood out amongst the rest of the players on the pitch. Some in Holland say he would be better suited on the wing if playing in England (or Germany where most assumed he would end up). He''s very quick and very good on the ball, but possibly not up to leading the line in one of the ''big'' leagues yet.Talk of him having a medical with Norwich is very premature, if he leaves Utrecht I imagine it will be deadline day, for around £10m rather than the £6.5m being quoted. Utrecht don''t need/want to sell - but few teams in Holland can refuse big offers like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted January 15, 2016 [quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Dutch league is a long way behind the quality of the Portuguese League Ricky was in Morty.I''ve seen Haller play in the flesh a few times and he has always stood out amongst the rest of the players on the pitch. Some in Holland say he would be better suited on the wing if playing in England (or Germany where most assumed he would end up). He''s very quick and very good on the ball, but possibly not up to leading the line in one of the ''big'' leagues yet.Talk of him having a medical with Norwich is very premature, if he leaves Utrecht I imagine it will be deadline day, for around £10m rather than the £6.5m being quoted. Utrecht don''t need/want to sell - but few teams in Holland can refuse big offers like that.[/quote]Fair enough, my opinion was only based on the odd game in each, I don''t follow either regularly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted January 15, 2016 a lot of leagues abroad are quite weak other than the handful big super clubs in each division i think that''s where Norwich have to be smart and if there is a stand out younger player playing for one of the lesser clubs we have to snap him up because once he has made a name for himself we wont be able to afford him but its not easy and a gamble as we are in that pool of clubs all looking for players like that but this is what annoys me if we find that player and want a player we have to move quicker and smarter we are a premiership club there must be a lot of good younger players like haller who dream of playing in the EPL this is the place to make a name for yourself we can offer 1st team football and i would think better wages than a lot of clubs in Europe ( not the bigger clubs obviously )so it really is our chance to get these players in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted January 15, 2016 The Dutch league is a poor one, however does have some really good players in it. Whether Halller will be another RVW or Bony (who scored 31 goals in 30 games in his last season there acc to wiki) remains to be seen. For £7m its worth the punt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted January 15, 2016 The Dutch league is hugely enjoyable, but does lack quality.Even the historically big clubs aren''t great anymore. PSV are the first Dutch team to get beyond the Champions'' League group stage since 2006/7. Crazy when you think about how strong they and Ajax use to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncfc2012 0 Posted January 15, 2016 his agent confirmed they were in norwich yesterday but won''t be joining as he wants european football Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted January 15, 2016 We can forget Haller. Agent has confirmed Sebastian was at Carrow Rd yesterday but the player wants European football. So why did Haller and his agent waste our time visiting Carrow Rd??????? Dicks.http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/sebastien-haller-denies-possible-norwich-move/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted January 15, 2016 For European football read ''wants European football or a extra money''.Very unusual for a player to visit a club without a deal in place with his club though. Wonder if agent is using royal we, or Haller has a couple of representatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolkn Good 7 Posted January 15, 2016 “We have indeed visited Norwich’s training ground yesterday, and Utrecht’s representatives have a good relationship with those at Norwich. But Sébastien is unlikely to join Norwich. We are looking for a club that plays European football. If a club that is playing European football offers us something and they reach an agreement with Utrecht, then a departure this winter is possible.""Unlikely" is the key word. I''d like to play European football this year but that''s not going to happen either. Guess it''s all about £££££''s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 271 Posted January 15, 2016 and he was training with utrecht again today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted January 15, 2016 Another bizarre transfer saga on the cards here then. Sigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 15, 2016 Why would the player sign before the end of January (unless we were throwing ridiculous money at him, which we won''t) - surely he''s going to wait and see if anything else "more attractive" comes in?Fans moan that we''re not signing a good calibre of player, but if we want to target those players there will be competition and long drawn out deals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted January 15, 2016 Last time I looked Norwich was definitely in Europe as are all our opponents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted January 15, 2016 Does that mean we are not going to sign him for at least another 10 days, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted January 15, 2016 At least it sounds like the Dwight Gayle story maybe nonsense if we''re looking at other strikers. We dodged a bullet with Glen Murray, and I hope we do with Gayle - I think we can do better, with all due respect to Gayle, and with us only half way through the transfer window I believe we will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dibbler 0 Posted January 15, 2016 2 hrs ago:http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/norwich-reach-e8-5m-agreement-for-sebastien-haller/According to our colleagues at RMC, Premier League side Norwich have reached a fee agreement with Dutch side Utrecht for the transfer of highly-rated young French striker Sébastien Haller.The player must now agree personal terms and undergo a medical in order to complete the move, but a deal looks close at the time of writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 668 Posted January 15, 2016 There''s a reason why most of the deals go through on the last day or two of the window. Often it comes right down to the last few hours. Players and agents will wait until as late as possible to make sure they don''t miss a better last minute deal from a desperate club. Why would you sign now if waiting for a couple of weeks will boost your deal? There''s no way he came all the way over here to suddenly discover we were 15th in the table and European football was not going to happen. He''s got our offer and now its a wait and see if anything better turns up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted January 15, 2016 I would image will would be offering nearly double / treble his wages if not more and if they will not shift him nothing will !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted January 15, 2016 His ''agent'' trying to squeeze a last minute, better offer, from somewhere else perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted January 15, 2016 Good points, Hairy. Must admit I read the agents comments as almost gospel, a schoolboy error. Haller has at least had some interest from Tottenham, and I believe Everton too, amongst others, so it''s understandable this will be drawn out to the death - I don''t think he''ll sign for anyone before transfer deadline day unless Spurs renew their interest. Can only hope it''s us but if he''s as decent as many say then there will be plenty of competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 556 Posted January 15, 2016 Puzzling!Haller''s agent is playing a dangerous game if there is any life left in the potential transfer.Maybe the player wants the weekend to mull things over whilst his agent has one last go at luring interest.Hope we get him but this isn''t the story I was expecting to see today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted January 15, 2016 I have a feeling Haller won''t end up going anywhere this window and will move somewhere in the summer. He''s only been at Utrecht a short time and is building a good reputation but imagine the ''bigger'' clubs will want to watch him a little longer to see if it is just a short term thing or if he is the real deal.Whilst I can''t see any English teams who are challenging for Europe being interested, I''m sure teams in Germany and France will also be looking at him.I guess it will come down to whether he does want European football, or if he wants more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted January 15, 2016 I cant find any association between Loic Gustan ( person claiming to be players agent) and Hallers Agency company on Transfermarket which is Agence La Vignette.Odd............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Flash 13 Posted January 15, 2016 This saga just shows how difficult it is to pull off transfer deals in this window, despite those criticising the Club for lack of activity! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted January 15, 2016 Anyone who''s moaning at a lack of activity is blind. We''ve been as busy as anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted January 15, 2016 as he was here at colney we must have agreed the fee with club because you can not talk to player and agent without their clubs blessing also I would imagine wages were also talked about when he was here or before he came over so I would say the club has done as much as it can its up to the player and agent now like I said earlier I don''t know how much he is on there 10 k a week ? we should be able to treble that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essjayess 307 Posted January 15, 2016 Its pretty clear what happened yesterday. City and Utrecht have a close association, not surprising because of the proximity. Both clubs pretty much agreed on a sum, and Haller, being a Utrecht player, was obligated to come see our facilities, do a tour, blah de blah, as instructed by his club. But the guy himself, via his agent, wants only to move to a club that will give him European football, i.e, Europa Cup or Champions league. That for sure rules us out, and rules Villa out to. Reports of Spurs interested, so likely they will interest him.Haller being in town rules out the sightings of De Maio, the guys look so similar and have same forename. The Haller story is very similar to Naismiths, being that two clubs can agree a fee and a deal all they want, but end of day its the player himself, and his agent, that have the final say.So truth is at this moment, there is no Haller, no Naismith, no De Maio. People can debate what they like and say this or that, but until anyone signs on the line, they aint City. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted January 15, 2016 [quote user="Molly Windley"]I cant find any association between Loic Gustan ( person claiming to be players agent) and Hallers Agency company on Transfermarket which is Agence La Vignette.Odd...............[/quote]Hallers was with the Score Agency as a player in June of 2015 when other teams tried to sign him in the summer with his agent being stated as the well known David Venditelli.These statements from "his agent" Loic Gustan" just do not ring true to me, Gustan`s twitter account looks nothing like a professional agents account and Im calling this as bull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted January 15, 2016 Players often have more than one agent, sometimes they work in different territories (knowledge of the league and similar deals is vital in negotiations), sometime they have a couple of people who work in partnership, sometimes they have a deal with a company who have many different agents working for them, sometimes they are just ''representatives'' - not licensed agents but people who support and advise players. Also Transfermarket is often very inaccurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites