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Making Plans, August 6, 2005 in Main Discussion - Norwich City
Worthy spouting the same script on the radio again. Hard working. Good performance. Good passing...where was that then?
We need to beat teams like these, especially at home. As I''ve mentioned on another message board, 2 seasons ago Carrow Road was a fortress - remember the 100% record going into November? I know we got a point, but it feels like a loss - Coventry dominated for long periods - I guess that just shows the expectation levels.
And ncfc4prem, I agree - the way I see it, we have no midfield, and playing a defender in there just shows desperation and incompetance.
What I witnessed this afternoon was verging on depressing
A complete lack of quality in midfield plus alack of service to Hucks left us huffing and puffing and playing the game that Coventry wanted us to play.
As for the substitutions, I give up. Why not Brennan on on the left, and move Hucks to the right and keep waht width we did have so that we at least had an opportunity to break them down.
Oh, I nearly forgot the masterstroke of bringing a player on with 4 minutes to go
Socks need pulling up on the pitch after today''s performance. Apart from Ashton''s goal, McKenzie''s near miss and a couple of hits on the bar, no other shots were made. Midfield is a shambles and why the hell is Doherty in over Shackell?
[quote]Socks need pulling up on the pitch after today''s performance. Apart from Ashton''s goal, McKenzie''s near miss and a couple of hits on the bar, no other shots were made. Midfield is a shambles and why...[/quote]
Time to ditch Flem IMO and try Doc/Shacks or Colin/Shacks in defence on Tuesday night.
But of course, we know this won''t happen.
[quote]Hmmm. First match''s are always strange. I feel a long, hard season ahead of us. We ain''t gunna walk it.[/quote]
I think the above quote by "shrub" says it all! this is going to be a very long and hard worked season, and any one who things otherwise should go and support chelsea.
There are going to be results like todays all through the season, and once again the reliance on hucks and ashton is eventually going to take its tall.
One down FORTY FIVE to go!!!!!!
One wrong result and here they go!. Its a marathon not a sprint this league, as you scurvy dogs should know all too well.
I''m all for Captain Worthy and his gallant crew, and he''s premiership bound I tell ye, the man has a keen eye for the fight and we must back him.......to the hilt.
And I''ll keelhaul the next swab who puts him down!.
It''s the first game of the season and we played 5 or 6 new signings.
It''s going to take time for the team to gel thats why there was no real cohesion, give it time, with a few more games under their belt the performances will begin to pick up!!
I agree Deano,
In this league there will always be dodgy results (witness Palace yesterday). Given we played with a defender and 2 new boys in midfield the result is not entirely unexpected. Now I know there should be arguments to cover this (more midfielders, earlier signings etc etc) this is bad luck. Arguably our first choice central pair were injured and another potential candidate was sold a couple of days ago. We will improve and adapt and be up there...(insert cheesy "one swallow doesn''t make a summer" type line as desired)
[quote]Time to ditch Flem IMO and try Doc/Shacks or Colin/Shacks in defence on Tuesday night. But of course, we know this won''t happen.[/quote]
Yep, we''re doomed.
Two points lost and only 135 points left to play for.
And let''s face it, things never change from the first day of the season, like when we lost 4-0 to Millwall in ''01 and ended up getting to the play-off final...
The management have not learnt much from last season have they. Same old rubbish, same useless midfield, same unfathomable team selection and use of subs. Surely its time the coaching staff and Worthington were told to get it right or else.
Well negative Nigel has told the fans this was the wake up call it won''t be easy this season. Well with Worthington in charge it won''t be easy;where was Shackell our best defender at the end of last season, why play Huckerby wide on the left when he so much more effective playing through the middle, why are we so predictable - high ball to Ashton, why do we only play two midfielders Huckerby is not a midfielder. If Jarret is not fully fit why only give him four minutes surely he is more likely to damage his hamstring again with such a short run out.
We are in desperate need of new ideas in the coaching department if we are to make progress. I was totally dejected leaving the ground today oh any comments on the referee perhaps the worst we have seen.
Agreed Deano. We drew 1-1 (I think?) with Coventry at home in our title winning season, who says this game is a disaster? If we dont beat crewe then maybe!
Its not as if any of our main rivals for this season won (Although Leeds look as though they going to take the 3 points)
What does baffle me is we agreed to swap the games over so we didnt have to play the game in a neutral stadium. Surely one home and one neutral is better than one home and one away? Is it just a case of us being too nice again? Or am I just annoyed that I had made plans for this weekend and had to miss the game as I thought we would be away! BAH!
The season is a marathon not a sprint, but the first game was very disappointing. At least we know the central pairing will chnage when jarrett & safri are fit.
However, there is no excuse for the defence who look awful. Where is the Shack? Where is the love?
Worthy: sort your substitutions out - they''re dreadful.
Roll on tuesday so we can get a win - ashton must score past his old club.
[quote]So, Flemmo was the problem was he? Were you at the game? If you were, you would not be having a go at Flemmo, but would realise what a truly awful player Doherty is.[/quote]
Dicky, I love the way you respond to the knee-jerk, blinkered Flem-haters with some knee-jerk, blinkered Doc-hating.
Two wrongs don''t make a right!
Flem has had 39 consecutive competitive games to get his positioning and tackling right, the Doc has only had a handful. No, he has NOT played particularly well, but give him a bit more time. I am sure he will turn out to be a valuable player for us.
[quote]Dicky, I love the way you respond to the knee-jerk, blinkered Flem-haters with some knee-jerk, blinkered Doc-hating. Two wrongs don''t make a right! Flem has had 39 consecutive competitive games to g...[/quote]
Sorry, but Doherty is awful. How many fowls did he give away in dangerous areas? Spurs fans we bumped into at Victoria before the Fulham game told us he is the worst player they have witnessed in a Spurs shirt (and there has been some stiff competition).
By the way "Ginger Pele" is a p!ss take, in case you had not realised.
Didn''t go to the game, so I can''t comment. But I know a few Spurs fans, and the more intelligent ones told me not to believe all the nonsense about Doc, that he was awesome for them for a while, and had the makings of a quality defender.
He definitely needs to improve, but don''t all our players?
I am just aware that careers can be made or broken by the way the fans treat the players - if Doherty has the makings of a great player, let''s allow him to do that here rather than ship him out and replace him with someone who may struggle too.
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