Canary On The Wire

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Steve Foley is a talented skills coach and should be treated as such rather than tarred with the simpleton''s post-Worthington disdain

You''ll be on page 2. It''s so wet on here I should have brought my umbrella.

Statement of confidence and belief. Two things doubters lack.

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The wetting......oh the wetting

Well my colours are firmly nailed to the ''this''ll do and it''ll get us in the playoffs'' mast

Obviously we''re doomed. Some people on here are pathetic.

I know you don''t understand the first thing about football tactics to equate the number of strikers to goals scored.

You don''t know enough about Adams and his management style to label him a success or a failure. Let it be known now that none of you prophets are right or wrong. Get behind him and let''s find out.

RVW is technically superior to McCormack. If you''re so deluded by performance and form that you can''t see that then you probably need to reevaluate your footballing knowledge. The argument that he would score more goals in the Championship holds water due to the proof of the last season but I would back RVW to hit over 20 if we can get his confidence back and use him in the right way next year.

Of course they have to answer for it. But asking a winger, no matter how good he is, to get ''quality early crosses in'', is too much to ask no matter how talented he is. Failure of the system to get attacking players into areas where a good cross could be achieved is something I would highlight...and I really tried to see the good in Hughton. I even posted a thread stating my belief he''d keep us up after we lost to Southampton. But the facts to my mind are that he had no clear footballing philosophy other than to keep organised, collapse into two banks of four when not on the ball and to hit the channels when possession is recycled and hope it drops for an advancing midfielder/ forward dropping deep. Trouble is our midfielders weren''t advancing as they were told to track both runners therefore giving up their own opportunities to break and the forwards werent dropping into pockets of space as Elmander was in the channels as a wide target man for some reason unbeknownst to me other than Hughton maybe trying to give Hooper the flick ons from wide that he got from Samaras at Celtic and RVW/Hooper play off the last shoulder. So, the opportunities for wingers such as Snodgrass to cross from good positions were few and far between. That said when he was in a good position he took to o long to deliver/tried to do too much too often. So yes the blame should be proportionally attributed but do you see why I feel the tactical approach should harbour a larger portion of the blame?

As much as he isn''t beyond criticism LDC I can''t help but feel you don''t attribute enough weight to the argument that he, like many other players, was misused due to Hughton''s tactical ineptitude in terms of attacking movement. Snodgrass had next to no help in terms of creating overloads and neither were we fluid enough in midfield to get high, pin a team in for long periods, and allow him to be at his most effective. Yes, I agree he took too long to deliver crosses very often and tried to do too much, but you cannot isolate Snodgrass for blame because he was ''dominant''. He had to be. We had nine other outfielders largely shirking responsibility at every turn (other than Olsson and to an extent Redmond for whom the weight of defensive responsibility was too much too young). If you want a winger who can beat a man and deliver effective crosses every time he gets the ball, you go on and write the club a £20m cheque and we''ll go shopping. You don''t get that in our price range. Redmond doesn''t do that. Pilkington didn''t do that. But you get from Snodgrass die-hard commitment and dead ball ability up there with the best free kick takers in the league. Elliott Bennett is the one player who potentially could have ousted Snodgrass this season were he fit IMO. He''s not a bad set piece taker himself, he also works hard and tackles well. But his crossing is no more consistent than Snodgrass'' is anyway. P.S Crossing is the most inefficient method of scoring in football. Hughton''s rigidity preventing us pulling defenders out of position to find a pass through the defence 90% of the time is a bigger problem than whether Snodgrass likes to ballhog. Rant over.

You can take ages to paint a wall and still do a sh1t job of it.

Of course, PR dictates they have to make it seem like they care what the fans think. As long as you buy your drink and your half time pie and sit through the dross....

I highly doubt it. Would be the exact same type of spinelessness shown by Hughton when he subbed Becchio on. The fans don''t have a bloody clue. Plenty think they''d do better, and no doubt people will take great offence to this and tell me that they would have done better than our Board. Many people in football believe, whether through arrogance, astute observation or otherwise, that fans are largely clueless. Boards of Premier League clubs do not base footballing decisions on what the fans want.

I don''t see any evidence at all from less rigidity from Malky. Evaluations of their respective performances and decisions including emphasis on shape and organisation above potential dictation of play sells the Malky is Hughton card to me straight away. You can''t base an argument off what Malky might do in seasons to come. From what we''ve seen....no thanks. I''d get behind him, or whoever the new man is, but my colours are nailed firmly to the mast in that even if he does get us promoted he should not lead us in the Premier League.

The ''Norwich way'' (which doesn''t even exist) is not tiki taka. Tiki taka has been worked out in world football anyway. We don''t play it and we never have. Jesus

Hopefully you''ll get it into your small brain at some point jaemae. Stats are supporting articles for arguments not basis for them. I use stats a lot in my footballing arguments but as support for what I see happen on the pitch. You are the only one using the word ''passion'' which is not what I mean at all. Stop arguing against yourself and read a book

I form my footballing opinions by watching a lot of football. I then use statistical analysis to see how far my opinions are in line with the stats and adjust accordingly if I feel I''ve called it wrong. I will sometimes disagree with what the stats say and sometimes agree depending upon the situation. Forming arguments from stats alone is very underdeveloped.

I refer you to my previous statement....

Anyone trying to use one stat as a basis to judge one player''s ability against another needs to seriously re-evaluate their footballing knowledge and read a fookin book

I understand where you''re coming from.....but the title is ridiculous and also untrue.

I hope its You''re away from home against Wigan and you''re 2-1 down in the 70th minute. Their pacy wingers in a 4-2-3-1 keep getting beyond your full backs so you''re forced to sit deep and can''t break out. What do you do next? The Chris Hughton or Malky Mackay answer would be along the lines of ''keep compact and organised, wait til the opportunity arises to recycle possession; break and hit the channels''. I want to hear an answer that is creatively based around the idea of withdrawing a central midfielder for a pacy striker and going 4-4-2 diamond with one CM sitting and the other box to box, creating movement through the middle of the park and forcing their wingers onto the periphery by playing a quick passing game nice and narrow. Or something like that. Not sure Hughton, Mackay et al have the nous to implement it. Not sure I do and obviously it would have to be situation based and if I knew how to prepare / coach players for these scenarios i''d be employed as a manager instead of talking to you on here. Point is you need a creative attacking solution for when you''re on the back foot, no matter what league you''re in.

There once was a wizard who''d flop And flip and he just couldn''t stop He''s probably half dead He forgets what he''s said And his footballing brain ain''t much cop