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I just don’t care - the marketing moron who ever allowed NCFC to enter a contract that requires us to wear any strip other than yellow and green except on the very few occasions (Watford) where there is a clash should be fired. As Webber has said, it is all about fine margins, and yellow and green is our unique and iconic brand - you should not ever willingly throw that advantage away.... grrrrrrrr!

Oh dear. Well at least we’ll have Zimmermann and Godfrey back as our central pair now....

Yes agree with that - all the players are now on long contracts, I do not believe the club expects many of them to be here in 3 more years.

Yes Bolton were sold, we will have to see if they were also saved. And wow the administrator held nothing back in his criticism of Ken Anderson... “ The Trust were forced to constantly compromise their position in the face of circumstances and demands which were wholly unreasonable. This says much about their determination not to allow Eddie's beloved Bolton Wanderers to suffer any longer at the hands of Ken Anderson.”"Sadly, Mr Anderson has used his position as a secured creditor to hamper and frustrate any deal that did not benefit him or suit his purposes. Thankfully, with the assistance of the Trust and others, we were able to overcome this obstacle.”

Ownership by fans.... a utopian idea perhaps?v But here is another - the value of a team should not just be the revenue stream, as that revenue stream depends on the club and inherently the community behind the club. Therefore it is a Community Asset as well as a commercial asset, and one day, one government is going to pass a law to regulate and tax football as a result of it using / abusing this asset. Broadcasters in the US are regulated and taxed because they make use of such a Community Asset, and activists should be making a similar argument that the fabric of a society is just as much of an asset as broadcast spectrum is.

True. But the entire financing of football is an undercurrent to what happened up there, with a whole lot of specific to Bury issues I do not propose to comment about. The Football League “must do something about it” seems a reasonable comment, unfortunately they do not run the Premier League - for better or worse - so don’t have access to that money. Ultimately, this may be a matter requiring the government to pass additional legislation on company governance. You can’t force local supporters to attend games, or owners to pay fixed wages, but you can put more teeth into Financial Fair Play by having the government on your side to help enforce existing laws or clarify the existing laws to make sure that financial shenanigans are not rewarded, but punished. And yes the PL could set up a charity to help UK football, but they won’t because that isn’t their focus. Just like the NFL, MLB in the US, make more money is .... .... and no, i’m not expecting a Tory or a or Republican government to do anything to hold company boards to account for shady, or even illegal, activities.

Well, we are where we are. Hanley has provided evidence these first three games that he’s off the pace - physically and mentally - needed to be an effective CB in this league. So given that, is this a spell and he’ll get better, or is that it? If that is it, how do the team help him be more effective? Giving the captaincy to Krul or Godfrey might help a bit, let him focus on his own job, get our two FB’s to modify their style might help too. Or perhaps replace Trybull with Amadou or Tettey. Maybe we should play three at the back, maybe we should just play our regular back four a.s.a.p That’s what the manager gets paid to work out, all we can do is support the team and offer our insights to what we see happening on the pitch.

Yes, I hear you, but can you imagine what Man City will do to Hanley? Unless we accept it’s already lost or we play Amadou as a 3rd CB.

Fall off your bike, get back on it right away. If you wait and mull over it you might think twice. So, IMO, West Ham this weekend is ideal. Only a couple of players involved in the loss last night will be playing v West Ham anyway. 2-1 to City my prediction ... OTBC!

Yes, I hope they keep Zimmermann in cotton wool for the rest of the week. I suspect Hanley will play v West Ham with Amadou on the bench as backup and Zimmerman held back until after the international break to make sure he’s 100%. .

DCb, can you remind me who we signed this Summer? And then tell me if they had a good game?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/26/bury-britain-gigg-lane-brexit?

Great shame, and yet two clubs so close you would think someone would be suggesting amalgamation rather than oblivion for both.

A Chris Hughton result.

All true, but Ipswich are top of the league! Even City couldn't do that so soon when we were in L1 😂 Just proves that Lambert has still got it.

Yes the young man is doing well, has grown up mentally and physically it seems. And yesterday he got the goal we all wanted to see him get - no hanging back, instead a determined run into the six yard box to beat his covering defender and put the ball into the back of the net. He isn't James Morrison, but he is Todd Cantwell, and I look forward to seeing whet else he can bring.

Proud of the team today. You have to hold up your hand and say the better team won - certainly the more skillful collection of individual players won - our overall team performance was not enough to succeed. That's the way it is, we are a young team and we have some additional players we can integrate over the next few games that I hope will reduce some of the performance gaps. Overall I am very happy about what I'm seeing, and also very grateful that we are not following a "just don't concede 2" approach.

Recall last year that we had four points from the first five games, and several people were commenting that if we also lost to Ipswich, Farke was out? Changes were made and the season panned out OK didn't it? I'm sure Farke and his team see exactly what is going on, and we'll evolve from this line up over the next few games.

Sometimes you play as well as the opposition lets you ... we’ll be fine; not too many teams as good as Chelsea. (Liverpool, Man City, Spurs)

I almost agree, yes the defence was exposed to runners too often, and inserting Amadou I hope is the solution to that, but like it or not Hanley is showing why he is fourth choice CB. Too slow to react and especially too slow to turn or regain balance. I’m not knocking him, nor am i saying the club were wrong not to have signed another CB, after all in the 4 - 6 weeks we expect Klose and Zimmermann to miss, we had Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City, it maybe was a reasonable gamble to say let’s spend the money elsewhere or if necessary spend in January.

I thought Buendia also played very well, on the other side of the coin I still think we will see Fahrmann, Krull/Zimmermann and Amadou come into the team over the international break.

Not to scapegoat, as I was not surprised that the quality of Chelsea’s players would be the deciding factor if both teams played up to their capabilities, but Hanley and (lack of Hernandez) were NCFC’s “weakest links” for me today. A bit annoying that from a situation where we could have taken the lead through Pukki after we absorbed so much pressure in 2nd half, that we concede immediately from the counter attack. Still a decent performance against a top 6 team, on to West Ham ... OTBC.

It might have been questioned by them on one or two occasions, but I don’t recall it being a continuous thread over several months, and it was almost certainly never reported by any other journalists... or in opinion articles. .... interesting Belisia (sp?) is accused of the same habit... ....we lost TWO games from XMAS to seasons end for goodness sake....and of those lost or almost lost, only two games that I can recall (Derby and Reading) had a later winner or equalizer for the other team, while we had several .... so we clearly were not tired, or at least no more tired than the opposition were, at the end of the season.

For those that have moved from City / South to Barclay / River and vice versa, what drove your change - do you enjoy the game more from one perspective v’s the other?

One of our keepers , Keelan probably