Horse Renoir 1 Posted November 7, 2015 GJLI don''t see Mulumbu as a defensive player. He''s a good, strong all round midfielder who always does his defensive duties. As a manager you''d love a player like him, some attacking threat with no risk at all in defence by playing him (Jarvis is another one of these players), he''s a managers dream and I''m really surprised Pulis let him go, I would have thought he''s the perfect type of player for him...AnywayBrady when out left wouldn''t have to commit too much defensively, especially with Olsson overlapping and providing crosses alongside the tricky passing approach I was advocating before. That left hand side gives us another dynamic that means Swansea couldn''t settle into one shape to deal with one type of attack. It would stretch them and hopefully create a lot of chances.Also I do think it leaves us too open to counter attacks. Sorry, but I''d rather win 2-1 than lose 3-4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,747 Posted November 7, 2015 .....to win 2-1, we have to score 2 goals..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Renoir 1 Posted November 7, 2015 Also I think Redmond''s best performances for us have been as a sub. I think we''d get much more out of him in 30 minutes at the end than starting the whole game.He''d be pi55ed off to be known as a super-sub, but I believe that''s his best role Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted November 7, 2015 I would imagine with the loss of Jarvis that Brady will be pushed up to become a winger.RuddyWhitts, Bennett, Bassong, OlssonTetteyRedmond Mulumbu Brady1 of Howson or HoolahanJerome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Renoir 1 Posted November 7, 2015 GJLI explained how this approach would get goals. By stretching their defence. To cope with lots of crosses the CB''s have to be spaced out to meet the ball anywhere in the box. If we try to play through them they have to be tight to shut down space, the team and approach I suggested did both of these things meaning Swansea''s defence would get stressed and we would score goals.Just having more attacking players on the pitch doesn''t equal more goals, just look at NA tenure. At this level it''s about being clever and outsmarting the opposition.Redmond and Hoolahan in the same team is too risky and never seems to lead to us creating more chances. We create just as many with just one on the pitch and we''d be more solid at the back as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,747 Posted November 7, 2015 as i said....this is all very well, but what if we go 1-0 down ,as we did vs Leicester. Neil, should have brought Redmond on at half time in that match, but unfortunately waited until we went 2-0 down before acting, and only when he came on did we look any kind of threat.being a goal down at home to a side who''d then be quite happy to defend and catch us on the break....when we have absolutely no pace in the side or anyone who can beat a full back and get a cross in ,would be painful viewing..I''d rather start on the front foot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Renoir 1 Posted November 7, 2015 Swansea are a completely different proposition to Leicester though.In the Championship we were regularaly undone by simple, long balls and pace. That''s because our defence was assembled by Hughton to shut down spaces, read danger early and stop technical players. They''re great at that. They''re not good at aerial defending or tackling pacy players (Something very useful in the lower league) Leicester are basically the best team in the country at playing the pacy, counter attacking way. Which is our weakness and we got done by the best at it...sh!t happens.Swansea are the exact opposite, they condence the pitch and try to play through teams like we do, except we''ll box them into their half and they haven''t got the pace to counter us. I''d be shocked if we concede more than one today and I think we''re very capable of scoring against them as long as our passing is quick and our play is dynamic and varied.I''m very confident about today because Swansea don''t seem to have the type of players or play-style that we normally struggle against. And we''re at home in a must win game, we have a hoodo over Swansea and Alex Neil will not allow a team he manages to go 7 games without a win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iron_stan 0 Posted November 7, 2015 ruddymartin bennett bassong olsson mulumbu tetteyredmond jarvis brady jeromemulumbu, tettey and jerome to rough ''em up, redmond jarvis and bradys pace to turn the screw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRobert 38 Posted November 7, 2015 [quote user="iron_stan"] ruddymartin bennett bassong olsson mulumbu tetteyredmond jarvis brady jeromemulumbu, tettey and jerome to rough ''em up, redmond jarvis and bradys pace to turn the screw[/quote]Martin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,747 Posted November 7, 2015 jarvis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted November 7, 2015 [quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="iron_stan"] ruddymartin bennett bassong olsson mulumbu tetteyredmond jarvis brady jeromemulumbu, tettey and jerome to rough ''em up, redmond jarvis and bradys pace to turn the screw[/quote]Martin?[/quote]Chris Martin from Coldplay.A secret free transfer in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted November 7, 2015 [quote user="Bor"]I have included Dorrans as deep midfielder because he can use the ball better than the more destructive but limited Tettey. Mulumbu can provide Tettey''s bite and destruction and is a better passer. Tettey comes back for away games when we need to absorb more and push less.[/quote]This - plus Dorrans and Mulumbu are used to playing together from their WBA days. Would pick the same team as you, Bor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iron_stan 0 Posted November 7, 2015 [quote user="OldRobert"]Martin?[/quote]forgot about the red!didnt realise jarvis had a knock eitherin that case, swap them for steen nedergaard and dave phillips Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted November 7, 2015 [quote user="iron_stan"][quote user="OldRobert"]Martin?[/quote]forgot about the red!didnt realise jarvis had a knock eitherin that case, swap them for steen nedergaard and dave phillips[/quote]Sorry to break it to you, Stan, but we sold them and replaced them with Jurgen Colin and Raymond de Waard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRobert 38 Posted November 7, 2015 [quote user="morty"][quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="iron_stan"] ruddymartin bennett bassong olsson mulumbu tetteyredmond jarvis brady jeromemulumbu, tettey and jerome to rough ''em up, redmond jarvis and bradys pace to turn the screw[/quote]Martin?[/quote]Chris Martin from Coldplay.A secret free transfer in the summer.[/quote]Aaaah..........did Gwynnie arrive too? With those legs she''d make a great flying winger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanNorwichFan 0 Posted November 7, 2015 @NorwichCityFC: TEAM: Ruddy; Wisdom, Bennett, Bassong, Olsson; Howson, Tettey (c), O''Neil, Brady; Hoolahan; Jerome. #ncfc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanNorwichFan 0 Posted November 7, 2015 No Redmond on bench. 0_0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted November 7, 2015 Howson again. He must be epic in training. A conservative team lacking flair but strong in the middle at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanNorwichFan 0 Posted November 7, 2015 Good bench. Mulumbu, Ofoe, Laffs, Mbokani, Dorrans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,153 Posted November 7, 2015 "Good bench. Mulumbu, Ofoe, Laffs, Mbokani, Dorrans"Not if we lose one of the back four.No Redmond?O''Neill preferred to Mulumbu?I think it''s awful, but I used to think that about Lambert''s teams on occasions and he got results.We''ll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted November 7, 2015 could there ever be room for Mbokani and Jerome together? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iron_stan 0 Posted November 7, 2015 really unbalanced selectionbad move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Renoir 1 Posted November 7, 2015 JasIf we had pace and incisive runningin the side and didn''t mind conceding 70% of the possession, then yeah we could play them both. otherwise I''d really rather stick with a 5 man midfield and try to compete with teams.Every time we''ve tried a 442 in recent memory it''s been disastrous. It''s outdated and ineffective now. Apart from Leicester and Man City (Only occasionally) who else in any of the top leagues play with two strikers regularly? Not many I''d bet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted November 7, 2015 Let''s hope AN has a smug face at the end after we''ve smashed Swansea with one of the most unpredicted starting XI''s ever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites