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London hacks having nothing good to say about Villa. There''s a surprise!

Nursey is a Norwich fan, I believe. It was interesting how he couldn''t stop himself from throwing in the odd sly dig at Villa during the course of the conversation. He''ll not last along on that patch with that attitude!

That''s the spirit! It looks like Villa have done Norwich a huge, huge favour. Now, the question is has Hughton got the chops to manage one of the world''s biggest clubs? We''ll find out over the weeks and months ahead.

There''s a difference with Villa''s history and Liverpool''s. Villa are an older club and were a "giant" when Liverpool were scratching around as a second division club. Liverpool only had six trophies won in their first eighty years as a club,for example, and their "history" has come largely in the media era bubble of 1965-2005. Now that clubs have come along who can outbid Liverpool (a club that relied on media money to make itself successful) they are struggling. Forest have, indeed, won two European Cups (which is brilliant) but they haven''t won much else. They''re an old club, though, and certainly have great potential for a club from a small city. They are a fantastic role model for the Ipswich/Norwich/Southampton sized clubs of this world.

peter lansley ‏@LansleyTimes Paul Lambert walks out on #ncfc after bust up on being refused permission to talk to #avfc who will now look to appoint him as new manager

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[quote user="Gareth"][quote user="basil brush"]I still stand by what I said a few weeks back, in that Lambert had been tapped up by Villa - usually a third party. All this ''Villa expect to approach Norwich tomorrow'' is nonsense. It''s already happened! Why wait till tomorrow? Villa could be a whole load of trouble for Lambert and I wonder how long the fans would give him, but they have much more potential than us and would give him the ideal stepping stone to a top 6 club, who wouldn''t take a chance with him at this point. Best of luck if he does goes and a coup and a half for Villa if they have got him. Back to being little old Norwich, though were we ever anything else?[/quote]Then Norwich take Villa to court and sue them. Villa are already 120 million pounds in debt, a protracted legal battle is the last thing they want, and Norwich get a decent sum of money.[/quote] I don''t believe they are in that much debt. If they are they owe it to Lerner.

if the Europa League is within the capabilities of Norwich then competing in (and winning AGAIN) the Champiuons League is within the capabilities of Aston Villa. Now, I''m not sure what the future of PL is BUT there are an awful lot of people on here totally downplaying the size and potential of Villa. They are the major club of the UK''s Second City. They don''t have a sugardaddy yet have still been able to fork out £24 million for a striker. They are the fourth most successful football club in England (and were the MOST successful for seventy-odd years). To downplay all that history and potential and simply say Norwich are now a sideways step from Villa - as some have NCFC fans have said - is madness. PL might stay at Norwich for all sorts of reasons but that won''t make them a club anywhere near approaching Aston Villa. They created the world''s first football league and have spent 102 years in top flight footy...they''re an ever present in the Premier League. The limit of their ambition most certainly is not qualifying for the Europa League, that''s the minimum basic requirement for Villa.

[quote user="Ruddygore"]Since this has to be up for debate - Yes I''d be pissed off. Villa wouldn''t deserve Lambert, they''re not a "Bigger" club, the fans and the directors - chairman and all treat their managers like sh!t. I''d feel ever so slightly better if he had to go then he went to a decent club in Europe and eventually ended up at Man U.[/quote] I think people aren''t being realistic. If you''re saying Villa aren''t a "bigger" club then I don''t know what on earth they are. They''ve been awful this season, granted, but that is partly because they are shifting out higher wage earners whilst bedding in their youngsters. They finished ninth the season before this and were top six three years on the bounce before that...and even then their fans weren''t happy. Why weren''t they happy? They''ve a histroy that is very, very long and full of loads of major honours. Getting them into the top four and winning trophies again is a huge challenge that any manager would surely be tempted by it? Check their history out on Wiki and you''ll find it''s one of England''s major jobs - Villa were a huge club long before Man Utd started buying trophies. If Lerner is back in the mood to sanction spending any manager would want the job....if he is still in cutting back mode it would still be hugely temping to the likes of Lambert. Lambert has been visiting his good friend Stan Petrov over the past week...I''m pretty sure Stan will have been telling him all about Villa, its history and potential. We will have to wait and see, I suppose....

[quote user="Ruddygore"]Since this has to be up for debate - Yes I''d be pissed off. Villa wouldn''t deserve Lambert, they''re not a "Bigger" club, the fans and the directors - chairman and all treat their managers like sh!t. I''d feel ever so slightly better if he had to go then he went to a decent club in Europe and eventually ended up at Man U.[/quote] I think people aren''t being realistic. If you''re saying Villa aren''t a "bigger" club then I don''t know what on earth they are. They''ve been awful this season, granted, but that is partly because they are shifting out higher wage earners whilst bedding in their youngsters. They finished ninth the season before this and were top six three years on the bounce before that...and even then their fans weren''t happy. Why weren''t they happy? They''ve a histroy that is very, very long and full of loads of major honours. Getting them into the top four and winning trophies again is a huge challenge that any manager would surely be tempted by it? Check their history out on Wiki and you''ll find it''s one of England''s major jobs - Villa were a huge club long before Man Utd started buying trophies. If Lerner is back in the mood to sanction spending any manager would want the job....if he is still in cutting back mode it would still be hugely temping to the likes of Lambert. Lambert has been visiting his good friend Stan Petrov over the past week...I''m pretty sure Stan will have been telling him all about Villa, its history and potential. We will have to wait and see, I suppose....