!M.u.s.t.a.r.d_M.a.t.t.e.r.s!

[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]Derby are banging on the Brighton door, only a matter of time, but perhaps the manager of Brighton will affect the game with a sub or tactical switch or two.....oh! wait. It''s Clueless Chris in charge.[/quote] Clearly not as clueless as you!

Pre-Mackay Wigan had 16 points from 17 games. Mackay has added 12 points in 17 games. The squad value suggests a mid-table position would be reasonable. Let''s hope he is not out to impress the new 23 year-old Chairman come tomorrow.

[quote user="Tumbleweed"]The games will be tough as both are battling for survival, not mid table mediocrity. However they are down there for a reason after 34 games with half our points total and I have 100% confidence in AN getting the team set up correctly. Unlike the rather scratchy Hughton 10 game unbeaten run a couple of years back the team exudes an air of calm confidence right now, of knowing what they need to do and just doing it. In many ways this is the perfect game after the derby, the squad will still be buzzing, hopefully the stadium too, and a great chance to motor on against two teams who I fully expect to seek to squeeze the game tight, sit quite deep and nick something on the break. Of course there are never any guarantees, but I think it highly unlikely at the moment that the team will let it slip in these two games. And if they do, better against them than letting two promotion contenders steal a march on us.[/quote]Are you referring to that 22 point run from 19th position with 3 points to 7th position with 25 points in the PREMIER as ''rather scratchy''? A remarkable achievement under CH given - by your implication - that the team didn''t know what they needed to do.

[quote user="ron obvious"]And if you''re fond of a bit of financials, this is interesting: http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/norwich-city-east-of-sun-west-of-moon.html I wonder who this guy is??[/quote] Thanks Ron. Excellent piece by "Kieron" - the financials are clearly presented and analysed and even those ''not fond of a bit of the financials'' should find this of interest. I think we have two years at the most to return to the Premier and start to lose the ''yo yo'' club label (or as the Poles label it: ''wanka-wstanka'' - according to Wiki). The stress of it all!

[quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]Seems the Board are taking some flack for the Adams shambles.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdVDvFQx24Q[/quote]Can anyone identify the man in the green jacket talking to David McNally?The crowd seems to go quiet when he comes out the door at the end of the clip.

[quote user="T"]There really is some deeply ignorant and obnoxious people on here who should be really ashamed of their malicious comments and need to take a good hard look at themselves. They are clearly less than perfect themselves and in no position to criticise anyone.[/quote]Well said. Most of the "arguments" of the "terminally dim" - as City 1st might label them - are so full of holes, that anyone who even attempts to address them deserves an award for showing tolerance and stamina way beyond the call of duty.

[quote user="Bury Yellow"]I find it incredulous that some on here have praised the clown for taking the Toon back to the Prem and having a decent go with Brum. Look deeper and you will find he truly is a useless manager and yep worse than the Rodent. He trades on the nice guy image which I never will buy and has made a nice little earner on a massive con. His admirers must be Calderwood and Trollope. Now theres a couple of talented geezers. If Bury Town even breathed in the same air as those three I''d move to the Peoples Republic of Scotland. I thank you and bid you all a jolly good evening[/quote] In reply to Jenkins:Bury Yellow wrote the following post at 24/05/2014 7:11 PM: Well Jenkins I was a great fan of Hughton and thought if we had been kept him we would still be in the Prem and heading upwards and onwards.

[quote user="nutty nigel"]That was my first ever game and also the first ever game on MOTD. Have a look here : -   http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/923   But don''t watch King Kev too closely throughout[:$]     [/quote]I actually watched that clip a few weeks ago - you may well have posted it. Between the earlier research and the watching of the clip, I had not noted that this was the "McCaliog" match incident to which I referred earlier. Perhaps the memory is playing tricks and the incident wasn''t as significant as I recall. I''ve just watched it again. I do recall it was ''off the ball'' and the cameras may not have picked it up or it was lost in the editing. I had forgotten that Kev was responsible for the second goal. I shall do so again within the hour! I shall put it down to the pitch, a freak wind, a bobble ...............

Many thanks Purple and Nutty. Much appreciated. On the "McCalliog" bit, I forgot to add that - courtesy of the internet research of some months ago that I had filed and forgotten about - that the match could only have been Norwich v Sheffield Wednesday 11th March 1967.

It has been said many times that the great Kevin Keelan was eligible to play for England. Can anyone categorically confirm that to be the case and point me to a reputable source? If true, it was a travesty, of course, that he didn''t succeed. I asked because I was always under the impression - in my youth - that his birth in India precluded that. Also, I vaguely recall an incident with Jim McCalliog.  The latter had been hounding Keelan on a few occasions when trying to kick the ball upfield. He was "advised" to stop doing so by the great man. Can anyone add some details to that?

2 September 2014 - Fabio recalled to Italy squad for Netherlands friendly: http://www.football-italia.net/55380/quagliarella-recalled-italy Might get a cameo tonight (4 Sept. - starts at 7.45). Let''s hope so. Team details should be here later today: http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/323814/teams

Apologies for misleading everyone re. RVW appearances. I think your £60 is safe PC.

Has stayed on the subs bench in all 3 games

[quote user="lake district canary"][quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="lake district canary"]I only ever post as LDC now.[/quote]That simply isn''t true! You''ve been well and truly outed so just concede. It''s the only way you''ll ever have of regaining any credibility on this board.[/quote] Dear Lapps, have another look through the thread in the morning and think about it carefully - the "evidence" is flawed becuse there are bits missing from the thread that supposedly exposes Tao. That thread had four or five posters all trying to be me and having a good old time trying to confuse the issue as to which was the real me.  So, take it from me - and believe it or not I am an honest guy - NN may tell you I am genuine - and I do only post as LDC since I came back three years ago.   As for credibilty, that is really not my concern - most posters take threads/posts at face value - some of you on this thread should do the same. Goodnight. [/quote]This thread may help your defence LDC and help hone the skills of the budding Sherlocks. When combined with the current thread, the clues are all there!http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun/cs/forums/2/3074518/ShowPost.aspx#3074518At least one of your detractors has had his ''username'' compromised - of which he will be well aware - yet fails to mention it in this current thread, presumably preferring the safety of the pack rather than original thought.  

[quote user="Houston Canary"]So it''s about 30 nots, 1 only if, and 1 deluded twunt who''s goal seems to be mere survival even if it means plenty of no-shows and no change in the overall strategy of playing well followed by several sub-par performances. Plenty of teams have similar funding and produce a more entertaining show. Blaming it on money is weak. YYYAAAAAWWWWNNNN[/quote]The only team with a lower squad value than us and are higher in the table are Hull. Are they who you had in mind by "plenty?"Yeah, what''s money got to do with it. Bigger Yawn.

I have looked at the ''points per game''  achieved for both home and away matches for all the bottom 11 teams and further split them by ''against top half'' teams and ''against bottom half'' teams. I have then applied them to the remaining fixtures. This results in 7 teams in the mix gaining less than 40 points:West Brom 37Norwich 37Swansea 36Sunderland 38Palace 34Cardiff 32Fulham 30Sunderland is very interesting because they have achieved the highest success of all bottom 11 teams in ''away games aginst top half teams'' - at 1.6 PPG. Given that they have yet to play the stronger top half teams away - Liverpool, Spurs, Man City, Man U and Chelsea - it is most unlikely that they will maintain the 1.6 average. If they finish on 36 points they will have done very well imo. Against ''bottom half teams away'', they are poor - averaging 0.63 PPG. They need at least a draw. If they lose, it looks like curtains for them unless they improve their home form considerably.We average 1.7 PPG (let''s call it 2) at home against bottom half clubs. If we lose. it could signal curtains for us as we will have effectively thrown away 2 points and our goal difference is - well you know what it is like.That said, no one can predict the final outcome to the season. Some of you will recall the season when Palace had 4 games to play - with a game in hand over Oldham - and were 5 points ahead. Oldham won their final 3 games and Palace - despite picking up 4 points were relegated on goal difference: or the team which was leading by 5 points at the halfway stage against their main rivals but were 12 points behind at the finish.

See today''s Pink''un home pageTettey is not the first player to come out in support of the manager. He talks of CH''s passion and also the lack of leadership on the field. Would he, as capatin, galvanise the squad for the last 8 games or would a change have the opposite effect and upset the status quo?

22nd March 2014The buses have been parked at both ends for 85 minutes. The score is 0-0 and a small - very small - but vociferous minority, with extremely high-pitched voices are preparing for their 5pm demo. There is a lot of shuffling in the crowd by those who have p**sed their pants at the thought of impending relegation - and also by those who fear they might do likewise if they support the other demo by remaining in their seats until midnight.In a last-ditch attempt to salvage victory, CH has brought on 3 subs. in the 86 minute - a move that has surprised Mark Le Tissier somewhat but has paid off handsomely as a penalty is given. The incident is a little unclear as a lot of pushing and shoving was going on but something must have happened as 5 Norwich players found themselves on the ground. It seems that Becchio had pushed into Elmander who had pushed into Snodgrass and so on in their eagerness to take the only chance created so far. But who, if anybody, pushed Becchio is not the question. In the context of ''death before relegation'', POTS, Hall of Fame and a host of other factors, the question is:Who should take the penalty? The players are:RuddyWhittakerOlssonTetteyYoboJohnsonSnodgrassHoolahanElmanderRVWBecchioIt was a strange dream - a nightmare in some people''s eyes. Wiz was the ref. Waveney and Thorpe looked like 2 of the officials occasionally merging into one. The fourth official seemed to spend most of his time checking the soles of the supporters'' rather than the subs. and talking about plastic. I was pleading that my plasticity quotient was well within the limits and woke up just as the ball was kicked by.......... I don''t even know if it was a goal.

[quote user="Fuzzar"]Thank God. I actually had to talk to my family last night.[/quote]I tried but they were all on Facebook or Twitter or WhatsApp or simlar and, anyway, they all hide when I mention the Pink''Un messageboard (they won''t help me upload my avatar) - so it was F5 for me: repeatedly all night. Can move from a G to a G7 chord at lightning speed now. Well slightly faster. Don''t worry Vahid. [:D]From 3.30:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx00BCUqI7U 

  The ones with the least financial backing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_club_owners  

  Server error in ''forums/pinkun/cs''Application. The "JOKE" resource cannot be found. Please contact your adminstrator at Space City Houston. Houston....Houston.....Come in Houston Canary.... Come in... HOT CANARIES SUFFERING COLD TURKEY. SITE DOWN. JOKES DESPERATELY NEEDED............... Chris calling Houston. (I''ve got a very tough game on Saturday against a very, very, very good team. They''re  already blaming me for everything. Now this......Houston... Knock, knock.... anyone there?

[quote user="A Load of Squit"]Now we all know that he produced some lovely crops but did he really contribute to the successful harvest?OK, so he planted some seeds but with the good soil and beneficial weather conditions it would be easy to say that anyone could have managed that plot of land so I will, "anyone could have managed that plot of land".I sure there are many other examples of how this charlatan has managed to claim success after someone else has done all the hard work, we need the truth people. [/quote]Rumour has it that the forwards have been nibbling on the odd slice of mangel wurzel - (also known as the ''scarcity root''.) - in the final third. Can anyone confirm?

[quote user="can u sit down please"]Too true mate. Apparently there is such a strong sense of belief that they will. He seems to have united everyone. I really like Gus. Liked him as a player and a manager.[/quote] I like him myself but:Over the last 6 home matches, only Hull and Fulham have worst form than Sunderland.They have done well in their last 6 away matches BUT have a look at their remaining  5 away games to be played: Chelsea, Man U, Tottenham, Liverpool and, not least, US.

Tinged by a bit of nostalgia:My 5 are:1. Kevin Keelan2. Bill Punton3. Bryan Gunn4. Graham Paddon5. Martin Peters.......... apologies to Robert Fleck, Ron Davis and Grant Holt.

[quote user="Reggie Strayshun"][quote user="GenerationA47"]  But not quite ''in the same league'' as Fulham''s record against us since 1987, all leagues & cups... v City    W 11 D 4 L 0    (won 73%, lost 0%) [/quote]Bl**dy hell, A47. Is it really that bad ??!!The only thing you can say is that we''ve got to break the duck some time.[/quote] We did rather well against them in the old League Division 2 matches - hopefully not an omen!W10  D4  L5