Hairy Kenneth 0 Posted November 29, 2015 No offence taken-you have your opinion and I have mine. Do you not agree that we have moved to a more defensive approach since Newcastle which gives the back 4 much more protection? They were very exposed because the midfield were way up the pitch quite often up there with the fullbacks. I don''t disagree that we look much better-but this tactical change is a contributing factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firststeps 0 Posted November 29, 2015 I do agree, but it is the same formation(ish), just a fiddle with the players. I think Martin going forward has always showed promise, but defensively, this league is above him. I agree to disagree. I''m really really pleased for Bennett however, if he should remain injury free I think he has a lot of promise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlyfendweller 0 Posted November 29, 2015 I think RM offers a lot when we play teams at a similar level to us because he offers us something different in the way he defends (See Parma). But it seems RB has more traditional CB attributes that suit the men behind the ball, siege style of defending. This has suited us recently and as much as love I RM he does have a tendency to get caught under the ball sometimes. This loses a bit of bite and assertiveness when heading it clear. Bennet does this so well and I think it''s why AN prefers him at the moment. It will be interesting see which game he comes back in for! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firststeps 0 Posted December 12, 2015 Recalled... ******* joke! AN you are fast becoming a joke yourself! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted December 12, 2015 At least we have someone to blame if we lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 309 Posted December 12, 2015 He gave the ball away cheaply resulting in the corner that Olsson failed to clear. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,421 Posted December 12, 2015 He hasn''t won a thing against Kone yet and is playing like he is wearing diving boots.His body language off the ball isn''t looking too sharp either.I have resisted the Martin-bashing threads so far but he looks more and as though he is selected upon past glories...at a lower level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firststeps 0 Posted December 12, 2015 He''s not a shadow on Bennett. It''s a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firststeps 0 Posted December 12, 2015 Defence is a shambles an absolute shambles. Yes, I do blame Martin, he''s the captain and the defender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firststeps 0 Posted December 12, 2015 I quote the commentary team, Martin makes "mistake after mistake after mistake"!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kenneth 0 Posted December 12, 2015 I know he''s not been at his best but there are 10 other players out there making multiple mistakes. O Neill, Hoolahan, Tettey, Redmond have all passed straight to the opposition several times. I don''t know who it was that passed the ball 30 yards backwards to their player when we were attacking but that was poor. Regardless of whether Russ should have done better in the lead up to the goal Olsson made a very poor clearance straight to their player. Easy to blame one player when he''s the scapegoat but seriously-have a look at all the other poor performances as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firststeps 0 Posted December 12, 2015 He''s the CAPTAIN, where''s his leadership!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kenneth 0 Posted December 12, 2015 I know he''s the captain but it''s not his fault his team mates cant do the basics like pass to a team mate. That''s got nothing to do with being a leader that is basic stuff that all players should do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,701 Posted December 12, 2015 "Iwan''s Big Toe" He gave the ball away cheaply resulting in the corner that Olsson failed to clear. Just saying.That''s how I saw it as well. Though Olsson and O''Neil should have done better from the corner. Is Bennett injured? I don''t get the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 309 Posted December 12, 2015 Martin has been much better in the second half and Darren Eadie just nailed it on Radio Norfolk. "He''s a good right back Chris." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,927 Posted December 12, 2015 [quote user="Iwans Big Toe"]Martin has been much better in the second half and Darren Eadie just nailed it on Radio Norfolk. "He''s a good right back Chris." [/quote] Belive you and I have agreed on this point before IBT. Decent RB, woeful CB. Proven again today. No doubt the "well he sees himself as a CB so he is a CB" brigade will be out in full force as usual though. This guy sees himself as a cat.... doesn''t make him a cat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kenneth 0 Posted December 12, 2015 That bloke does look like a cat to be fair. Russ was much better today at RB was a much better team performance in the second half. I think the back four for the second half will start the next game-think Wisdom has tweaked a hamstring anyway. Russ will play wherever the manager wants him to play wether it''s RB or CB-he does not dictate where he plays he will do what is best for the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted December 12, 2015 He''s not good enough at CB and not attacking enough as a RB.In January we need to invest in a CB and a more forward thinking RB, we have 3 now and none of them are consistent enough.Martin just gives the ball away to much and puts us in trouble, they scored as a result of unnecessarily giving the ball away and he almost did the same later on.To many stray balls given away to cheaply, and he wasn''t the only one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kenneth 0 Posted December 12, 2015 He was very good going forwards today. And try looking at Olsson for their goal-poor clearance straight to their player who crossed the ball for Lukaku to score. Several of our players gave the ball away more than Russ did today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted December 12, 2015 Different opinions I guess.....Olsson wouldn''t have been in that situation had Martin not given the ball away with a simple square pass to O''Neill. That stray pass then resulted in a needless corner and put us under pressure.Rudd saved his skin shortly after.Agree others gave the ball away as much but you can''t afford to do it in the wrong areas. By rights today Everton should have been out of sight by half time today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted December 12, 2015 Russell Martin is not a Premier League standard Centre Back - he''s a decent enough Right Back though.No surprise he looked rather short on confidence & composure today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,092 Posted December 12, 2015 AN will become a laughing stock if he continues to pick him at CB. Did better at full back, but we should have been 5-0 down at half time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 497 Posted December 12, 2015 AN picked Russell Martin at center back, Martin did not pick himself, after the break AN knew the mistake he made and things changed. Cannot fault Martin or Bennett second half.Think he should have changed Cameron after 70 mins or so.Good game and a fair result Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pliff 4 Posted December 13, 2015 Decent is not good enough in the EPL, we need better at CB, RB and a goal scoring midfielder but doubt we will get any of those from our take all give little in return board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted December 19, 2015 With the brickbats.......Well played. Thought he was one of our best today, and part of an excellent overall defensive display (esp. the first half). Great interview, which highlights how good AN is as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted December 19, 2015 Interview here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanQoNt1wKs&feature=youtu.beAlthough I''m a bit disappointed that it''s taken AN to realise this is his best back 4, what we have seen is that he is still learning and developing and we as fans need to give him that time because he''s got the talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kenneth 0 Posted December 19, 2015 Good interview by Russ-always speaks well. Excellent team performance today and the interview highlights the managers qualities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlyfendweller 0 Posted December 19, 2015 Yeah a good interview on radio Norfolk, he''s almost too honest at times.I liked the tettey comment ("horrible but effective") Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted December 19, 2015 [quote user="mrs miggins"]Interview here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanQoNt1wKs&feature=youtu.beAlthough I''m a bit disappointed that it''s taken AN to realise this is his best back 4, what we have seen is that he is still learning and developing and we as fans need to give him that time because he''s got the talent.[/quote]Pull the other one Mrs. Either I''ve missed AN spilling the beans about his "best defence" in a recent interview or you''re drawing an unjustified conclusion from the team selection today and the second half line up against Everton. There''s no evidence Bennett would have come on against Everton had Wisdom not been injured, and today''s selection might equally have been different had Wisdom been available. The jury''s out on how good you are at reading AN''s mind [:D]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted December 19, 2015 westcoastcanary wrote the following post at 19/12/2015 8:15 PM:The jury''s out on how good you are at reading AN''s mind.-------------------------------Perhaps it''s the other way round ;)I''m sure AN regularly updates the pinkun to read my latest words of wisdom...or in this case, words for Martin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites