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Whether it''s the wolf, Brady etc as I predicted a few weeks ago our dealings are turning into a disaster. Why does McNally never learn

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[quote user="Canary Dogg"]Whether it''s the wolf, Brady etc as I predicted a few weeks ago our dealings are turning into a disaster. Why does McNally never learn[/quote]

 

I''m going with he knows what he''s doing and you don''t.

 

 

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"Norwich going quietly about their business whilst Bruce sees fit to tell his local rag that we have made three bids and air his dirty linen in public.If Brady becomes unsettled by all this and asks to leave only one person is to blame."

Sounds to me as though Brady has already indicated he wants to stay in the Premiership, and any talk of a new deal is just Hull propaganda aimed at getting the price up.

We are the only party interested apparently. I wonder why?

Can''t blame Bruce for desperately trying to start an auction if he''s unable to persuade the lad to stay, but I doubt if he''ll succeed. If we are the only potential buyer in the market then the market price is what we are prepared to pay.

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I must admit it is starting to get frankly embarrassing if the offers that are reported are true. Makes us look like a tinpot club working on a shoestring budget.

FFS McNally, get it sorted and stop playing games.

as for the wolf, seems like he got fed and like the taste of the rich life and is out to screw every single penny from us.

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[quote user="Canarywayne"]I must admit it is starting to get frankly embarrassing if the offers that are reported are true. Makes us look like a tinpot club working on a shoestring budget. FFS McNally, get it sorted and stop playing games. as for the wolf, seems like he got fed and like the taste of the rich life and is out to screw every single penny from us.[/quote]

 

I''m going with he knows what he''s doing and despite the name change you still don''t.

 

 

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Really?

We are lumbered with wolfie unless we stump up the rest of his wages, and now it seems that we have to resort to penny pinching game playing to buy a proven premiership player who can play in 2 positions.

Are you still sure he knows what he is doing? He hasn''t made a decent decision since luring Lambert from col who, and it seems to me he is more concerned about his game playing than actually doing the best for the club.

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[quote user="Canarywayne"]Really? We are lumbered with wolfie unless we stump up the rest of his wages, and now it seems that we have to resort to penny pinching game playing to buy a proven premiership player who can play in 2 positions. Are you still sure he knows what he is doing? He hasn''t made a decent decision since luring Lambert from col who, and it seems to me he is more concerned about his game playing than actually doing the best for the club.[/quote]

 

In one simple paragraph you prove my point, thank-you.

 

 

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Has Steve Bruce really said that Hull paid £2.75m for Brady?!?....it begs the question why he paid that much for a Man United reserve in the first place!?.

boot''s on the other foot now Bruce ,we''re the Premier League club and we''ll bid what we like ,how we like, when we like...

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Afternoon Gents, Just thought I''d pop in with a view from the other side of the fence regarding Robbie Brady.

I think the place to start is with the lad himself. His junior career at United was as a winger. We had him for for two loan spells for a season and a half before buying him for a report £2.75m, by which time he had developed into a very good player and had proven that not only was he good going forward but he was also more than capable as a wing-back. It''s important to remember the lad grew up with us and with a raft of other Irish and United youngsters that we took on board.

Lets make no mistake, he is a very good player; he is a full international with over 13 caps and was probably our best player in the second half of last season.

I''m sure, like all our players, he was gutted to be relegated last season, and whilst I am certain he, like the rest of the squad, he is desperate to get back there, I promise you he will be loathed to leave HCFC. As for his price, well that is like saying how long is a piece of string. But the bottom line is wedon''t want to lose him and we most certainly do not need to sell him for financial reasons. With that in mind a price of £9m might on the face of it seem ridiculous, but when you understand the background it makes perfect sense; we simply do not want to sell. That being said every player has his price and if, as with Mings at Bournemouth, somebody offers daft money then we would have to look at it seriously. But it would be done with the consultation of the player and what he wants to do. You valuations, which started at less than what we paid for him are absurd, and if you were in our shoes you would surely think the same. The player has developed under us and the market has also moved on, as proven by Derby buying a player from us, who couldn''t hack it in the Premier League, for £5.75m.

As there are talks ongoing with him about a new contract, we all hope something can be sorted out and he resigns, but you never know in football. But one thing is for certain, Steve Bruce has the full support of the owners and they let him get on with running the club root and branch, so what he says in direct quotes is what will be.

Best of luck to you in the Premier League, you''re going to need it!! That''s no disrespect to you, it''s the same situation for any newly promoted Club. The deck is well and truly stacked against you, Watford and Bournemouth.

CTID

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[quote user="MancTiger"]he is desperate to get back there, I promise you he will be loathed to leave HCFC.[/quote]There you have it....."he is desperate to get back there".....which he can do NOW.Once Snoddy has a word in his ear, expect a transfer request. [;)] [:D]

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[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="MancTiger"]he is desperate to get back there, I promise you he will be loathed to leave HCFC.[/quote]There you have it....."he is desperate to get back there".....which he can do NOW.Once Snoddy has a word in his ear, expect a transfer request. [;)] [:D][/quote]

Was that the same Snoddy that jumped ship from you in an attempt to stay in the Premier League, and then ended up back in the Championship????

Yes, I''m sure he''ll listen to his counsel !!!

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[quote user="MancTiger"][quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="MancTiger"]he is desperate to get back there, I promise you he will be loathed to leave HCFC.[/quote]There you have it....."he is desperate to get back there".....which he can do NOW.Once Snoddy has a word in his ear, expect a transfer request. [;)] [:D][/quote]

Was that the same Snoddy that jumped ship from you in an attempt to stay in the Premier League, and then ended up back in the Championship????

Yes, I''m sure he''ll listen to his counsel !!![/quote]1. You wouldn''t have gone down if Snoddy hadn''t been injured.2. Brady will jump ship for exactly the same reason. All players want to play at the top level.

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To the Hull fan who has just seen Lappins post:

1 - You probably would''ve still gone down even with Snodders; we did.

2-Brady may still want to stay as some players want to help the club back up, a prime example being Bradley Johnson. However, if Brady wanted to stay I''m sure there wouldn''t be as much speculation as there is.

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You''re half right there. Snoddy was a loss, but not as big a loss as Diame, Chester and Jelavic. We were missing the core of our side for much of last season.

As for players leaving when relegated, well the truth is some do and some don''t. It will depend on how much he thinks you want him, which by what you are offering is not very much, and how confident he is we will get back to the top flight. But as I said before, as Nigel Pearson found to his cost, our owners are prepared under the correct circumstances, to be very stubborn in order to make a point.

(Pssssssssssssssst!!! I probably shouldn''t say this, but Robbie isn''t even the best Left Wing back at the Club........but don''t tell anyone!!)

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A good player, but still too much of a rough diamond to be worth anywhere near £7m. If anyone thinks Norwich should pay that kind of fee then they need their head tested.We shouldn''t be looking to pay a penny more than £3m, so McNally ought to walk away after a bid of that figure has been rejected.£3m is about right in the current market for someone who hasn''t really lived up to expectations.

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[quote user="93vintage"]A good player, but still too much of a rough diamond to be worth anywhere near £7m. If anyone thinks Norwich should pay that kind of fee then they need their head tested.We shouldn''t be looking to pay a penny more than £3m, so McNally ought to walk away after a bid of that figure has been rejected.£3m is about right in the current market for someone who hasn''t really lived up to expectations.[/quote]

I don''t think you fully appreciate how the market has moved on. You do know there is a MASSIVE TV deal coming in next year.

Not sure how you come to the conclusion Robbie Brady hasn''t lived upto expectations. I''m willing to bet you''ve never seen him play more than a couple of times and I''m not sure whose expectations you are talking about. If you mean United''s expectations then you are right, but then neither Norwich City nor Hull City are swimming in that pond!

As I''ve said if you, and more importantly your club''s management, think Brady is not worth more than £3m then I for one will be delighted because we won''t even talk things over with him until you start getting close to the quoted £9m. That price is there because we don''t want to sell him, not because we think we can get that much.

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I really don''t know enough about Brady, do I think he is a priority or will make us better equipped for the league, probably not. The money is crazy, we have key positions needing that investment.

I would be happy for hull to negotiate a new deal, as I do think we can get an impact player.

For me centre half, right back are priorities and an impact wide player who has actually done something. Brady has not set the world alight

I still hope the Celtic centre half is our number 1 target, the Spurs full back has gone quiet.

Not excited or have belief that this guy is going to be what we need. But an is the boss, would rather other positions were filled.

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[quote user="Pabs"]

I''m not saying we do a QPR and splash out on mercenaries, but a player like Brady, 23 years old with two good PL seasons under his belt is likely to cost between 5&7 million.

Keep bidding low for players and we are likely to be outbid...

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Nzonzi with one year to go on his contract left Stoke for £7m.

Do we want Brady or not? Low bids will just pi$$ off the selling club.

This reminds me of Donacster when he ran the club.

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[quote user="Display Name"]Pink''un now reporting Hull are holding out for £5 million for him. Twitter account @ubernorwichcity saying we''ll go back in with £4 million up front and £1m added if we avoid relegation.

Sounds like good business if true.[/quote]

£5m in total sounds right.

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[quote user="Indy"]

Are we going for this Dutch defender from Celtic? Or was that just press talk?[/quote]

As Celtic have bought a number of players and have only sold one to Sunderland then it seems that somebody has a deal organised for that centre back.

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[quote user="MancTiger"] Best of luck to you in the Premier League, you''re going to need it!! That''s no disrespect to you, it''s the same situation for any newly promoted Club. The deck is well and truly stacked against you, Watford and Bournemouth. CTID[/quote]

 

MancTiger, I''m sure you mean well with some of your comments, however, your input on this point comes across as a tiny bit patronizing. I''m sure you realize the history of Norwich City in the top division of English football dwarfs anything Hull has on their resume. What have you enjoyed in your history....four seasons in total, is it? We may have to be counseled by the big boys on the matter but advice from Hull ( are we a city or are we a tiger ), don''t make me laugh. 

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All this talk is fine, but the indications so far are that Brady hasn''t jumped at the chance to sign a new contract, as negotiations apparently began yesterday. It''s a gamble for Hull: if he does sign then £9m might be spouted, but no one will want to pay it and Hull keep their man.

If he doesn''t sign, however, the price won''t be anything like £9m and Bruce will stop calling our offers embarrassing (which they aren''t, given his current ''asset value''). This could be a useful signing, but by no means an essential one.

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[quote user="Donkey dangler"][quote user="Indy"]

Are we going for this Dutch defender from Celtic? Or was that just press talk?[/quote]

As Celtic have bought a number of players and have only sold one to Sunderland then it seems that somebody has a deal organised for that centre back.[/quote]

I''m hearing from a friend that Southampton have already made enquiries today after missing out on Alderwiereld.

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To be fair if Neil wants him then the club need to match the asking price and if Mings is sold for 8 million then I can understand Bruice getting a little narked with us.

If he''s a key player then get him in, if he''s a side player with a max valuation fine move on, but let''s start to sign some players, were 5 weeks away from kickoff!

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[quote user="YankeeCanary"]

[quote user="MancTiger"] Best of luck to you in the Premier League, you''re going to need it!! That''s no disrespect to you, it''s the same situation for any newly promoted Club. The deck is well and truly stacked against you, Watford and Bournemouth. CTID[/quote]

 

MancTiger, I''m sure you mean well with some of your comments, however, your input on this point comes across as a tiny bit patronizing. I''m sure you realize the history of Norwich City in the top division of English football dwarfs anything Hull has on their resume. What have you enjoyed in your history....four seasons in total, is it? We may have to be counseled by the big boys on the matter but advice from Hull ( are we a city or are we a tiger ), don''t make me laugh. 

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I didn''t read it as patronising at all - it''s a statement of opinion that newly promoted clubs have a tough time in the PL, which is hard to disagree with.  This has nothing to do with the respective history of Norwich or Hull as far as I can tell.  
Whatever we have achieved previously, and however many years we have spent in the top division, we are still a newly promoted club with a manager who hasn''t managed in the PL before.

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this does still all beg the question of what is the job we are wanting him to do, should we sign him?.....as i mentioned earlier, not good enough defensively to be a let back, not good enough going forward to be classed a winger.

Now unless we''re playing wing-backs next season (and even if we were ,I''d back Olsson do do a decent job at that), I dont see what we''re after in him?. I''d rather be spending the kind of money being touted on an out and out left winger ,if thats the position we''re trying to address,and if we''re want him as he would provide cover at left back too,similarly I''d rather we just but a specialist left back..... otherwise we may aswell continue with Johnson out there.

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