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Another spilt ball cost us the game. Ok, I know he made a great double save, but he was very much to blame for their goal.

He has cost us this year, just does seem to have the confidence he had in the past.

Most of the keepers playing at our place this season seem to be equal, to him and many of them a great deal better!

I will now put on my tin hat, as I know so many on this forum have a blind spot as far as he is concerned.

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It''s not a blind spot, it''s just a different opinion

Great saves in the 8th minute, could have done better for their goal

Our strikers could have done better with some of their shots in certain games, games, in which they also scored

There are not mant keepers who could have made the saves he did early yesterday

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Not a blind spot, he was excellent yesterday, yes he could have done better with the initial shot, but it was Martins mistake that gave them the shot, i think he has been playing with great confidence recently, but as we know any mistakes from the GK are costly.

Look at Rob Green today, the team in front of him were so poor and he let in 6, bet the QPR fans are blaming a few others first.

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I''m sure Ruddy now realizes that he should have pushed the ball sideways but he was not solely to blame for that goal - look at our defenders !

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Why is it that JR always gets the blame when we don''t get the result we want or expect.We have 11 players on the pitch at any one time plus 3 subs and at times during the game they all make mistakes - poor passes, poor crosses, glaring misses, poor headers, losing the ball, bad defending, ball watching, poor marking, weak tackles, cheap free kicks, etc etc etc.Many of these mistakes lead to goals for the opposition, letting the opposition back into a game or costing us a win.Yet poor old JR''s mistakes are always the most criticised - I reckon he''s won us at least 15 points this season & lost us no more than 6, and even then, it''s usually been someone elses mistake that has left him exposed..Give the guy a bit of credit.

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Strikers miss 10 sitters,score 90th minute winner Hero !! Keeper 10 worldies 90 th minute fumble Zero !!Sadly goes with the job but if the strikers put their chances away Ruddy''s few errors wouldn''t cost us !!

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I fully agree in the answers to my post, that a goal keepers errors are more easily highlighted .

But the facts remain he has not even been good enough at this level, let alone if we go up.

Would we ever have seen the past great goalkeepers at this club not holding the ball or at least push to the side out of harms way. Keelan was great at holding onto the ball, even Robert Green is.

This is Ruddy biggest fault.

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Making Plans

Surely by now you’ve realised that in general the amount of blame and subsequent scapegoating is directly correlated to the distance between the player in question and our goal line at kick off. I believe there is a mathematical formula to calculate the blame coefficient, I think it’s called Whittaker’s Law, which has recently been updated by those that apparently know about this sort of stuff and it is now either called Martin’s Law or Ruddy’s Law depending on the direction of the wind.

Occasionally, and it is only occasionally, the law becomes inverted, however certain ‘things’ have to be in alignment for this event to take place and it’s a bit like Halley’s Comet, it is only apparent every 75 years or so, so you may not be lucky enough to experience this phenomenon within your lifetime.

I hope this helps answer your question??

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Interesting stuff Ray. Are you able to explain how for some posters on here, Whittaker''s Law is applied in reverse to become Hooper''s Law (jaemae), or sporadically Grabban''s Law (too many to name)?

And comparing Ruddy to Keelan isn''t fair - for one, KK was peerless, and secondly, conditions, particularly ball construction, are very different today.

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Nuff said,

I can only assume this has something to do with the amount of tint on their glasses, must admit I forgot to consider this aspect, I suppose there may also be a correlation between scapegoating and the number (and abv) of beers consumed over time. In fact the more I think about it ''the meaning of life'' maybe easier to fathom.

That said Whittaker''s law must exist in some form because it appears to be a constant. Maybe it''s like pye, a constant and never ending. In fact the more I think about it pye must apply somehow, it is after all 22 (players) divided by 7 (scapegoats)??

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Maybe we should wind the clock back and see what the final result would''ve been had Ruddy not saved those two shots early on?

You cannot take one case in isolation with a keeper, footballers don''t have an built-in ability of using hindsight in their favour - they live in the moment and are judged by their abilities in that moments split second.

So judge on that that split second how they performed, not on a 60 second analysis based on video replays and a huge sprinkling of hindsight thrown in.

It could just be that Ruddy is the reason we''re going in to the second leg all even, and not a goal or two down.

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Ruddy should have done better with the goal and has not had a brilliant season.That said, he saved us with the earlier double save so for me that cancels out the minor error that contributed to the goal. When you watch it again it was very unlucky because when he gets his foot to that ball it could have gone anywhere but happened to go straight to Anderson.

The goal was a shambles all round really. Dreadful header from Martin, then poor closing down allowing Sears to shoot, then Ruddy should have held the shot and then the bad luck of the ball going straight to Anderson''s foot.

We should, however, take heart from the fact that is the only way they appear to be able to score against us. Their other good chance only came because Martin made an even worse mistake. Cut those mistakes out and we will go through.

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[quote user="Nuff Said"]Interesting stuff Ray. Are you able to explain how

for some posters on here, Whittaker''s Law is applied in reverse to become

Hooper''s Law (jaemae), or sporadically Grabban''s Law (too many to name)?

[/quote]
 
That is easily explained by Doherty''s Law where the scapegoat is decided before kick off and all errors will be traced back to originate with him.
 
 
Of course this is different to the Muvvarin Law as applied by my old buddy Jim Smith where everyone gets a turn at being moaned about...
 
 

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The time to assess him is not now, but in 2 weeks time. We need to get behind them all now as we can''t change what we have. I think whatever league we''re in we would need changes right round the team apart from centre mid really. We need more effective or clinical (well rounded) strikers and a more solid defence.

I''d apportion more of the blame to Russell Martin for the goal on Saturday anyway.

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]
[quote user="Nuff Said"]Interesting stuff Ray. Are you able to explain how

for some posters on here, Whittaker''s Law is applied in reverse to become

Hooper''s Law (jaemae), or sporadically Grabban''s Law (too many to name)?

[/quote]
 
That is easily explained by Doherty''s Law where the scapegoat is decided before kick off and all errors will be traced back to originate with him.
 
 
Of course this is different to the Muvvarin Law as applied by my old buddy Jim Smith where everyone gets a turn at being moaned about...
 
 
[/quote]

Nutty - or perhaps I just comment on the players who have a bad game when they have a bad game. I don''t subscribe to the theory that you cannot ever point out when one of your players is costing you goals. Ruddy, Martin and Whitaker have all had poor spells this season. Johnson has been great so i''ve not had cause to moan about him for some time although I never actually moaned much about Johnson personally more that i don;t believe that Johnson and Howson as the central midfield 2 in a 4-4-2 works and I still hold that view because I feel Tettey is our most important player and should play alongside one of them. Johnson''s emergence as a left midfielder has of course enabled all 3 to play together which i didn''t see coming previously.

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Martin''s heading was terrible all game. I wouldn''t be surprised to see if two thirds of his headers went to Ipswich players. However it''s a team game and that''s not necessarily all Martin''s fault.

I see a quote from Alex Neil saying they worked on being in the right position to clear and clearly Martin wasn''t as he wasn''t getting enough power on his headers to clear. This has always been a gripe of mine from him as a central defender as he doesn''t position himself behind the ball to head clear, he gets himself too much under the ball.

However, we weren''t winning many second balls so you could argue that if Martin is at least managing to win the header, the rest need to win the second ball.

I don''t think you can bring the result down to any one player. The shot at Ruddy was hard which caused to spill. Every player in that area (Norwich and Ipswich) should be gambling on the fact that he does spill it, and he even manages to get up and clear with his feet and is unfortunate it fell to an Ipswich player that wasn''t closed down.

It is rarely down to one player that a goal is conceded as it is a team game and a catalogue of errors.

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[quote user="Bradwell canary"]Another spilt ball cost us the game. Ok, I know he made a great double save, but he was very much to blame for their goal.

He has cost us this year, just does seem to have the confidence he had in the past.

Most of the keepers playing at our place this season seem to be equal, to him and many of them a great deal better!

I will now put on my tin hat, as I know so many on this forum have a blind spot as far as he is concerned.[/quote]

 

Cant blame the keeper. He is as good as they come in the Champs. Easy target. Saved us many times this season.

 

I would rather have JR between the sticks anytime over a number of the keepers around.

 

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Never been a fan of Ruddy. He even lost his place in the England sqaud. I think if we lose Saturday and its down to his spilt balls he should be shipped out at the end of the season and bring Rudd in. We have a good keeper in Rudd and I fear we will lose him if he doesn''t get played.

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It''s no secret. Ruddy isn''t the best catcher of the ball.

Does get beaten too easily from 25 yards+

But one on one and close range shots he''s up there with the best for sure

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Since his injury Ruddy does seem to have one mistake a game in him. Unfortunately goalkeeping mistakes can be costly.

Having said that, if all of our outfield players (or any other team for that matter) had just one mistake a game in them we''d be playing in Europe.

As one of the other posters said, a striker can miss 10 shots then score the winning goal and he''s a hero, but woe betide any keeper who makes 10 brilliant saves then lets in the decisive goal.

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Sooty, that''s part of what makes players specialists in certain positions though.

You need good concentration to play at the back. Whilst it can''t hurt to have it going forward, it''s not as essential.

There are attributes such as pace and anticipation that are more suited to strikers. I''d happily have an error prone forward in the side if he had great attributes elsewhere but the same can''t be said for a keeper or defender.

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To say he has cost us is largely unfair, he has made some great saves that have not only won us points but helped the team on the run that saw us narrowly miss out on automatic promotion. I can think of Cardiff, Brentford & the Ipswich league (Carrow Road) meeting where he made crucial saves which could have changed the results of those games entirely just off the top of my head.

On Saturday it was a collection of errors as others have correctly pointed out that led to the goal. Martin''s header was poor, he could have put it anywhere other than at Freddie Sears feet! Then Ruddy possibly could have done better with the shot, especially considering the shot he held at Carrow Road from Sears which was far more venomous. But there was an element of luck (or lack of in our case) about how the goal was conceded.

I would expect Ruddy to not be happy with his part in it, but again if he hadn''t made that double save things could have been much more different & we could be looking at overcoming a deficit at Home rather than being level pegging.

On Saturday, Martin did have a poor game, if you watch the highlights, the double save was also a result of a another poor Martin clearance. But it is a team game & Ruddy bailed him out with the saves. On another day, Martin or Olsson might have cleared the ball after Ruddy had spilled it, but alas on this occasion they did not, but that''s football. It''s a game of fine margins & if it wasn''t for defensive lapses, you would hardly see any goals, you just hope it''s your team that benefits from them not the other way around.

To summarise, I wouldn''t change Ruddy for another keeper in this league, I''m very happy for him to remain our No.1 even if we are promoted.

On to Saturday now where the team will need our full support, every single one of them! OTBC!

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He''s a quality keeper at this level and more than decent in the league above. Shot stopping is excellent, very good in one on one situations and usually dominates in the air. He does have a bit of a weakness with spilling shots out in front of him and his kicking could be better but of course nobody is perfect.

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Yes, The Daily Star ( I know a terrible paper) reports that should Cech leave then Chelsea will look to Ruddy. Though the Express say Robert Green. Either to sit on the bench of course.

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Take the money and let him go. ..his gaffs now outweighs his good works imo.

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From a career perspective, I thought it somewhat strange that Ruddy didn''t take the opportunity to move to Chelsea a year ago, assuming that there was something to this beyond paper talk. Frankly, should we fail over the next week, his moving on will be the least of our worries; it will the need to reduce our wage bill, and that means the likes of Hooper, Redmond, Bassong, Howson, Olsson, about which we should really worry.

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