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not that I necessarily feel that the fee is charged in the fairest manner;   it does in my opinion provide good value for money compared to other PPV servcies;   thats not to say its not a wasteful or top heavy organisation that could be run more cost effectively

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[quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"][quote user="PurpleCanary"] All viewers and listeners should give thanks to the totally selfless efforts of such as the Murdoch family - who have had absolutely no axe to grind here - for their campaign. [/quote]

I hope that was typed with a grin - Fox/Sky have no self interest in this?!?[/quote]What do you think, Zipper?![;)] Actually more a cynical leer...[:@]

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[quote user="SwindonCanary"]For those not too keen on an android box (or no space for one) I''ve got this off eBay at £9:99p it works the same as an android box but on your computer[/quote]That''s maybe a handy way to set one up, with info provided.An advantage of using a PC is that you can stream around the house to different devices and update the software easily. I noticed one of the box vendors was charging £25 for software updates which really ought to be free.

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[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="morty"]Of course its illegal, but a lot of people square it away, as they see it as some kind of "faceless" crime.Even the BBC have given up trying to nab people for not having a license.[/quote]Perhaps soon to be academic. At last Britain has a Tory government with the gumption and backbone to end the highway robbery that is the BBC licence fee. All viewers and listeners should give thanks to the totally selfless efforts of such as the Murdoch family - who have had absolutely no axe to grind here - for their campaign. Which ranks with the movements to end slavery and give votes to women as one of the great moral crusades of western civilisation.[/quote]
My sarcasm detector goes up to eleven and this rates a nine point six.

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[quote user="Bor Bor Bor"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="morty"]Of course its illegal, but a lot of people square it away, as they see it as some kind of "faceless" crime.Even the BBC have given up trying to nab people for not having a license.[/quote]Perhaps soon to be academic. At last Britain has a Tory government with the gumption and backbone to end the highway robbery that is the BBC licence fee. All viewers and listeners should give thanks to the totally selfless efforts of such as the Murdoch family - who have had absolutely no axe to grind here - for their campaign. Which ranks with the movements to end slavery and give votes to women as one of the great moral crusades of western civilisation.[/quote]
My sarcasm detector goes up to eleven and this rates a nine point six.
[/quote]Damn. I knew I should have mentioned the media shareholdings of Tory MPs and thrown in an obscure hint about the influence of Bilderberg Group.

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[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="morty"]Of course its illegal, but a lot of people square it away, as they see it as some kind of "faceless" crime.Even the BBC have given up trying to nab people for not having a license.[/quote]At last Britain has a Tory government with the gumption and backbone to end the highway robbery that is the BBC licence fee.[/quote]

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[quote user="morty"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="morty"]Of course its illegal, but a lot of people square it away, as they see it as some kind of "faceless" crime.Even the BBC have given up trying to nab people for not having a license.[/quote]Perhaps soon to be academic. At last Britain has a Tory government with the gumption and backbone to end the highway robbery that is the BBC licence fee. All viewers and listeners should give thanks to the totally selfless efforts of such as the Murdoch family - who have had absolutely no axe to grind here - for their campaign. Which ranks with the movements to end slavery and give votes to women as one of the great moral crusades of western civilisation.[/quote]Personally, and there is genuinely no sarcasm here, I have no issue paying the licence fee, the BBC produces some of the best TV in the world.[/quote]''Spring Watch'' - and that''s only three weeks - the other seasons are a tad boring viewing wise -- NEXT!!

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Not quite sure of the degree of irony in much of the above, but I would still want to jump vigorously in defence of the BBC.

The existence of the Beeb has always seemed to divide opinions.

Whether it is the licence fee, the manner in which it is levied or how much it amounts to, or the fact of the corporation''s very existence that causes antagonism is sometimes somewhat difficult to ascertain.

The BBC often seems far more appreciated throughout the World than it does at home. It''s news service, whether it be television or radio, World News or World service, is usually recognised for it''s quality and it''s fair and accurate reporting. It''s status is something for us Brits to be proud of and it''s independence is envied by many.

A massive amount of it''s productions, from Top Gear through crime series and onto period dramas, are dollar earners from the four corners of the Globe and, even if this money does go directly into the Corporation''s coffers, much of it filters through to those involved in theses productions.

I am not sure if the Beeb''s very existence is unique throughout the World, but the fact that it is not reliant upon incessant advertising places it apart from the myriad of channels that have mushroomed in the past decade pumping out repeats (and therefore providing the BBC with more added income,) and movies punctuated by advert after advert.

I watched Game of Thrones last night and I am sure that for every ten minutes of action we got nearly that in adverts. You find yourself fast-forwarding out of frustration, and invariably get it wrong.

The BBC is a bargain compared with all other subscription television and the fact that no money goes into shareholder''s pockets naturally helps with cost-effectiveness.

Sky get money from subscriptions which make the Beeb''s licence fee pale into insignificance, they get money from advertising, they get money from selling on their sport, yet they still come up with a flagship nonentity of a channel like Sky 1. It gets better with Atlantic in fairness.

As a BBC apologist I would venture to suggest that the BBC is a valuable National Institution and, whilst not on the level of the Welfare State and the NHS, takes it''s place somewhere in equal distance between these and the English Premier League (? cannot insert a smiley.)

Critics will attack the principle of the licence fee, the perceived waste involved and the assumed "leftie" nature of the Corporation, but, to me at least, the thought of being a couch-potato without the Beeb is perfectly appalling. It is the sheet anchor of our viewing, it is always there and is as comforting and traditional as a pint of good old English real ale.

It might not be a case of "BBC for sport" any more, but the general quality is still there for all to appreciate.

"Sunday Morning Coming Round," J. Cash.

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[quote user="BroadstairsR"] I am sure that for every ten minutes of action we got nearly that in adverts. You find yourself fast-forwarding out of frustration, and invariably get it wrong.[/quote]The best thing about the BBC is that it is a haven from adverts. While it exists as it does there is never need to ever watch an advert - just flick over to one of the several BBC channels for a couple of minutes wehenever adverts appear.

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The companies who pay for the adverts end up putting the cost on to the price of the product, so we pay in the end, one way or another.

The TV licence fee @ c. £3 per week is a pittance for what we get in return, IMO.

Now back to sorting out my new Android box. Before Marr, I hasten to add.

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Anything the Daily Mail hates is ok by me. Long live the Beeb, especially the radio.

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[quote user="BroadstairsR"]The companies who pay for the adverts end up putting the cost on to the price of the product, so we pay in the end, one way or another.

The TV licence fee @ c. £3 per week is a pittance for what we get in return, IMO.

Now back to sorting out my new
Android box. Before Marr, I hasten to add.[/quote]Hows it going?

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Yellow Wall  "Broadstairs - I could not agree more with your last two posts.

Long live the Beeb!"

 

Thanks, I get the impression that there will be some controversy ahead though. The BBC is somewhat of a "Marmite" institution, I feel.

 

Anyhow, as I said, "Sunday Morning Coming Round."

 

Saturday is habitually heavy for me and I get up early on Sunday with the alcohol still flowing round my veins and the mls. still queuing up at the liver.

 

A good workout on the keyboard helps the process of resuscitation.

 

Beeb 3 Malcontents 0.

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More or less cracked it Morty and even watched some South American footie last night to experiment.

 

I am grateful you mentioned android tv in the first place. A good buy, which will pay for it''s self.

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[quote user="BroadstairsR"]

More or less cracked it Morty and even watched some South American footie last night to experiment.

 

I am grateful you mentioned android tv in the first place. A good buy, which will pay for it''s self.

[/quote]Ah good, glad its working out for you, it does take a bit of fannying to begin with, mainly because it comes loaded with so many different ways to watch things.I was watching Sky Sports on one of the mediums, then a mate recommended go to Kodi> Phoenix TV>Live sports and I found it much better.

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Well done broadstairs. I still struggle to get top quality images for sports but the access is immense

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Will this sort of box work if your broadband speed is 2-3 Mbps?

We occasionally rise to the dizzy heights of 4-5 Mbps but you can''t bank on it.

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Am going to get one of these, can anyone recommend a box that I will need or where to get it from as there is several options about, cheers

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[quote user="woostercanary"]Will this sort of box work if your broadband speed is 2-3 Mbps?

We occasionally rise to the dizzy heights of 4-5 Mbps but you can''t bank on it.[/quote]Without knowing for sure, I would say that is probably on the low side for streaming anything, to be honest.Found this online, but I would say 8-10 Mbps is more realistic.

Minimum speeds for standard content 2Mbps, HD content 3 - 5 Mbps.

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[quote user="JF"]Am going to get one of these, can anyone recommend a box that I will need or where to get it from as there is several options about, cheers[/quote]I bought the M8 box at £90 from here :-http://www.nanotvonline.co.uk/Mainly because its a friend of a friend, and I know I can ring him up if I get any problems, and he has a facebook page where he will keep people informed of system updates etc, and how to apply them.You can get similar boxes cheaper elsewhere, but to be honest, its not just the hardware, its what loaded software comes with it, that really makes the difference. Personally I would be wary of buying real cheap tat off Ebay that you would have no comeback or support for.

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Thanks morty I will have a look at that later

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[quote user="JF"]Thanks morty I will have a look at that later[/quote]Just to make it clear I''m not receiving some sort of commission here lol.Now I know a bit more about the boxes and the software I would be tempted to look at the M8 box on the link above, note the spec and loaded software, then match it elsewhere. Pretty sure I have seen virtually identical boxes on Amazon for £60. But, like I say, its the loaded software that makes the difference.

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I''m getting tempted, thing is I have the same problem as Wooster. Funnily enough I''ve just been looking at my package with Sky thinking £41 for the most basic package is far too much, particularly when most of the channels are available on free view. I have phone and broadband with Sky too and am going to call BT when my contract runs out in July which could give me the speeds I need for one of these here boxes.

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[quote user="FenwayFrank"]I''m getting tempted, thing is I have the same problem as Wooster. Funnily enough I''ve just been looking at my package with Sky thinking £41 for the most basic package is far too much, particularly when most of the channels are available on free view. I have phone and broadband with Sky too and am going to call BT when my contract runs out in July which could give me the speeds I need for one of these here boxes.[/quote]The prices for BT infinity are coming down all the time, if you''re not bothered about huge speeds there is a 17Mb deal for £7.50 a month.I haven''t fully decided if the Android box will replace my Sky box or not ( The Android is in my spare room) as, lets face it, Sky is the best.

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[quote user="BroadstairsR"]Not quite sure of the degree of irony in much of the above, but I would still want to jump vigorously in defence of the BBC.

The existence of the Beeb has always seemed to divide opinions.

Whether it is the licence fee, the manner in which it is levied or how much it amounts to, or the fact of the corporation''s very existence that causes antagonism is sometimes somewhat difficult to ascertain.

The BBC often seems far more appreciated throughout the World than it does at home. It''s news service, whether it be television or radio, World News or World service, is usually recognised for it''s quality and it''s fair and accurate reporting. It''s status is something for us Brits to be proud of and it''s independence is envied by many.

A massive amount of it''s productions, from Top Gear through crime series and onto period dramas, are dollar earners from the four corners of the Globe and, even if this money does go directly into the Corporation''s coffers, much of it filters through to those involved in theses productions.

I am not sure if the Beeb''s very existence is unique throughout the World, but the fact that it is not reliant upon incessant advertising places it apart from the myriad of channels that have mushroomed in the past decade pumping out repeats (and therefore providing the BBC with more added income,) and movies punctuated by advert after advert.

I watched Game of Thrones last night and I am sure that for every ten minutes of action we got nearly that in adverts. You find yourself fast-forwarding out of frustration, and invariably get it wrong.

The BBC is a bargain compared with all other subscription television and the fact that no money goes into shareholder''s pockets naturally helps with cost-effectiveness.

Sky get money from subscriptions which make the Beeb''s licence fee pale into insignificance, they get money from advertising, they get money from selling on their sport, yet they still come up with a flagship nonentity of a channel like Sky 1. It gets better with Atlantic in fairness.

As a BBC apologist I would venture to suggest that the BBC is a valuable National Institution and, whilst not on the level of the Welfare State and the NHS, takes it''s place somewhere in equal distance between these and the English Premier League (? cannot insert a smiley.) Critics will attack the principle of the licence fee, the perceived waste involved and the assumed "leftie" nature of the Corporation, but, to me at least, the thought of being a couch-potato without the Beeb is perfectly appalling. It is the sheet anchor of our viewing, it is always there and is as comforting and traditional as a pint of good old English real ale.

It might not be a case of "BBC for sport" any more, but the general quality is still there for all to appreciate.

"Sunday Morning Coming Round," J. Cash.[/quote]Bravo. A couple of points. The licence fee may not be the best way of funding the BBC, but most major western European countries have some kind of inescapable broadcasting tax. As for the BBC''s supposed left-wing bias, this is mainly put forward by those with a commercial or political axe to grind, and is a fantasy. If the BBC has an overall  "political" stance it is very much a conservative (with a lower-case) one of the maintenance of the status quo in terms of Britain being a capitalist society and a constitutional monarchy, with a formal role for religion, as opposed to being a republican parliamentary democracy, socialist and secular, or even just one or two of those three.

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Sky''s line rental charges, £16.40/month (or £196), are considerably higher than if you pay BT annually in advance (about£160).

Trouble is BT Infinity isn''t universally available and a BT Openreach engineer told me even if it is available in your area you have to be within 1km of your telephone exchange to benefit from it (we''re about 3km from our local exchange).

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