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I like to find I''m not the only one that gives Malky more credit... His achievements before this season were great and no matter what you think of McNally, he''s no Vincent Tan. For me, it''s not just about Hughton being "too defensive", but more to do with all things considered... And it''s probably nearer to him not getting the balance right to justify his so called tighter defense. He''s so poor for our club... He''s dragging us down... IMO: worst manager in the league so I''d happily give just about anyone a crack at it... We need survival not only for money, but also to keep best players and attract decent manager to replace Clueless one.... Lets just hope it''s not already gone past the point of being too late to replace him

Lol ... Hughton is only slightly better at managing (33%*) than I am at guessing football results (9/28 32.1%)!! And I''m rubbish! ;-) * = 9 points from 27 from the 6 teams to currently feature below us in the league and/or form table

And look how close I was to the Newcastle v Spurs game lol

Yeah it''s not bad going... Makes a pleasant change for other results to give us break

Thanks crazy8 ... You''re welcome :-) how very kind to comment

So from the last 28 results... There are some good calls from these 9 I got right ;-) ... Liverpool drawing with West Brom. Arsenal beating Fulham. Everton beating Villa. Southampton beating Palace. Sunderland beating Newcastle. Chelsea beating Newcastle. Swansea beating Cardiff. West Ham beating us. Stoke drawing with Swansea.

This is, I hope, a spelling and typo free version now... I''ve changed my mind... You are going to have to put up with a progress report after every round of fixtures. The way I see it is: I''m not forcing you to read it. If you tend to not like my posts like this... Don''t read them. Quite simple really... And if you read it and cant think of any positive counter arguments or don''t like what I''ve said... If you have nothing nice to say then best not to speak is more than just a fortune cookie... It''s my birthday next Saturday... I''m starting to think the Spurs game being moved was a gift now lol. Anyway... This is how I see it (regarding why I go on about my predictions): when I made my predictions for the next 10 games (before the Cardiff game), I did so with depleated faith in City under Hughton. Then, to see if I thought we could do enough for survival if we lost the last 5 games, I gave us 0 points... The resulting table gave me an injection of hope.... (when points are equal, it goes to GD at the time) 1: Man C (91) 2: Chelsea (87) 3: Arsenal (83) 4: Spurs (75) ------------------- 5: Man U (74) 6: Liverpool (72) 7: Everton (66) 8: Southampton (56) 9: Newcastle (52) 10: Swansea (41) 11: Hull (40) 12: Palace (37) 13: Norwich (36) 14: Sunderland (35) 15: Villa (34) 16: West Ham (34) 17: Cardiff (34) ----------------------- 18: Fulham (33) 19: West Brom (31) 20: Stoke (30) Any fan would bite the hand off anyone offering that table considering the scenario it arrives. So if you want survival, related to this scenario offered, you''d want my accuracy to be as close to perfect as possible ... Or/and my accuarcy to be off in such a way that benefits us... This is why I post this progress report... Over the last 28 results... I got just 9 (32.1%) correct. My first correct City result was the West Ham game.... A bloomin defeat. Here''s how my predictions hold out having (but 4 teams) played 3 fixtures.... The number after points shows how close I was for points over their results so far... 1: Man C (88 -3) 2: Chelsea (87 = ) 3: Arsenal (80 -3) 4: Spurs (77 +2) ---------------------- 5: Liverpool (76 +4) 6: Man U (70 -4) 7: Everton (65 -1) 8: Southampton (57 +1) 9: Newcastle (51 -1) 10: Hull (40 = ) 11: Palace (40 +3) 12: West Ham (39 +5) 13: Swansea (38 -3) 14: Cardiff (35 +1) 15: Villa (34 = ) 16: Sunderland (34 -1) 17: Stoke (34 +4) -------------------------- 18: Norwich (34 -2) 19: Fulham (33 = ) 20: West Brom (29 -2) This is why I dont want it to rely on GD or goals scored! We suck for goals! 1st season up we got maximum points against 3 teams. Under Hughton''s tenure: he has 3 cracks left at it... 1st season up we managed 11 points against the 3 relegated teams. Last season we managed 9. If we survive it could look set to be worse still.... We currently have 4 teams below us in the table: West Brom, Sunderland, Cardiff and Fulham. A good omen: out of them, only Sunderland are higher in the form table. But... From those 4 teams we have managed 5 points from 15... That''s 33% success.... We have 5 teams below us in the form table: Hull, Cardiff, Newcastle, West Brom then Fulham. From them 5 teams, we have 8 points from 24 ... Or 33% success.... We are currently still joint 2nd from last with Cardiff for goals scored thanks to Palace''s game being postponed. That makes our attacking ranking 18th, as it was 4 games ago. Only Stoke, Cardiff and Fulham have conceded more than us... But Stoke still has a better GD. Our defensive ranking is 16th, as it was 4 games ago but down a place since before Hammers game. We have won once in 13 games in all competitions. 4 games ago this was Hughton''s league stats (remember: if less wins, second best is more draws than defeats): W: 16/60 (26.66%) D: 19/60 (31.66%) L: 25/60 (41.66%) So now it''s... W: 16/64 (25%) D: 21/64 (32.81%) L: 27/64 (42.19%) 4 games ago, our goals per game was at 0.82 ... It''s now at 0.73. Our failed to score was at 36% ... It''s now at 42% We''ve scored more than once only 3 times all season. This all means: when you go to a Norwich game... You stand a 1 in 4 chance of seeing a win, only 58% chance of seeing us score and only 11.54% chance of seeing us score more than once! You may have heard (lol) Hughton''s made 63 substitutions and not one has a goal or an assist... A season record (EPL record?). So like I say... Everything is on the decline... Consider all that when mentioning we still have to face 3 of the 4 teams below us yet. Results wasn''t too bad for us this round. Hull lost to Southampton and Fulham lost to Liverpool. West Brom did get their point from Chelsea though. While Cardiff, Villa, Stoke and Swansea getting draws is what we would want, because we picked up 0 points, it does mean they all gain a point on us. Sunderland''s game being PP is a bonus as it keeps Man C from slipping up 3 points again and keeps Sunderland below us. Palace''s being PP is too as it delays their scoring. Next round of fixtures, 6 fellow bottom 11s face top 9s... So any points gained for them there would be a bad result (duh haha) ... If WBA v Fulham cant be a draw, would rather WBA won. If Cardiff v Hull can''t be a draw I would rather Hull won. I put us down for another defeat... How I''d love to be back to my wrong ways... Our form is DLDL. Spurs are on a run of LDWW coming into our game. Villa are on a run of WLLD and face Newcastle before we go to them. Stoke are on LWDD but face Man C then Arsenal before coming to us. Southampton are on DWDW and face West Ham, Liverpool then Palace before hosting us. Sunderland are on WWL and 3 of their 5 fixtures before ours is against top 9 teams. Swansea are on WLWD and again 3 of the 5 fixtures inbetween us are against top 9 teams. West Brom are on LDLD but only 1 game out of 6 before ours is against a top 9 team. Fulham are on LLDL and their run is tough: 4 out of 7 fixtures before ours is against top 9 teams. Absolutely nothing to worry about though, hey ;-)

I''ve changed my mind... You are going to have to put up with a progress report after every round of fixtures. The way I see it is: I''m not forcing you to read it. If you tend to not like my posts like this... Don''t read them. Quite simple really... And if you read it and cant think of any positive counter arguments or don''t like what I''ve said... If you have nothing nice to say then best not to speak is more than just a fortune cookie... It''s my birthday next Saturday... I''m starting to think the Spurs game being moved was a gift now lol. Anyway... This is how I see it (regarding why I go on about my predictions): when I made my predictions for the next 10 games (before the Cardiff game), I did so with depleated faith in City under Hughton. Then, to see if I thought we could do enough for survival if we lost the last 5 games, I gave us 0 points... The resulting table gave me an injection of hope.... (when points are equal, it goes to GD at the time) 1: Man C (91) 2: Chelsea (87) 3: Arsenal (83) 4: Spurs (75) ------------------- 5: Man U (74) 6: Liverpool (72) 7: Everton (66) 8: Southampton (56) 9: Newcastle (52) 10: Swansea (41) 11: Hull (40) 12: Palace (37) 13: Norwich (36) 14: Sunderland (35) 15: Villa (34) 16: West Ham (34) 17: Cardiff (34) ----------------------- 18: Fulham (33) 19: West Brom (31) 20: Stoke (30) Any fan would bite the hand off anyone offering that table considering the scenario it arrives. So if you want survival, related to this scenario offered, you''d want my accuracy to be as close to perfect as possible ... Or/and my accuarcy to be off in such a way that benefits us... This is why I post this progress report... Over the last 28 results... I got just 9 (32.1%) correct. My first correct City result was the West Ham game.... A bloomin defeat. Here''s how my predictions hold out having (but 4 teams) played 3 fixtures.... The number after points shows how close I was for points over their results so far... 1: Man C (88 -3) 2: Chelsea (87 = ) 3: Arsenal (80 -3) 4: Spurs (77 +2) ---------------------- 5: Liverpool (76 +4) 6: Man U (70 -4) 7: Everton (65 -1) 8: Southampton (57 +1) 9: Newcastle (51 -1) 10: Hull (40 = ) 11: Palace (40 +3) 12: West Ham (39 +5) 13: Swansea (38 -3) 14: Cardiff (35 +1) 15: Villa (34 = ) 16: Sunderland (34 -1) 17: Stoke (34 +4) -------------------------- 18: Norwich (34 -2) 19: Fulham (33 = ) 20: West Brom (29 -2) This is why I dont want it to rely on GD or goals scored! We suck for goals! 1st season up we got maximum points against 3 teams. Under Hughton''s tenure: he has 3 cracks left at it... 1st season up we managed 11 points against the 3 relegated teams. Last season we managed 9. If we survive it could look set to be worse still.... We currently have 4 teams below us in the table: West Brom, Sunderland, Cardiff and Fulham. A good omen: out of them, only Sunderland are higher in the form table. But... From those 4 teams we have managed 5 points from 15... That''s 33% success.... We have 5 teams below us in the form table: Hull, Cardiff, Newcastle, West Brom then Fulham. From them 5 teams, we have 8 points from 24 ... Or 33% success.... We are currently still joint 2nd from last with Cardiff for goals scored thanks to Palace''s game being postponed. That makes our attacking ranking 18th, as it was 4 games ago. Only Stoke, Cardiff and Fulham have conceded more than us... But Stoke still has a better GD. Our defensive ranking is 16th, as it was 4 games ago but down a place since before Hammers game. We have won once in 13 games in all competitions. 4 games ago this was Hughton''s league stats (remember: if less wins, second best is more draws than defeats): W: 16/60 (26.66%) D: 19/60 (31.66%) L: 25/60 (41.66%) So now it''s... W: 16/64 (25%) D: 21/64 (32.81%) L: 27/64 (42.19%) 4 games ago, our goals per game was at 0.82 ... It''s now at 0.73. Our failed to score was at 36% ... It''s now at 42% We''ve scored more than once only 3 times all season. This all means: when you go to a Norwich game... You stand a 1 in 4 chance of seeing a a win, only 58% of seeing us score and only 11.54% chance of seeing us score more than once! You may have heard (lol) Hughton''s made 63 substitutions and not one has a goal or an assist... A season record (EPL record?). So like I say... Everything is on the decline... Consider all that when mentioning we still have to face 3 of the 4 teams below us yet. Results wasn''t too bad for us this round. Hull lost to Southampton and Fulham lost to Liverpool. West Brom did get their point from Chelsea though. While Cardiff, Villa, Stoke and Swansea getting draws is what we would want, because we picked up 0 points, it does mean they all gain a point on us. Sunderland''s game being PP is a bonus as it keeps Man C from slipping up 3 points again and keeps Sunderland below us. Palace''s being PP is too as it delays their scoring. Next round of fixtures, 6 fellow bottom 11s face top 9s... So any points gained for them there would be a bad result (duh haha) ... If WBA v Fulham cant be a draw, would rather WBA won. If Cardiff v Hull can''t be a draw I would rather Hull won. I put us down for another defeat... How I''d love to be back to my wrong ways... Our form is DLDL. Spurs are on a run of LDWW coming into our game. Villa are on a run of WLLD and face Newcastle before we go to them. Stoke are on LWDD but face Man C then Arsenal before coming to us. Southampton are on DWDW and face West Ham, Liverpool then Palace before hosting us. Sunderland are on WWL and 3 of their 5 fixtures befour ours is against top 9 teams. Swansea are on WLWD and again 3 of the 5 fixtures inbetween us are against top 9 teams. West Brom are on LDLD but only 1 game out of 6 before ours is against a top 9 team. Fulham are on LLDL and their run is tough: 4 out of 7 fixtures before ours is against top 9 teams. Absolutely nothing to worry about though, hey ;-)

Lets hope so :-) Here''s 4 bad results to watch out for... Stoke beat Swansea Everton dont keep a clean sheet or worse still: dont win Man C slip up again to a bottom 11 club and fail to win Fulham avoids defeat.

How many of you boys gave us points against west ham? I didn''t... Lucky in away as we were already down 3 after the Cardiff game

In a discussion the other day, I was asked my high point and low point so far. For me it was the last 2 games... I was so sure we''d beat Cardiff and so sure we''d get thumped by City... My survival hopes have been like a yo yo haha The only result I got right Tuesday was ours :-( my first correct Norwich result and it''s a defeat :-( The win would have balanced out the Cardiff loss and we''d be +1 up on my final standings ;-)

Well yeah Yobocop... But A) my point is we should be much more capabable of ensuring as many teams as possible finish below us BECAUSE of our form, not irrespective of it. B) in season 1 of top flight we got 11 points from 18 from the 3 relegated teams. Last season we got 9. This season... Look at this... 5 teams below us in the as it stands form table. 16th Hull and 17th Newcastle are above us in the league. From them we have 4/12 points. 18th Cardiff 19th Fulham 20th WBA From them 3 teams we have 4/12 points. Total 8 from 24 ... Or 33% success From the 4 teams below us in the as it stands league table: We have managed 5 points from 15... Or 33% success everything but clean sheets (which counts for nothing without goals and wins) is on the decline... How can this be accaptable? I do think we''re stuck with him til we drop in bottom three... The point in it being too late to sack him may have already passed.... Survival is the only way we can keep good players and get good replacement. I still want him out asap mind... On my original predictions, the only 1 I got right was ours :-( ... Even got that wrong on revised predictions lol

I''ve always thought we''d stay up despite Hughton... But only because of other teams doing worse. And no matter what happens it''s gonns be tight. I''d much rather have (& think we should have now) a much tighter grip on our own survival....

Always take a draw over defeat obviously.... But i want a win to balance out the defeat to Cardiff. All things considered: a draw would not be a bad result but that dont mean i''ll be happy with it

I made mine 2 games ago... On guessing results but not goals 1: Man C 91 2: Chelsea 87 3: Arsenal 83 4: Spurs 75 ------------------ 5: Man U 74 6: Liverpool 72 7: Everton 66 8: Southampton 56 9: Newcastle 52 10: Swansea 41 11: Hull 40 12: Palace 37 13: Norwich 36 14: Sunderland 35 15: Villa 34 16: West Ham 34 17: Cardiff 34 --------------------- 18: Fulham 33 19: WBA 31 20: Stoke 30 Unfortunately.... Last 20 games, I got 7 right lol.... Meaning that going on my predictions, we''d finish "joint 18th" and would need better GD than Sunderland, Stoke and Fulham to survive

I had a look at the pup thread..... On my crappy slow phone it was hard work. Can you sum up what it''s about? I got: involves working together to pick good bets to place to raise money for charity? And going from there''s a league and you saying I could find your predictions (i couldnt btw) then also competition against each other for prediction accuracy? Anyway... I''ll post what I thought 2 games ago and now here (only an hour until no more internet :-( Us v hammers: I thought a narrow defeat for us. Now: still fear the same.... They''re doing better than I gave credit for. Actually.... As this is just about what I think now... I''m gonna say 1-1 Still think Man C will beat Sunderland. Hmm... 3-1 Still think Arsenal will beat Man U... Just be tighter than I thought... I''ll say 2-1 Still think Chelsea will thrash West Brom.... Lets go 4-0 I gave Fulham the surprise draw here.... But despite them doing it to United, Liverpool look way tougher.... 2-0 Liverpool I actually gave Palace the win over Everton (to factor realism of surprise results) .... Heck, lets stick with it: 2-1 win for Palace Spurs v Newcastle I said a draw... But now think Spurs win 3-0 Again, for realism: gave Hull the win over Southampton... Cant actually see it.... Lets go: 0-0 I said Stoke will draw with Swansea.... Lets go 2-2 I wished for Cardiff to beat Villa.... Out of spite: 1-0 win to Cardiff

Ok... I''ll mozy on over.... Bare in mind I made all my predictions 2 rounds ago :-)

They are :-) but like i explained, the whole reason I started the predictions was for woste case scenario... To see if I thought we''d do enough with the 10 games before for survival. And, again, like I said... My predictions for those games are made with my depleated faith in NCFC under Hughton... I used to be an eternal optimist regarding playing the big teams but now not so much.... Anything above 0 points and I''m more pleased than I expected. My credit runs out at midnight so ill check out this Rays Fumds thing when I have more time

A) i actually dont think we will get nothing... Just find it hard to hope for more than 1 or 2 points... B) money is a touchy subject for me as late... All wagers are off for me untill further notice :-)

"...anyone but Op read it all?" is mocking its length supposed to hurt me? Only that.... Anyone with 2 eyes can see its bloody gigantic lol at the end of the day... I wrote this to show exactly why I want Hughton out. I''ve done that. So far ive had mostly banter about it''s length, closely followed by some nice people complimenting my dedication and passion. As for the actual content, considering there''s so much of it, i''m a bit disapointed so far its just been seen as either an attack on happy clappers or means nothing because I thought we''d be thumped by Man City. I really dont care if people dont read it. I dont even care if you read it and hate it. But to dismiss it without even reading it..... Well I pity you. There''s nothing worse than pity. And God said ''are you sure you''ll remember all 14 commandments?

I too hate "real fans" mentality. Simple Jack: your name says it all

Why has no one highlighted I know that it''s not to be taken seriously... Or I still predict survival... Or the fact it''s just to be used as a yardstick for just one survival scenario.... Oh that''s right.... A lot of people suffer from "ignore things that contradict my pre-set opinions on someone"-syndrome. You keep mocking my predictions guys.... Considering my last latest post, all you''re doing is amusing me :-) And must ya quote the entire thing? Lol

Not-So-Mystic Mat''s progress report... Chapter 1: damn those pesky other results... As some may be aware... Along with others, I''ve made a hypothetical scenario to predict the rest of the season. To remind [;-)] you of the end result... Here''s how my "worste case scenario" (as in lose last 5) bottom 11 looks: Swansea (points: 41) Hull (40) Palace (37) NORWICH (36) Sunderland (35) Villa (34)* West Ham (34)* Cardiff (34)* Fulham (33) West Brom (31) Stoke (30) *= GD of 2 games ago Over the last 20 results... My success rate has been 35% lol but it gets worse... Just like I hinted to in my epic novel, the only other top 9 teams to play bottom 11s both (yes, both) drew their games. Fulham - Man U is nearly as freak of a result as ours IMO. The remaining 4 results were not draws either; meaning 2 teams gained 2 points on us while 2 teams lost 1 (my strongest thought regarding the fact other teams will be playing eachother at the end). So just like last round, we were screwed by other results. This is how my bottom 11 looks with those results in mind... Hull (44) Palace (40) West Ham (39) Swansea (38) Cardiff (37) Sunderland (34)* Stoke (34)* NORWICH (34)* Fulham (34)* Villa (33) West Brom (28) *= current GD So despite still buzzin from an awesome result... I''m still very much concerned.... Given our goal prowess, I don''t want it to have to rely on GD or goals scored! I had quite a big argument with an army of people telling me the tough run-in (the toughest) means nothing.... Not only does our consistant performance need to improve drastically, we need our luck in other results to turn too. Lets hope my accuracy improves... Should go without saying: Wouldn''t mind taking a knocking on our result predictions Oh and don''t worry... You wont have to put up with this after every game lol OTBC CTID POA SHO [Still Hughton Out ;-)]

43 points?? Yes please! So did I, city4eva haha.... I will have to copy and paste my table... Hang on a mo....

Tony Cottee Woz Ere: Another cretin with another cretinous post. A 0-0 draw at home, albeit against one of the big boys, and all of a sudden those who have criticised the manager for the vast amount of poor results and peformances this season were wrong to do so! Good stuff Crafty. A manager whose win ratio and goals per game ratio would have seen him sacked (and rightfully so) at any other club. Yes Mrs Miggins, we are the retards, one 0-0 draw surely proves that! Let''s forget about everything else that has gone on this season and concentrate solely on one result. Common sense. Yes!